Anarchist Gamemaster Cookbook


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All I'm going to say is that if you have recently pre-ordered or thinking about pre-ordering anything, DO NOT DO IT. Period. Hold onto your money until something appears.

Right now, I can say that Lou is trying his best to get RC together to ensure that it will eventually get out. I have faith in Lou to step up to the plate.

I don't blame Ben for the irony, either. I'm fortunate that I didn't pre-order.

Dark Archive

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Yeah understandable. I did preorder RC and still have not asked for the money back. But at this point I won't preorder from Sinister again until I see them start putting out stuff in a timely manner. I love Nick's work and will still buy what he makes but at least for now i will wait until the products are out before buying.


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Likewise. I was tempted to pre-order the Cookbook, but then I thought about how the delays were creeping up with Razor Coast and Ebon Shroud, and decided that there wasn't any way I was giving yet more money even to Nick Logue until I got what I'd already paid for.

Liberty's Edge

So am I wrong in thinking this book was suppose to be released in April? I pre-ordered this book and still have not received it.


There's no news or status or update on what's going on with this book. Only Razor Coast is being addressed right now; the rest of the books are 'in limbo'.

:/

Liberty's Edge

Urizen wrote:

There's no news or status or update on what's going on with this book. Only Razor Coast is being addressed right now; the rest of the books are 'in limbo'.

:/

So what did I pre-pay for o.O?

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TheOrangeOne wrote:
Urizen wrote:

There's no news or status or update on what's going on with this book. Only Razor Coast is being addressed right now; the rest of the books are 'in limbo'.

:/

So what did I pre-pay for o.O?

Nick posted that back before all the problems came up and everything got massively delayed.

Liberty's Edge

Dark_Mistress wrote:
TheOrangeOne wrote:
Urizen wrote:

There's no news or status or update on what's going on with this book. Only Razor Coast is being addressed right now; the rest of the books are 'in limbo'.

:/

So what did I pre-pay for o.O?
Nick posted that back before all the problems came up and everything got massively delayed.

Is there still no time table? Don't they owe us at least that?

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Nope no new time table, mostly because everytime one has been posted something has come up that made them break it. So i think Nick has just decided that instead of constantly being wrong it is better to not give times. The last I heard is that the book was mostly done as far as writing. But would need layout and editing etc still which won't happen till after Razor Coast is done. That is the best time table I have seen that I think is likely true. So my guess is, if we are lucky 3 months after Razor Coast comes out.


Dark_Mistress wrote:
Nope no new time table, mostly because everytime one has been posted something has come up that made them break it. So i think Nick has just decided that instead of constantly being wrong it is better to not give times. The last I heard is that the book was mostly done as far as writing. But would need layout and editing etc still which won't happen till after Razor Coast is done. That is the best time table I have seen that I think is likely true. So my guess is, if we are lucky 3 months after Razor Coast comes out.

I liken these types of prognostication to those predicting the end of the world. ;)

Grand Lodge

Pre-order for shipment in April, already in the middle of May.
So, where is the book? What of the PDF?
Money was collected as soon as I ordered, now nothing and no idea of when it will be completed?
What kind of business are these folks running here?
Scam or what?


Katt De Grey wrote:

Pre-order for shipment in April, already in the middle of May.

So, where is the book? What of the PDF?
Money was collected as soon as I ordered, now nothing and no idea of when it will be completed?
What kind of business are these folks running here?
Scam or what?

Intentional scam? No. In over one's head? Absolutely.

Grand Lodge

Well, another week has passed and still no word from Mr. Logue as to when the book will be completed.

Has anyone out there heard anything?

Not even any response from Sinister Adventures have I seen. Makes me wonder if they are even checking the post/threads.

Did not seem to have any problem when they were asking for pre-orders and our hard earned money.

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Nick made a post a couple of days ago over at Sinister. Needless to say until RC is done and sent off to people, this won't even have a chance. I do think he said in the not to distant past that this book would likely be next as it is mostly written. But keep in mind that means it still needs layout, edit and likely a rewrite. None of which will even likely be started till as I mentioned RC is done.


D_M: Mild Mannered and Leggy Roving Reporter at your service!

;P

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Urizen wrote:

D_M: Mild Mannered and Leggy Roving Reporter at your service!

;P

I try to be helpful when and where I can. Even when I have no idea what I am talking about... which is disturbingly way to often. :)

Grand Lodge

D_M
Thanks for the info.
Was very excited at time of purchase, but now said excitment is waning.
What can I say, impatience is my nature.
Hope the book comes out soon.

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YW

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You know the irony is that we're wanting a definite time on something that contains the word anarchist. A word that stems from anarchy, which by definition has nothing to due with anything that remotely resembling a structured time line that we’re trying to apply to it. Therefore I think it would be best to expect the unexpected or at least a well rehearsed Monty Python skit.

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Oh I am not asking nor expecting a date or even a rough one. I just want Nick to get some help to get Sinister back up and on track again. Which it looks like he will be doing now. Hopefully things will go well from here on out and Nick will enjoy the process.

Grand Lodge

Well now, here is another thing.

The most recent rumour going around is that Nic is having a or talking about selling to LPDesigns (?)

Sooooo, what is to happen to the poor folks like me who have preordered AGMC ?

Are we to be left with no product and no idea were we are going to be?

Razors Coast has been in the works now for quuite some time.

Is this another debacule of that magnitude?

Just wondering Nic.

Liberty's Edge

From his post on his main product site(is the razor coast thread), he has said he is going to complete Razor Coast then get AGC finished.

It looks like a couple miscalculations led to problems of epic proportions. It's just a hard lesson learned

He is a good writer and I look forward to seeing the final product.

Grand Lodge

Excuses are like a.... everyone has one

Shadow Lodge

Nick has indicated that he is seeing everything through to the end. It's not a rumor, Louis Porter said he was in discussions with Nick. Louis also said it wouldn't happen until AFTER existing products ship so you are in the same boat as before.

Grand Lodge

Boat is sinking.

I will NEVER buy a pre order from this company again.

This whole thing has left a sour taste in my mouth.

How long has Razors Coast been promised anyway ?

Dark Archive

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The latest by Lou has said if memory serves is that he hopes to get it done by the end of July. Most of it is done now, edited and ready to print. I believe only the last chapter is left.

Sovereign Court

Wel, it's be soo good if it came out not too far from now. That'd be the way to keep one player interested. Pirate freak ...

Grand Lodge

Sooo, after Razors Coast, then any idea on the Cook Book ?
Rough time frame ?
Months ?
Years like RC ?

Just wondering.

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Haven't heard any dates but I can't see it needing the same amount of work as RC - that needed plenty of pretty maps and statblocks.

Grand Lodge

Another month has gone by and still no responce from Nick.

Are you there Nick ??

Liberty's Edge

Wow... this has me quite depressed. I was going over some of Nicks work and the work that sinister adventures does. All of it appears to be of TOP grade stuff. Looking over the information for Razor Coast especially got me excited, then I find out they are plagued with time issues. D:

Grand Lodge

I agree, his work is AWESOME, just extremely slow on the delivery aspect of things.

Dark Archive

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Last Nick said about this was. That it would get made and it was actually already mostly written. But that nothing more was going to be done with it until RC was done and being shipped to those that preordered already. SO since RC is still not done yet, I doubt there will be any news on this until then.

Sovereign Court

Dark_Mistress wrote:
Last Nick said about this was. That it would get made and it was actually already mostly written. But that nothing more was going to be done with it until RC was done and being shipped to those that preordered already. SO since RC is still not done yet, I doubt there will be any news on this until then.

Yeah, and I actually believe him, but Lou and Adam and the rest have done a terrific job of helping... So it's high time we see something playable.

I understand the RL issue, but we really need to roll this forward now. Starting with RC.


I am annoyed.

But every time I start to get "mad", I laugh at myself. I put down money up front for an "anarchist cookbook".

See the egress.

:)

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BryonD wrote:

I am annoyed.

But every time I start to get "mad", I laugh at myself. I put down money up front for an "anarchist cookbook".

See the egress.

:)

I pointed that out earlier. You have to love the irony of something dealing with anarchy not being released on time. Though if anything it seems to me it would be less acceptable if it were anything but late. What would be even more chaotic though would be to stumble across the book in a used book store (indicating it was indeed released as promised) with the previous owner's signature tucked away inside, clearly marking it as having been yours!!

Dark Archive

I just got confimation from Nick that the book is still on its way, even though he couldn't set a date yet.

Liberty's Edge

Hey there everyone. I was wondering what the status of this project is right now, as well as the progress on the Razor coast. These are both things I am extremely interested in and wish would just BE already.

Thanks again.

Dark Archive

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Themetricsystem wrote:

Hey there everyone. I was wondering what the status of this project is right now, as well as the progress on the Razor coast. These are both things I am extremely interested in and wish would just BE already.

Thanks again.

There has been no recent word about this product. The last about RC was this posted a couple of days ago.

Lou wrote:

Hey everyone, here's the latest update:

1. The first draft of the first half of Chapter 5, Final Showdowns is done. It has been through development and sent off to stat block land.

2. I have received the second half of Chapter 5, Final Showdowns. It is in its second development pass. A little more back and forth then off to stat block land.

note - talking in halves of chapter 5 is not as odd as it seems. The chapter contains the conclusion to the two story arcs that wind through all of razor coast: a minor arc and a major arc. It's a natural division to split the chapter in half. The first half of chapter 5 concludes the minor arc, the second half concludes the major arc.

3. As it turns out, I have not had a breathing moment to touch the Fire as She Bears combat system.

4. Adam Daigle's mystery monsters have completed stat block edit and been sent off to proofer #1.

5. John is on chapter 4 with the PF conversion.

I'm still hoping to get a draft to Nick before Gencon, although the timing is looking very, very tight. No promises, but I'll keep you posted.

- Lou

Grand Lodge

Dont hold your breath for this one, you will die from lack of air !!
Heck RC was supposed to be out LONG ago.

Grand Lodge

Just a bump to find out if anyone has heard anything from Nic.

Has anyone?

Any progress being made on RC or the Cookbook?

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Katt De Grey wrote:

Just a bump to find out if anyone has heard anything from Nic.

Has anyone?

Any progress being made on RC or the Cookbook?

Last from Lou was they was on the last chapter of RC. So until RC is done everything else is on hold. With RC now finally being fairly close might have something in the fairly near future, as far as news about this.

Dark Archive

Any word on this? Or razor coast or are people just going to end up eating a loss for investing in them?

Grand Lodge

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Carbon D. Metric wrote:
Any word on this? Or razor coast or are people just going to end up eating a loss for investing in them?

They'll be released at any moment now...

Just keep waiting...

Any moment...

-Skeld


Actually, Nick did post on Sinister last week, and Lou's been giving regular updates. It looks like it's pretty close.

-Ben.


Has Nick or Lou posted anything about Ebon Shroud? That is what I really want (and paid for already)....

-- david
Papa.DRB

ps. That sounds more "gripey" than I intended. I am just looking for news.

Sovereign Court

This, I suspect, is like the Necromicon: a fictional book that, if it did exist, could never be as awesome as your imagination makes it.

[Insert deity here] bless the good ship Logue and all who sail in her!


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Papa-DRB wrote:
Has Nick or Lou posted anything about Ebon Shroud? That is what I really want (and paid for already)....

Aside from Nick's assurances that he still intends to release everything that people have paid for eventually, I haven't seen any word on Ebon Shroud. Nick has posted recently on his forums that he's working on the Cookbook and a round of Indulgences though.

Personally like you I'd rather see Ebon Shroud before the Cookbook, seeing as I've paid for ES, but decided to wait on the Cookbook until I got the other two books I'd pre-ordered while everything seemed to be going fine with Sinister. I suspect it's a case of lowest hanging fruit when it comes to what Nick's working on though.

Sovereign Court Contributor

Hey all,

I just wanted to throw this out there:

I'm not involved in any of the other Sinister Products beside Razor Coast; so, I can't tell you anything about Ebon Shroud, AGC, or any of the other products Nick has pitched. At this point, I'm not even involved in the future/modern stuff any more.

Even for RC my sole mandate is to deliver a finished manuscript, ready for layout, to Nick. This IS pretty close at this point. More about that on the Sinister site.

However, I can say that Nick has repeatedly offered a refund to anyone who no longer wishes to wait. I have a feeling that may have gotten lost in the sauce. While I'm not involved in the running of the company Sinister Adventures in any way, am not a member of it, etc. etc. (I'm just a freelancer), I don't think anyone has to "eat a loss" on any pre-order.

Just email Nick and ask for your money back. He had a post about this up in May that provides his email for refunds.

I'm not a Nick apologist, nor am I saying a refund is as good as a product, but I am saying from where I'm sitting Mr. Logue ain't keepin' no one's money against their will.

For those who care, I'll keep posting updates about the manuscript here.


Thank you.

Regards,
Ruemere

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