Vital Strike + Scorpion Style


Rules Questions


Having read through the feats for Vital/Improved Vital Strike, as well as Scorpion Style/Gorgon Fist, I'm not sure if it's possible, but...

Can you perform a Vital Strike and a Scorpion Strike on the same single attack?

Can you perform A Vital Strike with the Gorgon Fist effect as well?

What about Stunning Fist?

All of them are single attacks, and all of them except Stunning Fist must be used as a single attack action that round. I'm hoping they can be combined, since that'll give Monks a good way to open a fight (charge+scorpion+vital, followed by gorgon+vital, followed by Medusa's Wrath+Flurry of Blows+Ki Flurry). If not, then I may need to rethink my monk build...


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Stalchild wrote:

Having read through the feats for Vital/Improved Vital Strike, as well as Scorpion Style/Gorgon Fist, I'm not sure if it's possible, but...

Can you perform a Vital Strike and a Scorpion Strike on the same single attack?

Can you perform A Vital Strike with the Gorgon Fist effect as well?

What about Stunning Fist?

All of them are single attacks, and all of them except Stunning Fist must be used as a single attack action that round. I'm hoping they can be combined, since that'll give Monks a good way to open a fight (charge+scorpion+vital, followed by gorgon+vital, followed by Medusa's Wrath+Flurry of Blows+Ki Flurry). If not, then I may need to rethink my monk build...

My opinion:

vital strike + scorpion: yes
vital strike + gorgon: yes
charge + vital strike: yes
charge + scorpion: no (charge a full attack action and scorpion is a standard action - you can't do both in the same round)

medusas+flurry+ki flurry: yes

I think stunning fist could be added to ANY of those options above since it doesn't take an action it just must be declared before making an attack roll.

This will work, just remember you get the poorer BAB with Scorption and Gorgon's so at higher levels you may miss on those single attacks and prolong getting to Medusa.


Eric Tillemans wrote:


My opinion:
vital strike + scorpion: yes
vital strike + gorgon: yes
charge + vital strike: yes
charge + scorpion: no (charge a full attack action and scorpion is a standard action - you can't do both in the same round)

medusas+flurry+ki flurry: yes

I think stunning fist could be added to ANY of those options above since it doesn't take an action it just must be declared before making an attack roll.

This will work, just remember you get the poorer BAB with Scorption and Gorgon's so at higher levels you may miss on those single attacks and prolong getting to Medusa.

Thanks. That sounds good to me, since I can still do a single move+standard action for scorpion/vital as an opening.

Plus, Medusa/Flurry/Ki Flurry comes out to 10 attacks in a round. 5 of which are at +18 before the iterative finishers. It may not set up every single time, but when it does, it should be pretty effective!

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Eric is correct in his assessment.

Your God of Knowledge,
Nethys

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