What's the Skinny Again on Sneak Attack / Critical Hits Vs. Undead?


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Okay, so what I understand is that you can sneak attack undead now, if they are not incorporeal. Is that correct? Secondly, undead are now not immune to critical hits unless they are incorporeal or unless you have a ghost touch weapon or other means of ignoring their concealment. Feedback is appreciated!


Yep. The only things categorically immune to crits and sneak attacks now are, if I recall correctly, elementals, oozes, and incorporeal creatures (even if you have ghost touch weapons). Maybe plants too, but I don't think so. Constructs and corporeal undead are decidedly crittable.

There are individual exceptions, of course. In particular, lots of aberrations have partial or total immunity to crits and sneak attacks, even though aberrations in general don't have any such immunity.


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Zurai wrote:

Yep. The only things categorically immune to crits and sneak attacks now are, if I recall correctly, elementals, oozes, and incorporeal creatures (even if you have ghost touch weapons). Maybe plants too, but I don't think so. Constructs and corporeal undead are decidedly crittable.

There are individual exceptions, of course. In particular, lots of aberrations have partial or total immunity to crits and sneak attacks, even though aberrations in general don't have any such immunity.

Is that a revision to the rule or addition and where can I find that ruling so I can show my fellow players and DM's?


plassteel wrote:
Is that a revision to the rule or addition and where can I find that ruling so I can show my fellow players and DM's?

It's the basic rules for PF. If you look through the bestiary, creatures/creature types with crit immunity are noted as having such. Those without, like skeletons, are subject to precision damage.


Zurai wrote:
Yep. The only things categorically immune to crits and sneak attacks now are, if I recall correctly, elementals, oozes, and incorporeal creatures (even if you have ghost touch weapons).

Not quite accurate actually

From the Monster Types in the Bestiary, http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/monsters/creatureTypes.html#incorporeal- subtype

Quote:
Incorporeal Subtype: An incorporeal creature has no physical body. An incorporeal creature is immune to critical hits and precision-based damage (such as sneak attack damage) unless the attacks are made using a weapon with the ghost touch special weapon quality. In addition, creatures with the incorporeal subtype gain the incorporeal special quality.

So Ghost Touch precision damage away!

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