Sean Bean heads cast for HBO's A Game of Thrones


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Scarab Sages

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Book arya was allowed to leave at any point, without repercussions, according to the kindly man. I was a bit meh on the whole thing being dumb arya rather than jaqen or all along a trap. Without her warging like in the book it leaves her just a well trained assassin with echolocation, mastery of poisons, and a superlative mastery of disguise and blending. Still a potent foe to be sure, but her discovering and mastering her warg powers in the book has a better payoff if she simply leaves like she did in the show.

I like the hounds arc, and him replacing the need for LSH is better imo. I hated cat on the show and in the books, totally didn't want lsh to show up. But give the 1 swing decapitator a solid reason to exist is a good move on the tv guys.

And I read elsewhere how this episode was basically a snub to all the fan theories and gaga like shipping Jaime and Brienne and Cleganebowl and waif = arya.

Also unlike Mr molten Dragon above, this season is my second favorite thus far. Not being shackled to Martin has been an advantage, even if it does mix in a few more tropes that George didn't already include.


Molten Dragon wrote:
I thought the writers said that LSH would not make an appearance or did they change their minds?

That's exactly what they said about Jon Snow.


I did think the episode was meh. They are certainly saving the budget for next episode.

Jamie did prevent a massacre even if it took threatening a baby to do it.

Turning a Sparrow into a Pez dispenser was fun but I suspect that Frankenmountain isn't as strong as he was because he was trying to pop the head with one hand I think.

Arya stuff was a waste

Since one of the season teasers showed another Harpy attack, I suspect that the Dorathaki will be sweeping in to finish them off.


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Hitdice wrote:
Think there's a chance of LSH showing up?

C'mon, the TV show can't possibly diverge to the point of bringing in the Legion of Super-Heroes! ;)


"hey look, i needed ships.

"someone just attacked me with ships....

Flies drogon over 4 ships at night, toasts them.

"EVERYONE ELSE OFFF OF MYYYYY BOATS OR YOU ALL BURN....


Hitdice wrote:
Molten Dragon wrote:
I thought the writers said that LSH would not make an appearance or did they change their minds?
That's exactly what they said about Jon Snow.

Hasn't it been too long to resurrect Cat at this point? In the books, Beric had to give up his last resurrection to bring StoneCat back; in the show, Beric is still very alive, which probably means Cat is still rotting somewhere.


We don't know if there's a limit on resurrections or not, or if he'd just had it and passed it on.

The description of it certainly sounds a bit like costing you levels...


Besides, in the books, they find Cat's corpse by the river, 3 days after the Red Wedding... In the show, it's been years since that event. It's unlikely they'll ever find her corpse.


Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Hitdice wrote:
Molten Dragon wrote:
I thought the writers said that LSH would not make an appearance or did they change their minds?
That's exactly what they said about Jon Snow.
Hasn't it been too long to resurrect Cat at this point? In the books, Beric had to give up his last resurrection to bring StoneCat back; in the show, Beric is still very alive, which probably means Cat is still rotting somewhere.

I agree that it's not too late to introduce LSH, but I thought in an interview somewhere around season four they said that there was basically no room in the show for LSH.

If I'm wrong that's fine but I'm not holding my breath.

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Lemmy wrote:
Besides, in the books, they find Cat's corpse by the river, 3 days after the Red Wedding... In the show, it's been years since that event. It's unlikely they'll ever find her corpse.

She costars with Gendry in the wacky new Westerosi sitcom, Weekend at Catelyn's.


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David Manning, Movie Critic wrote:
Lemmy wrote:
Besides, in the books, they find Cat's corpse by the river, 3 days after the Red Wedding... In the show, it's been years since that event. It's unlikely they'll ever find her corpse.
She costars with Gendry in the wacky new Westerosi sitcom, Weekend at Catelyn's.

Reminds me of this photoshop I found


Dany pops in with this look that says "I was gone for 5 minutes..."


She has no right to say anything after giving the whole "We stick together to the end" line to Misandei and then going "LOL! NO! I'm outta here, b#!!*es!!!"


I don't think she exactly chose to take off so far away or for so long. Drogon has a mind of his own, apparently.


Belle Sorciere wrote:
I don't think she exactly chose to take off so far away or for so long. Drogon has a mind of his own, apparently.

She didn't plan to go that far away... But she still climbed on the Dragon without thinking twice and left Missandei behind.

Did she even try to convince Drogon to stay and fight?


I don't think she expected to leave anyone behind, and given all the spears/javelins it's not really surprising that Drogon left the fight behind.

That is, I don't think the situation of "Dany abandoning Missandei" is nearly as clear-cut as you're saying it is. The idea that she wanted to end up a week away on horseback from Meereen is patently absurd.


She surely didn't seem too worried, smiling all the way while flying into the horizon...

I'm exaggerating for humor, of course, but the way that scene was filmed, it made it seem like Dany really didn't care much about whatever happens to those who stayed behind.


I don't think that's consistent with the way her character has been portrayed. If she didn't care, why did she return?


That's exactly my problem with that scene... Dane wanted to take Drogon to safety after seeing him get hurt, but in the series, they made it look like she didn't give a damn about the people she left behind. That's not the case, just a filming mistake.

And like I said, I'm exaggerating for humor... I thought that would be clear, considering I used the sentence "LOL! NO! I'm outta here, b!!%$es!!!" when talking about Game of Thrones... -.-'


What I think of during Dany's flying scene

I have this big huge theory about the next episode! Since the creators like subverting things like Cleganebowl I have an idea how IllegitimateBowl will turn out.

Super secret speculation!:

The battle we see actually happens in a vision that Melisandre shows Jon. The armies gather and Ramsey makes a pitch to Jon, fight and thousands will die and everything in the letter comes true, or hand over Sansa and wear oaths to him. Not only can they leave they can also settle the Karstark/Umber lands. "I had them killed because they were traitors and didn't swear to me." Jon rejects and the battle starts. Jon and company rack up a body count but are all killed as the shield/pikemen crush them in a circle.
The vision ends and Jon goes out. Ramsey makes the exact same pitch. Jon thinks back to the vision and says 'Bring Sansa here." Cue credits.


LOL! Not only she leaves her friends behind without a second thought... She almost runs them over! XD


MannyGoblin wrote:

What I think of during Dany's flying scene

She's like, "I don't need no dang kid to give me a name, I'll give myself 20 different ones!"


Lemmy wrote:

That's exactly my problem with that scene... Dane wanted to take Drogon to safety after seeing him get hurt, but in the series, they made it look like she didn't give a damn about the people she left behind. That's not the case, just a filming mistake.

And like I said, I'm exaggerating for humor... I thought that would be clear, considering I used the sentence "LOL! NO! I'm outta here, b!!%$es!!!" when talking about Game of Thrones... -.-'

That scene played out just like the books...Drogon was getting spears chucked at him and being injured. Drogon wasn't so big that he could engage in melee without serious injury.


MannyGoblin wrote:

What I think of during Dany's flying scene

I have this big huge theory about the next episode! Since the creators like subverting things like Cleganebowl I have an idea how IllegitimateBowl will turn out.
** spoiler omitted **

Ugh..while the creators have messed up in the past, I don't think anything that stupid would happen.

Also as someone who never thought Cleganebowl was going to happen (at least with the trial), I was not really disappointed to see that outcome.


MMCJawa wrote:
Lemmy wrote:

That's exactly my problem with that scene... Dane wanted to take Drogon to safety after seeing him get hurt, but in the series, they made it look like she didn't give a damn about the people she left behind. That's not the case, just a filming mistake.

And like I said, I'm exaggerating for humor... I thought that would be clear, considering I used the sentence "LOL! NO! I'm outta here, b!!%$es!!!" when talking about Game of Thrones... -.-'

That scene played out just like the books...Drogon was getting spears chucked at him and being injured. Drogon wasn't so big that he could engage in melee without serious injury.

GRRM isn't impervious to mistakes... But IIRC, the book doesn't describe her as "almost running Drogon over her friends and joyfully smiling while flying far away".


Lemmy wrote:
LOL! Not only she leaves her friends behind without a second thought... She almost runs them over! XD

To be fair she barely made the handle animal check thanks to the -2 injury penalty for it to get HER out of there. it probably would have eaten anyone else


Get ready for the Battle of the Bastards! Will there be a rescue by Vale forces? Will Ramsey die or be driven off? The longest episode of the season.

Scarab Sages

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Is it? Winds of winter will be like 69mins.


Huh. Thought this episode would be the long one, it will be this season's Hardhome.

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Season six finale will be the longest episode ever


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Heh... The best thing about "Battle of Bastards" is that'll be aired on Father's Day. XD


Saw a few posts saying that the title is kinda poor. 'The Snows of Winterfell' got lots of unofficial approval


Still not as good as Tyrion's fathers day present. That just really gets you right here, you know?

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BigNorseWolf wrote:

Still not as good as Tyrion's fathers day present. That just really gets you right here, you know?

That's my favorite part from the books. IMO they nailed the scene in the show.


so uh HBOnow went down right when the new ep was suppose to come online. This is not encouraging people to pay 14 bucks a month for the service...


Hodor hold the door. Giant break the door.


Mud and blood. Mud and Blood. Not for the squeamish.

No doubt Dany/Yara fanart is going to reach critical mass in a few hours.

Scarab Sages

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What do they ship as though? Yanni?


archmagi1 wrote:
What do they ship as though? Yanni?

Ship with ships?


Yaraerys?


Why would you be here before seeing the latest episode?:
Great battle, bad episode.

The timely arrival of Littlefinger's forces was extremely predictable... Kinda disappointing, actually. It'd be better if Jon's forces were intentionally delaying the fight until they arrived. Why the f!!# didn't Sansa tell everyone she sent a raven to the Vale? Stupid character is stupid.

Jon and Ramsay's "duel" was underwhelming, but it wasn't particularly important anyway.

Ramsay's method of execution was extremely predictable, but I don't know how else they could kill him in a satisfying way. Good thing the hounds are polite enough to wait for Sansa's speech to be over, huh?

PS: How come the giant has no weapon or shield? He's the strongest member of Jon's army... And none of the veteran warriors and commanders ever thought about giving some sort of weaponry? All he needed is a large club and a freaking shield!

PS 2: How come Jon and Sansa don't even consider the possibility of asking the red woman to bring back his brother?


Boop:

Giants have trouble communicating beyond simple concepts. Handing him a club would work I agree but a shield would just be tossed IMO.

I believe Jon would have hosed things up unless Wun Wun sat on him regardless. His brother Rickon was going to get slaughtered and snap judgements are his thing. Davis did have a 'OH SUNOFAB%+$$!' look when Jon went out.

It would be just like Littlefinger to be holding back his forces, let the filthy wildings take the brunt then charge right in. As I said, LF and Davos would do a double face palm when Jon ran out. Which would no doubt lead to Jon getting trampled by the calvary when LF wanted to stay put and Davos charging.

Sansa telling Davos about Littlefinger would have been a good move, correct. Jon did show that he didn't listen to Sansa though.

As for Rickon, remember that the last scenes are a very short time after the fight and Rickon's corpse is no doubt under a pile of bodies and stomped flat by horses.


Spoiler:
Rickon was brought in on a stretcher, and Jon told them to bury him in the crypt.

Scarab Sages

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Also, Jon totally wouldn't be up for that considering his conversation with Mellisandre just before the battle.


Manny goblin wrote:
Giants have trouble communicating beyond simple concepts.

Nope. We don't know how smart they are, but Wun wun there was the one that figured out to use fire against the wights at hardhome, had a really good sense of when to fight and when to run for it, and i'm pretty sure that he didn't pick up those clothes here's wearing at Lord and Tailors.

They speak the tongue of the first men. We don't know how well but it goes well past point and grunt.

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And they are using bows. Freakishly scary bows.


Lemmy wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

Ditto everything Lemmy posted. Except even the battle was dull as it went on and on. The show continues to disappoint.


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Sometimes I wonder if everyone is watching the same show I am...

Scarab Sages

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People enjoy different things. I really enjoyed the battle, and it was quite brutal. My wife was like, "They're using their horses as battering rams." And they were, and it was great.

And then my claustrophobia hit a bit as Jon was being trampled.


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Granted the pwnage that happened at the beginning of the show kinda made the fight at the end seem dull, by only by that comparison.

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