Managed to snag both Divine Power and the ECG


4th Edition


If you have questions, ask them and I will try to answer them :)

Silver Crusade

Hopefully that means my Divine Power will be shipping from Paizo pretty soon :)


Larry Latourneau wrote:
If you have questions, ask them and I will try to answer them :)

Well, tell me as much about the Avenger as possible. What's the new build? Oath Power? Any decent damage powers?


arkady_v wrote:
Larry Latourneau wrote:
If you have questions, ask them and I will try to answer them :)
Well, tell me as much about the Avenger as possible. What's the new build? Oath Power? Any decent damage powers?

Keep in mind, I haven't done much with the Avenger, as no-one in my group has played one.

New Build: Commanding Avenger - based on the Censure of Unity (+1 bonus to damage rolls against your Oath of Emnity target for each ally adjacent to that target. So the idea is to swear your oath and then surround the target with as many allies as possible. Wisdom, then Intelligence, then Dex in order of importance for abilities.

2 new At Wills:

Bond of Censure: Ranged 5, Wisdom vs. Will. If target is your Oath target, and you have no enemies adjacent to you, make 2 attack rolls and take the higher of the two. Target is pulled a number of squares = Int. modifier. If they end up adjacent, they take 1d10 radiant damage.

Leading Strike: Melee, Wisdom vs. AC, 1[W] + Wis. modifier. One ally adjacent to you or the target gains a bonus to their next damage roll against the target equal to your Int. modified.

They have a cool level 29 Daily called Cataclysmic Duel. Does 7[W] + Wisdom mod. damage and target takes -2 to attack rolls against you (save ends) (Half Damage on a miss).

Effect is, for the rest of the encounter whenever the target hits you, it gets to choose one of your allies within 5 squares and knock them prone. When you hit the target, you choose an enemy within 5 squares of the target and daze them (save ends daze)

New Paragon Paths:

Ardent Champion
Dervish of Dawn
Fread Imperator
Favored Soul
Relentless Slayer
Serene Initiate
Watchful Shepherd
Weapon of Fortune


Larry Latourneau wrote:
If you have questions, ask them and I will try to answer them :)

How much more is there in the way of Paladin Str abilities? anything particularly shiny about new paladin stuff?


Tieren wrote:
Larry Latourneau wrote:
If you have questions, ask them and I will try to answer them :)
How much more is there in the way of Paladin Str abilities? anything particularly shiny about new paladin stuff?

New Class feature:

Replace Lay on Hands with one of two new options
- Ardent Vow: Melee Touch, Minor (Once per round, up to a max. number of times per day = Wisdom modifier. The next time you attack the target, before the end of your next turn, you gain a bonus to the damage roll equal to 5 + Wis. modifier. Also, whenever you attack the target before the end of the encounter, it is subject to your divine sanction until the end of your next turn.
- Virute's Touch: Melee Touch, Minor (Once per round, up to a max. number of times per day = Wisdom modifier. You remove one condition from the target: Blinded, Dazed, Deafened, Slowed, Stunned or Weakened

New Builds:
Ardent Paladin
- More like a striker than the other builds
- Willingly sacrifice your own health and defense to strike down enemies, even giving up some healing ability to be a more powerful attacker.
- Str, then Wis, then Con in order of importance.

Virtuous Paladin (Can be seen as a free excerpt at WoTC)

New Paragon Paths:
Champion of Corellon
Demonslayer
Dragonslayer
Faithful Shield
Gray Guard
Hammer of Moradin
Holy Conqueror
Knight of the Chalice
Questing Knight
Scion of Sacrifice
Slayer of the Dead

Silver Crusade

Is the new Invoker material going to blow my mind? I'd like to play one sometime.


Gah. I really can't wait to get this. I haven't been looking forward to a book release like this for a while. I'm playing a cleric of Calistria in our 4E Pathfinder game. Any chance you could tell us how many domains there are or even possibly list them? Pretty please.


Celestial Healer wrote:
Is the new Invoker material going to blow my mind? I'd like to play one sometime.

New Class Feature:

The Covenant of Malediction
- Manifestation: When you use a divine encounter or daily attack power on your turn, you can push one target hit by the power 1 square after the power's effect is resolved
- Channel Divinity (Maledictor's Doom): Minor Action, Close Blast 5, only enemies. Each target takes a -1 penalty to attack rolls and saving throws until the end of your next turn. In addition, whenever the target is hit by a fear attack before the end of your next turn, you can push the target 1 square as a free action

New Build:
Malediction Invoker
Wisdom, then Con, then Int in order of importance of ability scores.

New powers suitable for Covenant of Malediction, Covenant of Preservation and Covenant of Wrath

New Paragon Paths:
Adept of Whispers
Crimson Arbiter
Devoted Oracle
Divine Hand
Divine Philosopher
Keeper of the Nine
Speaker of the Word
Stonecaller
Theurge of the Compact
Vessel of Ichor


Brian Carpenter wrote:
Gah. I really can't wait to get this. I haven't been looking forward to a book release like this for a while. I'm playing a cleric of Calistria in our 4E Pathfinder game. Any chance you could tell us how many domains there are or even possibly list them? Pretty please.

Domains:

To summarize, your divine character gains access to the domains of his or her deity, which means they gain access to those domains feats. Each divine domain has a divinity feat and a domain feat associated with it, and they follow the normal rules for picking feats.

There are more than 30 Domains and they are as follows:

Avandra: Change, Freedom, Luck
Bahamut: Hope, Justice, Protection
Corellon: Arcana, Skill, Wilderness
Erathis: Civilization, Creation, Justice
Ioun: Fate, Knowledge, Skill
Kord: Storm, Strength, War
Melora: Life, Sea, Wilderness
Moradin: Creation, Earth, Protection
Pelor: Hope, Life, Sun
The Raven Queen: Death, Fate, Winter
Sehanine: Love, Moon, Trickery
Asmodeus: Civilization, Tyranny
Bane: Skill, War
Grummsh: Destruction, Strength
Lolth: Darkness, Trickery
Tharizdun: Destruction, Madness
Tiamat: Strife, Vengeance
Torog: Earth, Torment
Vecna: Knowledge, Undeath
Zehir: Darkness, Poison

I must say I was a little disappointed that they didn't list the Gods from Eberron and FR, especially given the fact that they went out of their way to include racial feats for Warforged, Khalastar, Drow, Gensai, etc.


Tieren wrote:
Larry Latourneau wrote:
If you have questions, ask them and I will try to answer them :)
How much more is there in the way of Paladin Str abilities? anything particularly shiny about new paladin stuff?

From what I've heard (but not seen directly), there is a feat to let them add Str mod to Divine Challenge damage, which should be a big boost for them.

The other big Paladin news is 'Divine Sanction' - it is a condition like Divine Challenge, which you can place on enemies for a turn with certain powers (including an At-Will). Which means the Paladin now has more ability to tank several enemies at once.


Thanks for the domain info Larry. It looks like Calistria can be well represented by the Love, Trickery and Vengeance domains.

Silver Crusade

Do you know how long it usually takes for a book like Divine Power to reach the DDI Compendium for people with a subscription?


Celestial Healer wrote:
Do you know how long it usually takes for a book like Divine Power to reach the DDI Compendium for people with a subscription?

DDI updates are done on the first Tuesday of each month. DP will appear in the DDI as of the August 4th update.


Brian Carpenter wrote:
Thanks for the domain info Larry. It looks like Calistria can be well represented by the Love, Trickery and Vengeance domains.

After briefly glancing at the Love domain in Divine Power, I don't think that Love is a great match for Calistria. It seems to be more ... caring for others than I would attribute to Calistria. I would think that a power connected with her would be more likely to allow you have damage dealt to you be redirected at a willing ally than the reverse.

Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 16

Larry Latourneau wrote:
If you have questions, ask them and I will try to answer them :)

How many roads must a man walk down?

What's the sound of one hand clapping?

If a tree falls in the forest will a woodchuck chuck it?


Blazej wrote:
Brian Carpenter wrote:
Thanks for the domain info Larry. It looks like Calistria can be well represented by the Love, Trickery and Vengeance domains.
After briefly glancing at the Love domain in Divine Power, I don't think that Love is a great match for Calistria. It seems to be more ... caring for others than I would attribute to Calistria. I would think that a power connected with her would be more likely to allow you have damage dealt to you be redirected at a willing ally than the reverse.

Hmmm, I haven't receivedy my copy yet, but from your description it sounds like you are probably right. Thankfully, I've downplayed the lust aspect of the worship and focused more on the trickery and vengeance aspects.


Hal Maclean wrote:
Larry Latourneau wrote:
If you have questions, ask them and I will try to answer them :)

How many roads must a man walk down?

What's the sound of one hand clapping?

If a tree falls in the forest will a woodchuck chuck it?

One...his own road

"Cl"

Depends on if it falls on the woodchuck or not.

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