paizo.com Recent Posts in Saves vs. Entanglepaizo.com Recent Posts in Saves vs. Entangle2012-11-15T22:13:21Z2012-11-15T22:13:21ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Saves vs. EntangleDave Young 992https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2jy5t?Saves-vs-Entangle#32009-09-10T16:34:39Z2009-09-10T16:34:39Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Alizor wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Interesting, because I would play it as the save would begin on the creatures turn, not the druids. However the spell does mention the druid's turn not creatures, which would imply that yes they would have to make another save, even on the first turn. Note this this only applies to creatures that made their save, not to creatures that failed the save (As they are already entangled).</p>
<p>This may simply be a typo/error in the rules, but it does imply that on the round you cast the spell, everyone needs to make two saves, and if their fail either one they are entangled. </blockquote><p>I'm leaning towards typo. That's awfully powerful for a 1st level spell.Alizor wrote:Interesting, because I would play it as the save would begin on the creatures turn, not the druids. However the spell does mention the druid's turn not creatures, which would imply that yes they would have to make another save, even on the first turn. Note this this only applies to creatures that made their save, not to creatures that failed the save (As they are already entangled).
This may simply be a typo/error in the rules, but it does imply that on the round you cast the...Dave Young 9922009-09-10T16:34:39ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Saves vs. EntangleAlizorhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2jy5t?Saves-vs-Entangle#22012-11-15T22:13:21Z2009-09-10T16:28:02Z<p>Interesting, because I would play it as the save would begin on the creatures turn, not the druids. However the spell does mention the druid's turn not creatures, which would imply that yes they would have to make another save, even on the first turn. Note this this only applies to creatures that made their save, not to creatures that failed the save (As they are already entangled).</p>
<p>This may simply be a typo/error in the rules, but it does imply that on the round you cast the spell, everyone needs to make two saves, and if they fail either one they are entangled.</p>Interesting, because I would play it as the save would begin on the creatures turn, not the druids. However the spell does mention the druid's turn not creatures, which would imply that yes they would have to make another save, even on the first turn. Note this this only applies to creatures that made their save, not to creatures that failed the save (As they are already entangled).
This may simply be a typo/error in the rules, but it does imply that on the round you cast the spell, everyone...Alizor2009-09-10T16:28:02ZForums: Rules Questions: Saves vs. Entanglenoah mclaughlinhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2jy5t?Saves-vs-Entangle#12012-11-15T22:13:21Z2009-09-10T16:06:51Z<p>Do targets of an <i>entangle</i> spell get two saves the round that it is cast?</p>
<p>The text reads:
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<div class="messageboard-quotee">Quote:</div><blockquote>Creatures that make their save can move as normal, but those that remain in the area must save again at <b>the end of your turn</b>. Creatures that move into the area must save immediately.</blockquote><p>(my emphasis)
<p>So, as a standard action, a druid casts <i>entangle</i> on a band of goblins, catching them all in the area of effect. They're goblins, so all but one fail their saves and are entangled.</p>
<p>The druid then uses a move action to pull out a potion, ending her turn.</p>
<p>Do the entangled goblins now get <b>another</b> save? (They have technically remained in the area.) Does the free goblin have to save again? (He's still there, too.) </p>
<p>The common sense test for me says that this takes effect at the end of the druids <b>next</b> turn. But I'd like to be sure, since I'm starting up a wilderness campaign this weekend.</p>Do targets of an entangle spell get two saves the round that it is cast?
The text reads:
Quote:Creatures that make their save can move as normal, but those that remain in the area must save again at the end of your turn. Creatures that move into the area must save immediately.
(my emphasis) So, as a standard action, a druid casts entangle on a band of goblins, catching them all in the area of effect. They're goblins, so all but one fail their saves and are entangled.
The druid then uses a...noah mclaughlin2009-09-10T16:06:51Z