Monsters with Trip


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I just noticed while checking out the Dire Wolf from the bestiary preview that nothing is said about their using Trip w/ Improved Trip. So, does that mean they provoke an AOO now?

Thanks.


I doubt they provoke. Bestiary previews just don't give us all the rules.


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Figured it out, the preview I was looking at did not have the Trip description, but the Bonus Bestiary did, so I'm good :)


Actually, shouldn't the term "take-down" be used as it is more accurate? Wolves (dire or otherwise)"trip" their targets by grabbing their legs/feet in a bite or by using force to knock someone over rather than by making them lose balance.

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Ixancoatl wrote:
Actually, shouldn't the term "take-down" be used as it is more accurate? Wolves (dire or otherwise)"trip" their targets by grabbing their legs/feet in a bite or by using force to knock someone over rather than by making them lose balance.

"Take-down" sounds a little too anachronistic to me. Like modern military jargon anachronistic. Trip works better because that's still what they're doing (rendering a walking creature prone) and because that's the name of the combat maneuver that you use to make something fall prone.


James Jacobs wrote:
Ixancoatl wrote:
Actually, shouldn't the term "take-down" be used as it is more accurate? Wolves (dire or otherwise)"trip" their targets by grabbing their legs/feet in a bite or by using force to knock someone over rather than by making them lose balance.
"Take-down" sounds a little too anachronistic to me. Like modern military jargon anachronistic. Trip works better because that's still what they're doing (rendering a walking creature prone) and because that's the name of the combat maneuver that you use to make something fall prone.

Good point. I've always just wondered about that. I've also wondered why 3.5 never better described how the wolf trip was done.


Ixancoatl wrote:
Good point. I've always just wondered about that. I've also wondered why 3.5 never better described how the wolf trip was done.

I thought that 3.5 did a good job of describing how the wolf trip was done. The wolf rolled Strength vs. Strength or Dexterity, and didn't provoke an AoO or allow a counter trip.

If you talking about fluff, there's a lot of abilities that don't have a good fluff description.

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Take down with the wolf makes me think of Shadow's dog from Final Fantasy VI.


Tarlane wrote:
Take down with the wolf makes me think of Shadow's dog from Final Fantasy VI.

That or the self damaging 'take down' attack from pokemon. "Arcanine, use Take Down!" lol.

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