PF RPG pre order...


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First, any idea when the PDF/HC deal will be offered? If its going to be offered?

Second, I am going to Gen Con. So if I pre order, is there any way I can pick up the book at GenCon rather than have it shipped to me? This is because I would LOVE to get some signatures while I am at Gen Con.

I know I could just buy the book at GenCon, but I want the PDF if offered.

Plus, are you going to have any Gen Con exclusive release like you did the last time I was there in 2006?

Sorry if this is the wrong forum, but I figured this is a customer service type of question.


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber
Treebore the Ruby Lord wrote:

First, any idea when the PDF/HC deal will be offered? If its going to be offered?

Second, I am going to Gen Con. So if I pre order, is there any way I can pick up the book at GenCon rather than have it shipped to me? This is because I would LOVE to get some signatures while I am at Gen Con.

I know I could just buy the book at GenCon, but I want the PDF if offered.

Plus, are you going to have any Gen Con exclusive release like you did the last time I was there in 2006?

Sorry if this is the wrong forum, but I figured this is a customer service type of question.

Seems like an appropriate forum. I don't speak for Paizo by any stretch, but I think the general thought is that the RPG subscription (with the PDF) will be announced/available when they announce the next book(s) in the line after the Bestiary.

And that has been hinted to be at PaizoCon, next weekend (12th-14th). So my *guess* is that it'll be up by June 15.

Sczarni

Vic and James have also said there will be SOME way to get a free PDF even if it That way doesn't end up being a subscription.

last i head they couldn't hold orders to be picked up. Last year the Beta sold out by 10AM friday, can you imagine how much business they are going to have this year? You don't want one book with your name on it to get lost in the shuffle and accidentally sold


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber
Cpt_kirstov wrote:
last i head they couldn't hold orders to be picked up. Last year the Beta sold out by 10AM friday, can you imagine how much business they are going to have this year? You don't want one book with your name on it to get lost in the shuffle and accidentally sold

Treebore - do you know anyone else who plans to buy the RPG book, but not get a subscription? You could buy at Gen Con and sell your subscription one to them.


Cpt_kirstov wrote:

Vic and James have also said there will be SOME way to get a free PDF even if it That way doesn't end up being a subscription.

Well, what other way is there?

Sczarni

KaeYoss wrote:
Cpt_kirstov wrote:

Vic and James have also said there will be SOME way to get a free PDF even if it That way doesn't end up being a subscription.

Well, what other way is there?

preorders, superscribers who buy the rules book, subscribers to X that buy the rulebook...Combination of those... I'm sure there are more options.


Cpt_kirstov wrote:
KaeYoss wrote:
Cpt_kirstov wrote:

Vic and James have also said there will be SOME way to get a free PDF even if it That way doesn't end up being a subscription.

Well, what other way is there?
preorders, superscribers who buy the rules book, subscribers to X that buy the rulebook...Combination of those... I'm sure there are more options.

There are other options, but almost none which I like:

Preorder: Well, that might work.

Superscribers: I won't be forced to subscribe to modules I don't need to get something I expect from a PF Subscription.

Actually, this one would seriously piss me off. I'm not a PF Modules subscriber because my interest started after the line took off and they never offered a latecomer's offer like they did with Planet Stories (which made me subscribe to Planet Stories).

That one would be a really big mistake.

So let's hope they stick to a rules subscription.


Cpt_kirstov wrote:
Last year the Beta sold out by 10AM friday, can you imagine how much business they are going to have this year?

My DM, his wife and I were there last year... He wanted a Beta hard-copy, had I not urged him to find Paizo's booth and "FIND IT NOW!" he would've been without. (Due to Cheese Weaseling and other such booth activities) He was happy for the suggestion, though still disappointed he could not find Jason B. to autograph it. I also believe the Friday batch was a smaller resupply, they had sold out on Thursday as well if I remember correctly.

Long story short, when the doors to the Exhibition Hall open day one, "FIND PAIZO'S BOOTH!" if you want a GenCon purchased book.

The big purple Paizo Golem banners hanging above it provide a +10 Perception (visual). Not to mention the longest lines (using 3 cash registers) I saw at GenCon 4 days straight other than McDonalds and Subway.

Scarab Sages

Preorder must be coming....

Look at this page:
Pathfinder Homepage

compare to this page:
Pathfinder RPG

You see the difference :)

Scarab Sages

In case you don't get my post above or it is fixed...

The top link shows that there are 6 items in the PathfinderRPG group which in the PathfinderRPG group there are only 5 that can be seen.


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber
Masika wrote:

In case you don't get my post above or it is fixed...

The top link shows that there are 6 items in the PathfinderRPG group which in the PathfinderRPG group there are only 5 that can be seen.

Good catch, thanks :)


Masika wrote:

Preorder must be coming....

Look at this page:
Pathfinder Homepage

compare to this page:
Pathfinder RPG

You see the difference :)

Along with the new cards and maps subscription, it has to be an invisible, but as yet unveiled RPG subscription.

Liberty's Edge

It was the same for a week or two before the launch poster was put on sale. I'm expecting it to go up after PaizoCon weekend.

Scarab Sages

Vic suggested we would know something in a few days.


Majuba wrote:
Cpt_kirstov wrote:
last i head they couldn't hold orders to be picked up. Last year the Beta sold out by 10AM friday, can you imagine how much business they are going to have this year? You don't want one book with your name on it to get lost in the shuffle and accidentally sold
Treebore - do you know anyone else who plans to buy the RPG book, but not get a subscription? You could buy at Gen Con and sell your subscription one to them.

No, I don't. I am the only gamer I know of within 50 miles. If it weren't for online gaming I would only be gaming with my wife and kids.


I don't care about subscriptions - I just want the damn book! Whether I buy it at Gen Con (which I doubt) or order it online, I just want the book. They are planning to make plenty of copies this time around...right?


hedgeknight wrote:
I don't care about subscriptions - I just want the damn book! Whether I buy it at Gen Con (which I doubt) or order it online, I just want the book. They are planning to make plenty of copies this time around...right?

They are planning on having around 10 times as many of the final PR RPG books as they did of the PF Beta. IMHO, I have a feeling that they might still need more.


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber
Sharoth wrote:
hedgeknight wrote:
I don't care about subscriptions - I just want the damn book! Whether I buy it at Gen Con (which I doubt) or order it online, I just want the book. They are planning to make plenty of copies this time around...right?
They are planning on having around 10 times as many of the final PR RPG books as they did of the PF Beta. IMHO, I have a feeling that they might still need more.

They'll have 10 times as many *at* GenCon. No telling exactly how many they will print, whether a greater or smaller number (than 10 times as many).

In any case, I'm sure there will be plenty. And this is something they *can* reprint if demand is exponentially higher - the Beta would just have taken too long for the limited time it would be on-sale/useful.

Paizo Employee Chief Creative Officer, Publisher

Please help us confirm that feeling. :)


Erik Mona wrote:

Please help us confirm that feeling. :)

I refuse to do that! I absolutely refuse to do tha... ~thinks~ Oh hell! That is right! I have already pre-ordered the book! ~curses bitterly~ Damn you all and your great products!

~grins~

Dark Archive

Erik Mona wrote:

Please help us confirm that feeling. :)

I'm just waiting to see the boards crash when the subscription is finally announced; The joy of a deeply coupled messageboard/cart system. Anyone got a stopwatch?

Sovereign Court

Pathfinder Pathfinder Accessories, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber
Erik Mona wrote:

Please help us confirm that feeling. :)

...if I was going I would buy between 2 and 6 copies...I've already pre-ordered 2 copies just for me!

Paizo Employee CEO

I can tell you that this print run will be the largest we have ever done by a long shot. And we are bringing more copies of this book to GenCon than I have ever brought of any one product in all my 25 years in the game industry. Hopefully it will be enough! :)

-Lisa


The hardcover book will go on sale (release) at GenCon on August 13th, right?


daddystabz wrote:
The hardcover book will go on sale (release) at GenCon on August 13th, right?

Arrgh must build time machine to take me to the 13th of August so I can buy PRPG.....

Or I can throw a toddler tantrum ..... I want it NOW NOW NOW NOW pleeease please pretty please.

Or I can try incessant nagging
Can I have one now, Can I have one now, Can I have one now, Can I have one now, Can I have one now, Can I have one now, Can I have one now, Can I have one now, Can I have one now,Can I have one now, Can I have one now, Can I have one now, Can I have one now, Can I have one now, Can I have one now.

Scarab Sages

Erik Mona wrote:

Please help us confirm that feeling. :)

Bring out your subscription and you will see Eric. I believe lots of folks are waiting for that over preordering.


So the day of the release at GenCon will indeed be August 13th, right?

Paizo Employee Director of Game Development

Masika wrote:
Erik Mona wrote:

Please help us confirm that feeling. :)

Bring out your subscription and you will see Eric. I believe lots of folks are waiting for that over preordering.

I know I am, in addition to picking one up at GenCon.


daddystabz wrote:
So the day of the release at GenCon will indeed be August 13th, right?

You going to be at GenCon?


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber
vagrant-poet wrote:
Masika wrote:

Preorder must be coming....

Look at this page:
Pathfinder Homepage

compare to this page:
Pathfinder RPG

You see the difference :)

Along with the new cards and maps subscription, it has to be an invisible, but as yet unveiled RPG subscription.

Or... it's the "Preview Edition" for distributors. Either way, subscription is coming!


Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Society Subscriber
Masika wrote:
Erik Mona wrote:

Please help us confirm that feeling. :)

Bring out your subscription and you will see Eric. I believe lots of folks are waiting for that over preordering.

Me for one. If I preorder then subscribe I have to go through checkout twice. I'm too lazy to do that if I don't have to. ;-)

Paizo Employee CEO

daddystabz wrote:
So the day of the release at GenCon will indeed be August 13th, right?

Correct. We will release it at GenCon and at game stores on the same day. Barring some sort of unforseen circumstances, this should come to pass. Our printer tells us that we are even a few days early! Cross your fingers!

-Lisa

Scarab Sages

Yeah! :)

We are all SO looking forward for this. Subscription and we are complete!


hedgeknight wrote:
They are planning to make plenty of copies this time around...right?

The Beta was a one-time thing. It kinda has an expiration date - once the final book is there, the beta won't be needed or supported.

The core book will be the basis for most of Paizo's products for several years - how long exactly they haven't said, maybe they don't even know yet, exactly.

So it's in their best interest to keep that one available.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Masika wrote:

In case you don't get my post above or it is fixed...

The top link shows that there are 6 items in the PathfinderRPG group which in the PathfinderRPG group there are only 5 that can be seen.

Our item-count thingies are not always as reliable as I'd like.

Scarab Sages

*nudge nudge* *wink wink*

I hear you Vic. :)

Dark Archive

Erik Mona wrote:

Please help us confirm that feeling. :)

If shipping rates to Europe would not be that high (no fault of Paizo) I, as well as my friend would gladly have ordered directly from Paizo. Unfortunately the shipping cost is almost exactly the same as the book itself. Even ordering 3 or 4, the cost for the shipment is in no relation to the price of the book itself (cost for shipping being 2 bucks below the price of the book itself).

We kindly ask your understanding that (in this case) we, as well as othes, rather opt for ordering the book with Amazon (free shipment) or any local Gaming store (shipment being something around 5$ for a total weight of up to 20lbs (at least in Germany)).

Again, we understand that the cost for shipping is figured by the shipping company, not by Paizo.

We do hope that you folks at Paizo will find some comfort in knowing that we are ordering the PF-RPG, even though it will not be directly from Paizo themselves. We are sure that you folks will forgive us that tiny bit of selfishness. (please just ensure that retailers like Amazon (Europe and other Countries) and our local stores receive their shares of the book on time (Perfect would be the same time as do shops in the US)).

Yours truly, on behalf of all Pathfinder-Fans overseas of the US, (being sure that you will sell lots of the Rules to lots of residentd of any country outside of the US)

Joerg

Scarab Sages

I have to agree with Devlin. I have done some quoting here in Australia and I was genuinely surprised at the cost. It will cost the same to get the PFRPG as it does to get the PF Campaign book.

Go figure.


A local proxy would have helped.

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