Tome of Horrors?


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Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Companion, Pawns, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber

Haven't heard much about this coming out as a pathfinder compatible product since Paizo announced Pathfinder RPG. Anyone know anything new?

Sovereign Court

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

I have wondered the same thing.

Paizo Employee Franchise Manager

There was no real warning when the pdfs of the remaining Necromancer 3.5 adventures went on sale. I think Clark might just be keeping his hand close to his chest until things are really ready to announce. After the loud support for 4e turned out to be a lot of hype for nothing, he may be waiting until he's got sure things he can get people excited about. Of course, that's just my guess.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Companion, Pawns, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber

Still, I got my Bestiary, now I want my Tome of Horrors! :)

The Exchange Owner - D20 Hobbies

The Tomb books are 3.0 and/or 3.5 books.

By this are you saying they are currently being updated by S&S?

Is S&S = Necromancer Games?

Who is Clark?


James Risner wrote:

The Tomb books are 3.0 and/or 3.5 books.

By this are you saying they are currently being updated by S&S?

Is S&S = Necromancer Games?

Who is Clark?

S&S stands for Sword and Sorcery (It is the Dungeons and Dragons line run by White Wolf for 3.0/3.5). Necromancer Games published some books through them. Clark Peterson is one of the guys who owns Necromancer Games.

Dark Archive

On the necro boards things are still quiet about this. But I think it is less and less likely to happen. For the simple reason some of the ToH mobs have already appeared in AP's and bestiary already and likely more in the second one. Which paizo said in another thread has pretty much already been decided what mobs would be in it.

Now a ToH that takes the best monsters from all 3 volumes, that is not already covered by Paizo. I think is a lot more possible.

Dark Archive

Dark_Mistress wrote:

On the necro boards things are still quiet about this. But I think it is less and less likely to happen. For the simple reason some of the ToH mobs have already appeared in AP's and bestiary already and likely more in the second one. Which paizo said in another thread has pretty much already been decided what mobs would be in it.

Now a ToH that takes the best monsters from all 3 volumes, that is not already covered by Paizo. I think is a lot more possible.

That would be a worth the purchase as would a Pathfinder version of the Worst of Grimtooth.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

I'm afraid that Clark missed the boat on this one. First he supported the 4e, then the whole GSL debacle came about, but Necro waited patiently for the updated license.

After it arrived, they tried to start a "Classic 4e" line with old-school stuff updated to new rules. It became quickly apparent that the idea is going nowhere, as first few preview rules were ripped apart by 4e crunch specialists on Necro forums.

If Clark would devote all his energy spent on vocal 4e support and he would just get on to writing Pathfinder Tome of Horrors, he would have a massive hit on his hands. A great shame, since Necromancer used to be one of my favourite 3.5 3pps.

Sovereign Court

Already about a dozen monsters from ToH have found a spot in the first PRPG Bestiary. I'm sure that by the time Bestiary II comes out, there will be slim pickin's for a ToH PRPG book...


I would like to see a Pathfinder Tome of Horrors, but as someone earlier mentioned, kind of a "best of" compilation from all three Tomes. I do hope the best for Clark and Necro, but he needs to get on either the 4E or Pathfinder gravy train and ride it all the way, and soon.

Paizo Employee Franchise Manager

Since RPG design isn't Clark's primary career, it may also be the case that he is simply too busy or not motivated enough by the current market to dedicate the time to releasing anything else. The last three books to come out were pdf only and were basically completed long before then anyway (from what I understand). I'm sure we'll see Clark and Necro again in the future, but it doesn't look like RPG design is a huge priority for him at the moment.


Frog God Games must have purchased the series because in August 2011 they are releasing 'The Tome of Horrors Complete' a 1000 page massive hardcover with all the monsters from Volumes 1, 2 & 3 for the Pathfinder rules (and the same book is available separately using the rules for the Sword & Sorcery rpg..an old school circa 1974 D&D clone).

http://www.talesofthefroggod.com/index.php/products/the-tome-of-horrors

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure, Rulebook Subscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber

What an interesting time capsule. :)

Frog God Games

Sedric the Hero wrote:

Frog God Games must have purchased the series because in August 2011 they are releasing 'The Tome of Horrors Complete' a 1000 page massive hardcover with all the monsters from Volumes 1, 2 & 3 for the Pathfinder rules (and the same book is available separately using the rules for the Sword & Sorcery rpg..an old school circa 1974 D&D clone).

http://www.talesofthefroggod.com/index.php/products/the-tome-of-horrors

Frog God Games did not purchase the series.

Some facts for the folks who don't know.

Necromancer Games is owned by Clarke Peterson AND Bill Webb.

Frog God Games is owned by Bill Webb.

Tome of Horrors Complete is being put out as a Necromancer Games book through Frog God Games.

No rights were bought out, this isn't a secondary company glomming on the old successes. Clark is also involved in this endeavor as well (as he should be).

Necromancer Games has two successors: Frog God Games and Legendary Games.

Shadow Lodge

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FGG Chuck wrote:

Frog God Games did not purchase the series.

Some facts for the folks who don't know.

Necromancer Games is owned by Clarke Peterson AND Bill Webb.

Frog God Games is owned by Bill Webb.

Tome of Horrors Complete is being put out as a Necromancer Games book through Frog God Games.

No rights were bought out, this isn't a secondary company glomming on the old successes. Clark is also involved in this endeavor as well (as he should be).

Necromancer Games has two successors: Frog God Games and Legendary Games.

I always hate to see the marginalization of one person's contributions simply because another for some reason becomes more famous. Another couple of good examples would be Dave Arneson and everyone who ever worked at Marvel Comics that wasn't named Stan Lee.

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