Heavy Warhorse


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Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

Does a Heavy Warhorse really have the advanced template added on, giving the creature these base statistics:

Str 20 Dex 18 Con 21 Int 2 Wis 13 Cha 7

Now I'm going out on a limb here and not increasing the Int/Wis/Cha scores despite the fact that I believe the advanced template does this. This really makes a Paladin's warhorse or a druid's animal companion a very very tough companion. Anyone else reading this in the rules, or am I missing something?

Scarab Sages

Alizor wrote:

Does a Heavy Warhorse really have the advanced template added on, giving the creature these base statistics:

Str 20 Dex 18 Con 21 Int 2 Wis 13 Cha 7

Now I'm going out on a limb here and not increasing the Int/Wis/Cha scores despite the fact that I believe the advanced template does this. This really makes a Paladin's warhorse or a druid's animal companion a very very tough companion. Anyone else reading this in the rules, or am I missing something?

The advanced template does increase all stats by 4. Whether or not this affects the mental scores will have to wait until the full Bestiary.

And yes, this does make the Paladin's warhorse a tough combatant. The druid's animal companion, however, uses the new animal companion rules in the Core Rulebook, and does not go off the Bestiary statistics.

Your God of Knowledge,
Nethys


The Paladin's Mount also uses Druid Companion rules
(with extra stuff like Celestial template at certain level, higher INT)

Everyone else who goes to the pet store and BUYS a Hvy Warhorse of course use the Bestiary stats.

Grand Lodge

What Quandry said.

'The second type of bond allows a paladin to gain the service of an unusually intelligent, strong, and loyal steed to serve her in her crusade against evil. This mount is usually a heavy horse (for a Medium paladin) or a pony (for a Small paladin), although more exotic mounts, such as a boar, camel, or dog are also suitable. This mount functions as a druid's animal companion, using the paladin's level as her effective druid level. Bonded mounts have an Intelligence of at least 6.'

So no advanced template, and I assume you'd build it from the 'Horse' animal companion in the druid list, rather than from the Heavy Warhorse's stats.

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