Can you Vital Strike and Spring Attack?


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Can this be done, not done. If so why?

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insaneogeddon wrote:
Can this be done, not done. If so why?

Isn't it only a standard action to make a vital strike? If it says, "When you make an attack action," I believe it can apply to either a full attack or a single attack.

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Vital Strike (Combat)
You make a single attack that deals significantly more damage than normal.

Prerequisites: Base attack bonus +6.

Benefit: When you use the attack action, you can make one attack at your highest base attack bonus that deals additional damage. Roll the damage dice for the attack twice and add the results together, but do not multiply damage bonuses from Strength, weapon abilities (such as flaming), or precision-based damage (such as sneak attack). This bonus damage is not multiplied on a critical hit (although other damage bonuses are multiplied normally).

Spring Attack (Combat)
You can deftly move up to a foe, strike, and withdraw before he can react.

Prerequisites: Dex 13, Dodge, Mobility, base attack bonus +4.

Benefit: You can move up to your speed and make a single melee attack without provoking any attacks of opportunity from the target of your attack. You can move both before and after the attack, but you must move at least 10 feet before the attack and the total distance that you move cannot be greater than your speed. You cannot use this ability to attack a foe that is adjacent to you at the start of your turn.

Normal: You cannot move before and after an attack.

I don't see why not


Warforged Gardener wrote:
insaneogeddon wrote:
Can this be done, not done. If so why?
Isn't it only a standard action to make a vital strike? If it says, "When you make an attack action," I believe it can apply to either a full attack or a single attack.

Then again, an attack action is defined as a standard action. Also why you can't full attack with a vital strike. And Spring Attack requires a 'single melee attack' in between your move action. 'Melee attack' which falls under the subset of 'attack action'

Aand..the guy above me beat me to it.


Cheers. We had been playing as if they can combine. The straight fighter likes his full attack with power attack and one vital strike attack. I had heard some doubt so thought its best to check with the sages!

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insaneogeddon wrote:
Cheers. We had been playing as if they can combine. The straight fighter likes his full attack with power attack and one vital strike attack. I had heard some doubt so thought its best to check with the sages!

I'm not sure it was designed to work together, but there is compelling evidence it does. Don't be surprised if your DM doesn't allow them to be used together tho.

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