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Top Ten Reasons:

1. ITS THE SAME. Bleach, Naruto, Pokemon, you name it, the concept is basically the same. Boy vs. Bad things. Sometimes they switch it up with...a Girl! And she has Magic Powers! Lame.

2. Reused scenes. I mean, they even reuse scenes in some movies! How lazy is that?

3. Long, drawn out action/fight scenes, also includes 1 and 2. They take the entire episode, and sometimes NOTHING HAPPENS. Here's how it goes: The protagonist and the enemy face off. Enemy says something, making protagonist angry, protagonist attacks. 1 of 2 things happen: a)protagonist woops some ass, catching enemy offguard, fight either ends or enemy shows secret move he has never used before but will now use. b)protagonist does no damage whatsoever to the seemingly invicible opponent.

Whatever the outcome, the protagonist goes into a long winded account of what just happened. The oppponent also throws in a few comments, possibly stupidly revealing flaw in his fighting style.

Fight begins again! repeat ad nauseum, if it is a "boss" fight, loook forward to at least 3 episodes dedicated solely to the battle, one of which will always be a flashback to the opponents life, explaining why the opponent MUST fight protagonist.

4. The protagonist can be hacked at by a thousand blades at once, but will heroically stand up and continue to fight. However, if the same move is used on anyone other than the main characters, it means instant death.

5. Crappy episodes that happen when the anime catches up to the manga.

6. The protagonist is the MOST POWERFUL person ever. EVER. No-one can stand in his/her way for long, no matter how powerful or seemingly unstoppable they are. They can die, but will, without fail, be brought back to life somehow. And become more powerful than ever.

7. The protagonist has a high self-esteem, possibly stemming from 4 and 6. However, they have a tragic past that never haunts them unless it is needed as a foil for the plot.

8. Misplaced characters. There's a Jar-Jar in every anime.

9. As with number 4, powers that SHOULD kill the opponent, conveniently don't work when they are needed. I see it coming every time, why doesn't the protagonist wise up too?

10. Finally, stupid, incredibly convoluted plots that have an outcome that doesn't make any sense whatsoever, and breaks every rule the anime originally established that made it interesting in the first place.

And that is my list. What is yours?


This is anime, friend. It's meant to be very formulaic, which is why when things that fly in the face of convention come out it quickly rises to the top of its genre. Look for things that run against the grain or poke fun at the lingua franca- Mysterious Girlfriend X, Death Note, Berzerk(to an extent), Now and There Here and Then, Paranoia Agent, Kino's Journey(to an extent), Godannar(for the super robot genre), Gundam 00(can't believe I suggested that one, but yeah..it's different)...the list goes on. Don't hate. Appreciate. This can be part of your growing process as a fan...or not. Check out the elf fatigue thread for something similar regarding RPGs.

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Stupid looking art style.
Prepubescent kid wielding a 50 lb weapon with the skill of a master.
Prepubescent kid beating up a veteran martial artist who has mastery of several styles of MA.
Prepubescent kid as a hero.
Prepubescent kids.


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It all depends on what genre you're into. I'm more into the science fiction/mecha style anime than anything else, which is a different breed than Bleach or Naruto. Of course, there are shows that break the mold, such as Cowboy Bebep, perhaps one of the handful of series that I cannot find any fault with.

But I do have my own pet peeves about several of the all-too true stereotypes that find their way in a lot of the mecha anime shows. Here's my list:

1. The main protagonist has a tragic past, or is disturbed (or emo, whichever) in someway. I understand the idea that the underdog that reaches his/her potential is supposed to represent epic heroism, but seriously, it's WAY overdone. And the fact they never seem to be over 20 years old...

2. The experienced character/mentor dies. Typically happens to drive the seriousness of the situation home, or allow the main protagonist to take the spotlight and carry the torch, but isn't there a better way to shift the attention to the main character? Sadly, all of my favorite characters end up in this category.

3. The master of the puppets (the REAL bad guys behind the scene). Just how many secret organizations are there in a anime series? And why is there always someone they report to? There never seems to be a real nemesis anymore. I think Gundam Wing and SEED Destiny are prime examples of this.

4. The hidden conspiracy. This is linked to item 3 above, but everything, including the protagonist's tragic past, is linked to the all-encompassing conspiracy. <Yawn> Okay whatever, the hero's enemy is actually a long lost sibling, or clone, or best friend. Next please.

5. The more powerful machine is revealed towards the end of the series. Okay, I'm a big geek for this kind of stuff, but it's become a horrible stereotype of mecha anime (Gundam SEED Destiny again is prime offender). I can see upgrades or even newer mecha, but why the ubersuperweapons? Typically, the characters are in battle against each of their respective nemesis, not wiping out entire fleets.

6. The love interest dies. Again, a Romeo and Juliet tragedy. In the original Gundam (or say, Zeta Gundam for that matter), this was fine, but nearly thirty years later, this cliche plot twist is abused beyond belief.

Anyhow, I could go on and on, regarding love triangles, the so-called "cool" villains, the mascot characters, etc. Ulimately, these are things that are characterisitic of anime, and it's probably not going away.

But I'll pitch out one good series that uses a lot of the tried-and-true mechanics of mecha anime and its predecessors. If you can buy the DVDs (or have access or VeohTV), check out Macross Frontier sometime. Good stuff.


It's been said before and it will be said again: Don't worry, you're just becoming a discerning consumer. It looks like most of your complaints are about some of the most common tropes in shonen. Maybe you should give a different genre a try.


I enjoy One Peice for its ability to suprise me, even if it follows the Shonen formula. I was not expecting a supporting character to appear bearing an appearance similar to a certain Frank N. Furter. Got a chuckle out of me, and thats good enough for me.

It all really depends on what you want out of your viewing time. Action? Comedy? Romance? To this day, the origional Oh My Goddess series makes me shed a tear. Vandread, while abounding with fanservice, has some great moments in both action and drama. Seto no Harayume is a congealed manifestation of insanity, and I have to pause the episode every 3 minutes to get my breath back from laughing. Soul Eater has given me interesting ideas for magic weapons in my campaign.

Hating anime is about as broad a term as hating paperback novels. The diversity of genre within that category is rather broad. If you can honestly claim you hate the entire category, and not just a genre within it, then honestly you should stop wasting your time on something you hate, and find another hobby to pursue. But if its just aspects of a certain genre, and from your post it seems like it is mostly the Shonen genre, then you should easily find things to refresh your interest.

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It has been my experience that if you just do a little research before trying out a new show you will get better results.

Some recomendations for shows that are not quite so formulaic a DragonBall Z:

Cowboy Bebop

Witchhunter Robin

Death Note

Azumanga Daioh

Grave of the Fireflies (very depressing)


The Black Bard wrote:

I enjoy One Peice for its ability to suprise me, even if it follows the Shonen formula. I was not expecting a supporting character to appear bearing an appearance similar to a certain Frank N. Furter. Got a chuckle out of me, and thats good enough for me.

It all really depends on what you want out of your viewing time. Action? Comedy? Romance? To this day, the origional Oh My Goddess series makes me shed a tear. Vandread, while abounding with fanservice, has some great moments in both action and drama. Seto no Harayume is a congealed manifestation of insanity, and I have to pause the episode every 3 minutes to get my breath back from laughing. Soul Eater has given me interesting ideas for magic weapons in my campaign.

Hating anime is about as broad a term as hating paperback novels. The diversity of genre within that category is rather broad. If you can honestly claim you hate the entire category, and not just a genre within it, then honestly you should stop wasting your time on something you hate, and find another hobby to pursue. But if its just aspects of a certain genre, and from your post it seems like it is mostly the Shonen genre, then you should easily find things to refresh your interest.

Bard, you are officially cool peoples. I thought my friend and I were the only ones who loved Vandread, I'm glad to see I'm wrong on that one. I'm not into One Piece too much, but I'm there with you at getting teary at Oh! My Goddess...gets me choked up even today.


Jared Ouimette wrote:


1. ITS THE SAME. Bleach, Naruto, Pokemon, you name it, the concept is basically the same. Boy vs. Bad things. Sometimes they switch it up with...a Girl! And she has Magic Powers! Lame.

What the heck are you talking about? Stop watching boring anime.

Watch the interesting stuff instead.

You can easily spot the interesting spot, since it has a different premise:

Schoolgirl(s) vs. Tentacled Demonic Entity.

Seriously, that never gets old. :D

There's even movies with actual actors (well, actual human beings, your call whether you want to consider them actors...) that are like that.


Wicht wrote:


Azumanga Daioh

That show's just plain weird. But lots of hilarious scenes.

Youtube has some of them:

I love little girls
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Scarab Sages

More stuff to hate about anime

Giant robots.
Giant robots that merge together and transform into even larger robots.
Tentacle monsters.
Tentacle monsters that have an hard on for prepubescent schools girls.
Demons that have an hard on for prepubescent schools girls.
Prepubescent schoolgirls that are better endowed than Tyra Banks.
outrageously spiky hair.
Pink, purple, green hair.
Pink, purple or red eye color.
Giant monsters.
Giant monsters controlled by prepubescent kid.

Scarab Sages

Stuff to love about anime

Stories you would never see published in the US
Ocasional epic story that changes how you view scf-fi/fantasy
character ideas that you can rip off for your next D&D game
villians you can place in your next D&D game without changing anything
Bad translations that make you laugh til you piss yourself


Ubermench wrote:

More stuff to hate about anime

Giant robots.
Giant robots that merge together and transform into even larger robots.
Tentacle monsters.
Tentacle monsters that have an hard on for prepubescent schools girls.
Demons that have an hard on for prepubescent schools girls.
Prepubescent schoolgirls that are better endowed than Tyra Banks.
outrageously spiky hair.
Pink, purple, green hair.
Pink, purple or red eye color.
Giant monsters.
Giant monsters controlled by prepubescent kid.

All of these save the last two are on the wrong list.


Wicht wrote:

It has been my experience that if you just do a little research before trying out a new show you will get better results.

Some recomendations for shows that are not quite so formulaic a DragonBall Z:

Cowboy Bebop

Witchhunter Robin

Death Note

Azumanga Daioh

Grave of the Fireflies (very depressing)

Also check out:

Dominion: Tank Police
Project A-ko, Ranma1/2
Akira
Gunsmith Cats
Dirty Pair
Ninja Scroll

Ok. Those are all old anime, but they are still good (IMHO).


I'll third Vandread, a good solid anime. And recommend EXCEL SAGA, it parodies everything you have said you dislike and is absolutely hilarious.


GAAAHHHH wrote:


Also check out:
Dominion: Tank Police
Project A-ko, Ranma1/2
Akira
Gunsmith Cats
Dirty Pair
Ninja Scroll

Ok. Those are all old anime, but they are still good (IMHO).

No school like the old school. Gunsmith Cats is good reading, and Dirty Pair Flash is actually a good unrelated sequel. Long story short, you're right up there with Bard, GAAAAAAAAAAAH


I feel your pain, Jared. The only animes I know that are worth watching for more than a few minutes are Miyazaki movies. Most of them, at least. I'm sure there is other good anime though.

Scarab Sages

Freehold DM wrote:
Ubermench wrote:

More stuff to hate about anime

Giant robots.
Giant robots that merge together and transform into even larger robots.
Tentacle monsters.
Tentacle monsters that have an hard on for prepubescent schools girls.
Demons that have an hard on for prepubescent schools girls.
Prepubescent schoolgirls that are better endowed than Tyra Banks.
outrageously spiky hair.
Pink, purple, green hair.
Pink, purple or red eye color.
Giant monsters.
Giant monsters controlled by prepubescent kid.

All of these save the last two are on the wrong list.

Isn't Moble suit Gandum anime what about Voltron. I remember Inashu having tentacle monsters and demons that are fixated on the super model schoolgirl. Yu-gi-ho Has spiky blond hair with purple high lights. All the above example are features of just about every anime ever made.

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I can agree a few thing here and there, but the number one reason to hate anime...

FILLER EPISODES

99.9% of the times these are crap. And even if they do a good filler it goes on wwwwaaaaayyyyy to long.


Lazaro wrote:

I can agree a few thing here and there, but the number one reason to hate anime...

FILLER EPISODES

99.9% of the times these are crap. And even if they do a good filler it goes on wwwwaaaaayyyyy to long.

You must mean the recent episodes of Bleach. :-P

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Davi The Eccentric wrote:
It's been said before and it will be said again: Don't worry, you're just becoming a discerning consumer. It looks like most of your complaints are about some of the most common tropes in shonen. Maybe you should give a different genre a try.

Yeah. That top ten list is but a narrow slice of the genre. It's like saying "Friends" and its imitators represented all American entertainment.

Check out Beck, Grave of the Fireflies, Hikaru No Go, and Now and Then, Here and There.

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Disenchanter wrote:
Lazaro wrote:

I can agree a few thing here and there, but the number one reason to hate anime...

FILLER EPISODES

99.9% of the times these are crap. And even if they do a good filler it goes on wwwwaaaaayyyyy to long.

You must mean the recent episodes of Bleach. :-P

Well Bleach and a few others. My biggest thing with Bleach is showing a few episodes of canon material then going into filler (The New Captain Arc). Then doing somemore canon episodes then filler again (two EXTREMELY stupid episodes about that princess for the captain arc playing soccer). Then we get the EXTREMELY awesome Turning Back the Pendulum Arc only to end with Karakuraizer! (Now I will say this was short and sweet. And Don Kanonji, while stupid, brought a smile to my face. Oh and Urahara threating to electricute Kon if he didn't do as instructed.

Now we leave this filler behind and turn to the Battle of Karakura Town. But I know it won't be long till filler intervines once more. Not a lot of chapters seperate this from the current manga.

While I go a rant about this... Bount Arc sucked, so did waiting for Naruto after all that filler hit, before Shippuudden started. And the current Naruto:Shippuuden filler really bites. Not because it came so suddenly, but because lately I noticed they'll throw canon material into the filler... grrr... Have since stopped watching. I'll just wait till I get the All-Filler Clear signal.

But I will say I'm glad Fullmetal Alchemist is back! I loved the first series. Though I didn't like the ending to the anime or the Conquerer of Shambala. So far (only 2 episodes) it looks awesome


Ubermench wrote:

More stuff to hate about anime

Giant robots.
Giant robots that merge together and transform into even larger robots.
Tentacle monsters.
Tentacle monsters that have an hard on for prepubescent schools girls.
Demons that have an hard on for prepubescent schools girls.
Prepubescent schoolgirls that are better endowed than Tyra Banks.
outrageously spiky hair.
Pink, purple, green hair.
Pink, purple or red eye color.
Giant monsters.
Giant monsters controlled by prepubescent kid.

Giant Robots = Transformers.

Giant robots that merge = More Transformers.
Overly endowed prepubescent girls = Excel Saga inverts this trope so hard it makes your eyes spin in their sockets.
Various hair comments = more normal than what I see at the local mall.
Eye colors = and your posting on a D&D board?
Giant monsters = see above comment.
Giant monsters controlled by prepubescent kid = see above post. So many sorcerors and druids with minimum starting ages crying out in anger!

I kid actually. I've watched more anime than most, and even I can get burnt out on certain aspects of the overall genre. Lets see, what comes to mind off the top of my head that contains none of these components? City Hunter. Or, in a different direction, Strike Witches (warning, panty shots abound like you wouldnt beleive).

But yeah, what you've commented on is totally par for course if your watching stuff like To-Love-Ru, Naruto, DBZ, or a lot of the stuff aimed at mainstream 11-19 year old males. I'm likewise sure you could come up with a similar list of critiques of the content of the shows on MTV2 that would not neccessarily overlap into shows on channels like Sci-Fi, Commedy Central, Discovery Channel, and Showtime.

Scarab Sages

To OP, and (most of) the others on this thread:

What, are you all six years old?

Those aren't stories, they're extended toy adverts.


Ubermench wrote:

More stuff to hate about anime

Tentacle monsters that have an hard on for prepubescent schools girls.
Demons that have an hard on for prepubescent schools girls.
Prepubescent schoolgirls that are better endowed than Tyra Banks.

The only shows I've ever seen that contain the first three items are of the more ...adult variety. The fourth is conpulsory in those sort of shows.

Ubermench wrote:

Outrageously spiky hair.

Pink, purple, green hair.
Pink, purple or red eye color.
Giant monsters.
Giant monsters controlled by prepubescent kid.

Pink eyes? New to me. Anyway, I really don't notice the hair and eyes anymore. It's window dressing and shorthand, like bad guys with pale skin and goatees or heroes with mullets.

Ubermench wrote:

Giant robots.

Giant robots that merge together and transform into even larger robots.
Giant monsters.
Giant monsters controlled by prepubescent kid.

Those are pluses in my book.

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Part of the problem you are seeing in Anime is the same that Hollywood is dealing with.

Production costs have become high enough that the bean-counters are pushing the creative process. And such individuals tend to be "conservative" creatively, so they tend to push what has worked in the past.

This is why you are seeing so much Anime that is just a repackage of themes from previously successful Anime. (And why Hollywood has become so adicted to remakes.)

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KaeYoss wrote:
Wicht wrote:


Azumanga Daioh

That show's just plain weird. But lots of hilarious scenes.

Does it say more about me that I did not think it that weird or you that you did?

Liberty's Edge

I don't know if it actually counts as anime, but Avatar: The Last Airbender seems to defy a lot of those conventions.

Aang is the destined hero, but his powers are still developing and sporatic at best for most of the series. He spends a lot of time running from trouble rather than trying to confront it head-on.

Rather than being lots of "big boss" battles, the series builds up to one battle that you know is coming from the very first episode. Some call it predictable, others see it as the culmination of a true Hero's Journey.

There are lots of pre-pubescent female characters, none of whom are outrageously busty or dress in revealing clothing. All of them are intelligent and competent.

The comic-relief characters, Sokka and Iroh, actually have valuable skills.

No one has pink, purple or green hair.

I know some folks dismiss it out of hand as a "kiddie show." But it seems to me that they dismiss it for the lack of the offending features mentioned by the original poster.


What is the problem people have with random hair color and large breasts? This IS a D&D themed message board after all- many(though not all) characters I have encountered have had strange hair, large breasts or some combination thereof. Ah well...

Has any checked out the 2009/Spring anime thread a few doors down? Check that out before passing judgement, there seems to be a lot of promising new stuff, especially Guin Saga, which is a VERY old series that has only recently garnered an attached anime. I'd be very much interested in getting opinions on the anime listed there.

And yes, Avatar is a GREAT show.

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Wicht wrote:

It has been my experience that if you just do a little research before trying out a new show you will get better results.

Some recomendations for shows that are not quite so formulaic a DragonBall Z:

Cowboy Bebop

Witchhunter Robin

Death Note

Azumanga Daioh

Grave of the Fireflies (very depressing)

Martian Successor Nadesico. It is very formulaic, but for the purpose of poking fun of those very formulas. Think of it as an anime version of Galaxy Quest.


David Fryer wrote:
Martian Successor Nadesico. It is very formulaic, but for the purpose of poking fun of those very formulas. Think of it as an anime version of Galaxy Quest.

I would agree, but imo, Nadesico came out at the wrong time. To me, it was less of a parody and more of an attempt to redefine the super robot genre through the lens of a show within a show with a few humorous parts. Mind you, I didn't care for Nadesico overmuch, so that may be coloring my opinion.

Scarab Sages

Bring back the classics like Starblazers (spaceship Yomoto), Robotech (yes I know giants transforming robots but they were cool) and G-Force (Gatachman).


Ubermench wrote:
Bring back the classics like Starblazers (spaceship Yomoto), Robotech (yes I know giants transforming robots but they were cool) and G-Force (Gatachman).

Check out Macross Frontier(or Macross 7 if it's been a VERY long time since you've watched Robotech) and the '95 Gatchaman OVA. They may hearten you a bit.

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KaeYoss wrote:
What the heck are you talking about? Stop watching boring anime.

I have to agree. While I've certainly seen a lot of anime with elements of what the OP is talking about, I don't think you can anymore say "Anime is dumb because..." than you can say "Paintings are dumb because...."

That being said, I just finished watching the series Desert Punk over the weekend and gawd was that ever a case of the journey being way more fun than the destination. Fun little series, cool characters, some really funny dialogged, but a conclusion that's just a little: "Oh... it's... over."

Oh, and for the list of good things to watch - Duh - Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust.

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Ubermench wrote:
Bring back the classics like Starblazers (spaceship Yomoto), Robotech (yes I know giants transforming robots but they were cool) and G-Force (Gatachman).

Exactly. You are really taking me back with those.

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F. Wesley Schneider wrote:


Oh, and for the list of good things to watch - Duh - Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust.

Or if you are looking for quirky and a little naughty, try "Those Who Hunt Elves."

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Freehold DM wrote:
Ubermench wrote:
Bring back the classics like Starblazers (spaceship Yomoto), Robotech (yes I know giants transforming robots but they were cool) and G-Force (Gatachman).
Check out Macross Frontier(or Macross 7 if it's been a VERY long time since you've watched Robotech) and the '95 Gatchaman OVA. They may hearten you a bit.

I liked the Gatchaman OAV. I haven't seen Macross 7, but I've seen the mecha designs and I love them, particularly the Sturmvogel. I used the image as the basis for a transforming Aesti in my BESM Nadesico campaign.

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Give Escaflowne a try (yes I know it has giant robots)

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Kevin Mack wrote:
Give Escaflowne a try (yes I know it has giant robots)

Just don't confuse it with Evangelion.


Add Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex to the list above of great anime. Both seasons, even. When we bother with giant robots, they're highly amusing (Tachikomas). The lead female may be busty, but she's a serious character despite her appearance.

A little further down I'd put Fate/Stay Night. We have some of the common tropes (purple hair comes up; several well-endowed teenage girls). But our hero is actually not that competent throughout the series and survives because of several of said girls. No giant robots either!

And to add to the classics list, the original Vampire Hunter D. Not quite as good as Bloodlust, but still lots of fun.


joela wrote:
Check out Beck, Grave of the Fireflies, Hikaru No Go, and Now and Then, Here and There.

After seeing Joela mention these in a couple of threads, I started to look into them.

What I can say is; not for everyone.

Make no mistake, that isn't a comment on quality.

I started watching Grave of the Fireflies, couldn't get into it. I'll have to try again later. There was something about it that was off putting... But I can't put my finger on it. Could just be my preconceptions.

I just finished Now an Then, Here and Now. It plays out like a Japanese RPG video game. I'm not saying that is a bad thing. But there is depth and story there that would make most American viewers change the channel right quick*. Oh, and a warning: One blue haired girl is in it, and some robot vehicles.

Certainly not your typical anime.

*EDIT: Which is why I remember seeing the first episode on Cartoon Network, but nothing of it since.

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Disenchanter wrote:
I started watching Grave of the Fireflies, couldn't get into it.

Grave of the fireflies is the single most depressing movie of any genre I have ever seen. That said, I think it should be watched at least once. It is hard to get into at first but its one of those IIRC that once you make it past the first ten or fifteen minutes is easier to get into.

For what it is worth, the movie is based on the author's own experience as a boy and it is a memorial of sorts to his sister.


Wicht wrote:
Disenchanter wrote:
I started watching Grave of the Fireflies, couldn't get into it.

Grave of the fireflies is the single most depressing movie of any genre I have ever seen. That said, I think it should be watched at least once. It is hard to get into at first but its one of those IIRC that once you make it past the first ten or fifteen minutes is easier to get into.

For what it is worth, the movie is based on the author's own experience as a boy and it is a memorial of sorts to his sister.

This was the only non-adult material we absolutely banned in club. If this doesn't make you cry, you have no soul.


Ghost in the shell in all its versions is awesome source, mixing cyberpunk, psychology and philosophy with a heroine who could only be more awesome if her name was molly millions, not to mention a truely amazing supporting cast.

Witch hunter robyn, from what little I have seen of it was pretty reasonable.

Cowboy bebop is high art animation with cool martial arts and pretty decent sci fi. It also has a truely briliant sound track and it was a for runner to firefly in many respects.

Akira is breath takingly beautiful, if a little dated.

Princess mononoke is both beautiful and a brilliant lesson in how to do a morality play with an ecologicial subject.

The many of the other studio gibli films will be the films my children grow up watching that than the s!$@ that comes out of disney.

Noir has a cool story line with interesting characters.

And that is just the relatively main stream anima. To be honest, i would rather watch good anima than most of what is on TV.


GAAAHHHH wrote:
Wicht wrote:

It has been my experience that if you just do a little research before trying out a new show you will get better results.

Some recomendations for shows that are not quite so formulaic a DragonBall Z:

Cowboy Bebop

Witchhunter Robin

Death Note

Azumanga Daioh

Grave of the Fireflies (very depressing)

Also check out:

Dominion: Tank Police
Project A-ko, Ranma1/2
Akira
Gunsmith Cats
Dirty Pair
Ninja Scroll

Ok. Those are all old anime, but they are still good (IMHO).

And:

Super Dimension Fortress Macross: Do You Remember Love? (if you can find an old VHS copy, or have access to a R2 player and a bit of cash to spare)
Nerima Daikon Brothers (it can get formulaic pretty fast, but the individual episodes are laugh-out-loud funny)
Urusei Yatsura (Takahashi's best, IMO)
Gunbuster
Arcadia of My Youth (a bit long-winded but some grat space action)
Lupin III (any series, any special except Walther P-38, which has a thouroughly different tone)
Gatchaman (Not so much Battle of the Planets)


Don't know if it was mentioned on here, but for a nice serious anime series, I have always been partial to Berserk. Pretty serious story, brutal at times, and an interesting concept. Also, since I take it you're probably a D&D (or similar games) fan, I'd recommend Record of Lodoss War as well, though you might want to see if you can get the manga for that one as well. I'm not sure why in the original OAV, they decided that Parn should be an inept tool in the beginning instead of the adept soldier he is in the manga. Still a good series though.


Freehold DM wrote:
Ubermench wrote:

More stuff to hate about anime

Giant robots.
Giant robots that merge together and transform into even larger robots.
Tentacle monsters.
Tentacle monsters that have an hard on for prepubescent schools girls.
Demons that have an hard on for prepubescent schools girls.
Prepubescent schoolgirls that are better endowed than Tyra Banks.
outrageously spiky hair.
Pink, purple, green hair.
Pink, purple or red eye color.
Giant monsters.
Giant monsters controlled by prepubescent kid.

All of these save the last two are on the wrong list.

Agreed. If you are tired of giant robots and tentacly aberrations, you are tired of being alive!


Ubermench wrote:

All the above example are features of just about every anime ever made.

Your ignorance is staggering.


A general observation: You shouldn't base your opinion of a whole genre on what MTV or a Western kiddie channel is showing.

Scarab Sages

KaeYoss wrote:
Ubermench wrote:

All the above example are features of just about every anime ever made.

Your ignorance is staggering.

-_-...|.

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