Core Rulebook PDF Updates


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Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

We have updated the PDF of the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Core Rulebook.

Please read this entire post before you go to download the new version!

The bookmarks have been updated to be more useful, and broken hyperlinks have been repaired. Page 548 is now placed correctly in the Single-File version. The One-File-per-Chapter version now contains the cover. Other minor typographic errors have also been corrected.

The changes made in this edition of the PDF will be incorporated into the second printing of the book, and have already been incorporated into the PRD.

    To verify the version you have:
  • In the One-File-per-Chapter version: if the cover is present, you already have the updated version.
  • In the Single-File version: if the first bookmark listed is "Cover," you already have the updated version.

Now, as you might expect, we have many, many people who will want to download the updated version, and having them all hit our site at once would be a very bad thing. Thus, in an attempt to space out the load, we're sending out the notification e-mail at a very slow rate—it'll probably take two days to reach everyone.

You do *not* need to wait for the e-mail to get the updated file—you just need to repersonalize it before you download it— but we do ask that if you can wait to get the update later, please do. If enough of you wait, it could make the difference between us being able to leave the messageboards up or having to take them down to keep the site running.


The revised PDF rocks!
Sooooooo much easier to use!

You guys really did a great job with the new rulebook.
Thanks for all your hard work.

Sovereign Court

Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Companion, Maps, Pathfinder Accessories, Pawns, Starfinder Accessories, Starfinder Maps, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber

Thanks.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Thanks for the new PDF, it is a great resource, quicker than the pfsrd.org in some situations and much quicker than the 4E Compendium (one of my fave things!) jumping around to different areas. SO thanks for $0/$9.99 it is a bargain of epic proportions :-)


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Companion, Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
mach1.9pants wrote:
Thanks for the new PDF, it is a great resource, quicker than the pfsrd.org in some situations and much quicker than the 4E Compendium (one of my fave things!) jumping around to different areas. SO thanks for $0/$9.99 it is a bargain of epic proportions :-)

Just out of curiosity, were you referring to d20pfsrd.com? I'd be curious in what circumstance the PDF is faster than the site? Certainly you can't be referring to searching? The PDF is certainly prettier, and has non-open content, but faster? In what situation?


fantastic, much much better. the reduced file size is nice, too bad it doesn't help it load faster.

i notice that the bookmarks just link to the page now instead of a location on the page. that's not a problem but, unfortunately, it also resets the zoom level to full page (the appendix bookmarks don't). this means that i've gotta reset the zoom every time that a bookmark is used and that gets old pretty fast.

a bookmarks to each spell description by name would be useful too, but thanks for the very usable pdf we now have.


Thanks for the new pdf. A quick question: the new pdf seems to be significantly smaller in size, i.e., 81 MB vis. 98 MB of the first version. I am all for a small file to manage, but I was curious why it is smaller? Thanks!!


Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber
jreyst wrote:
mach1.9pants wrote:
Thanks for the new PDF, it is a great resource, quicker than the pfsrd.org in some situations and much quicker than the 4E Compendium (one of my fave things!) jumping around to different areas. SO thanks for $0/$9.99 it is a bargain of epic proportions :-)
Just out of curiosity, were you referring to d20pfsrd.com? I'd be curious in what circumstance the PDF is faster than the site? Certainly you can't be referring to searching? The PDF is certainly prettier, and has non-open content, but faster? In what situation?

You are making an assumption that Mach has a good internet connection. It's entirely possible he has a slow connection. Or, he may have a blazingly fast computer. I have an AMD Phenom dual core desktop, and a DSL connection. I can search the PDF faster on my desktop than I can on-line. Not much faster, but faster. I can also imagine one of the situations might be him sitting at a gaming table on a 802.11B connection (11mbs).

And if he's one of the handful who are still on dial up, anything is faster than online. :)


Vic Wertz wrote:
... The changes made in this edition of the PDF will be incorporated into the second printing of the book ...

Vic,

When will the second printing be available? I want to purchase a printed version of the PFRPG and switch my campaign to it in the near future but I also hate keeping track of errata pages if I can avoid it.

Thanks,

-Danny


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Companion, Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
mdt wrote:

You are making an assumption that Mach has a good internet connection. It's entirely possible he has a slow connection. Or, he may have a blazingly fast computer. I have an AMD Phenom dual core desktop, and a DSL connection. I can search the PDF faster on my desktop than I can on-line. Not much faster, but faster. I can also imagine one of the situations might be him sitting at a gaming table on a 802.11B connection (11mbs).

And if he's one of the handful who are still on dial up, anything is faster than online. :)

This should probably be taken to an offline discussion but there are extremely few edge cases where I can see searching in an 81mb PDF might be faster than the google search I have on my site right now- even on dial up.

I am running Windows Vista 64 Ultimate on a dual-core amd64 processor with 4gb ram and running Adobe Acrobat 8.0 Standard.

Let me just try something real quick...

So in the PDF I looked for a word I was pretty sure only occurred one time, and near the back. I found Saberhagen. I returned to the beginning of the document and searched for that. I then watched Adobe's search dialog scan each page for a few seconds each. After 3+ minutes it had still not located that one word, while I watched it scan the book one page at a time. The search dialog eventually just disappeared, as if it had stopped. I then searched again, and after 3+ minutes it was on page 200 and something.

I suppose I could have something misconfigured in Adobe but I am using its standard/default settings. I'd be really curious to know how long it takes other people to search for the same phrase/string in their book. Maybe its just me that finds searching a PDF so slow and cumbersome.

I then went to my site and found a word I thought only occurred one time. I found the word "Tweet" which only occurs in "Jonathan Tweet" in the Wizards OGL License statement. I returned to the home page and searched for it. In less than 1 second it found the string.

Now, let's use a more realistic scenario. In the PDF search for "age" because you want to know what the effects of Aging are. The first result is "Sales Manager" on the Credits page. Then you hit Next many, many, many, many times through the words "manages", "passages", "advantages", very many instances of the word "damage" and "page", until, after, well I don't know how many clicks because I stopped after somewhere around a hundred.

On my site, I searched for "age" and the very first result was the Description page for Age, with this short summary (try it yourself if you like):

d20pfsrd.com wrote:

Description Aug 20, 2009 12:04 PM by John Reyst

... Versus Evil Law Versus Chaos Alignment Steps The Nine Alignments Changing Alignments Vital Statistics Age Height and Weight Alignment A creature's general moral and personal attitudes are represented by ...
Pathfinder SRD > Description

And hyperlinked to the result. The second link was to Additional Rules on aging, etc etc.

My point simply being, what is it that Google does well? Find stuff. Who thinks they can do that better than Google? That's why I like Google Search. Its nearly instantaneous and returns extremely relevant results.

I'd love to hear other thoughts on this.

Just as an FYI, in Acrobat I have "Enable Fast Find" checked, "Ignore Diacritics and Accents" checked, and "Always use advanced search options" checked. I have "Range of Words for Proximity Searches" set to 900. I have Maximum Cache size set to 100MB. Note again though that I did not set these, these are how they were set upon installation. I will try changing these around a bit to see if my performance improves. I'll specifically try playing around with the Maximum Cache Size and some others to see what happens.


sciencephile wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
... The changes made in this edition of the PDF will be incorporated into the second printing of the book ...

Vic,

When will the second printing be available? I want to purchase a printed version of the PFRPG and switch my campaign to it in the near future but I also hate keeping track of errata pages if I can avoid it.

Thanks,

-Danny

Nevermind, I see that James just answered the question in another thread - November. Thanks, James.

Must ... make ... Will Save to see if I want to wait.


Will there be any plans to re-add bookmarks for the spells?

If not, anyone know how we could do this ourselves?


Takamonk wrote:

Will there be any plans to re-add bookmarks for the spells?

If not, anyone know how we could do this ourselves?

Seconded.

I REALLY liked those in the Beta .pdf and find their lack in the Core .pdf fairly disappointing.

The rest of the updated .pdf is really great.


Any plans for a revision with support for layers, to be able to print a page here or there without the backgrounds and images?

(For example, text layer, background layer, images layer, etc.)


sciencephile wrote:
sciencephile wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
... The changes made in this edition of the PDF will be incorporated into the second printing of the book ...

Vic,

When will the second printing be available? I want to purchase a printed version of the PFRPG and switch my campaign to it in the near future but I also hate keeping track of errata pages if I can avoid it.

Thanks,

-Danny

Nevermind, I see that James just answered the question in another thread - November. Thanks, James.

Must ... make ... Will Save to see if I want to wait.

I failed my Will Save and got the book today. It's awesome. I can't wait until a few more game sessions (for when me and my players officially move the campaign to Pathfinder RPG).

The Exchange

Brian E. Harris wrote:

Any plans for a revision with support for layers, to be able to print a page here or there without the backgrounds and images?

(For example, text layer, background layer, images layer, etc.)

Oh, yes please!

A plain white background would also make it much easier on my poor vision.

It's not as if you have to try and design a background that inhibits photocopying and OCR these days - not when distributing as PDF.


Any news on the estimated schedule of the next update of the PDF?

The actual version (unless it has been fixed in these days) still has a broken hyperlink on page 53, on Animal Feats - the text misses the Weapon Finesse feat (there's a hint of a hyperlink, an underscore between two commas, and the Feat has been 'eaten' by that).

The Exchange

We desperately need the spells to be bookmarked. It is pretty much impossible to get to spells quickly.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

The Wraith wrote:
Any news on the estimated schedule of the next update of the PDF?

Probably not until the third printing goes to the printer... which may happen fairly soon, as the majority of the 2nd printing has already been presold (and it won't even reach our warehouse for a few more weeks)!

Sovereign Court

Pathfinder Companion, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber

If that also includes a new errata (with those things found from the Errata thread), that would be g-r-e-a-t for other translating parties.


has anyone tried the read-/use- -ability of the PDF on the iPhone?


Just because I'm a weirdo, I was curious if there was any way for a subscriber to get the "1st Printing" PDF?

I have two different copies that I snagged when they updated, but both of mine say that they're the second printing.

As I said, I'm weird, but I'd like the PDF that matches my print book...

Sovereign Court

Would like to know.....

I have a copy of 1st printing, and second printing at my game table.

I intend to order yet another copy either for a friend, or as a "house copy" for introducing newer players....

Questions:
1) When is third printing arriving? Should I wait? Any updates there worth waiting for?

2) For anyone who uses the PDF rather than the various Web sites for in-game searching, can you tell me how you use the .pdf (for what? what features are you using? why would you recommend using the .pdf instead?)
Or, if I use internet, is there a reason to use the .pdf?

Context: I like to "flag my printed books with little color tabs" and use a laptop to instantly bring up spells when they are cast.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Brian E. Harris wrote:

Just because I'm a weirdo, I was curious if there was any way for a subscriber to get the "1st Printing" PDF?

I have two different copies that I snagged when they updated, but both of mine say that they're the second printing.

As I said, I'm weird, but I'd like the PDF that matches my print book...

We never made a PDF of the first printing.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Pax Veritas wrote:
1) When is third printing arriving? Should I wait? Any updates there worth waiting for?

We haven't even ordered it yet, so it's several months out. We have not yet compiled all the changes for it, so even we don't know what they all are yet. We will, however, release errata detailing the changes from either 1st or 2nd printing well before the printed copies are actually available.

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