Is there a god / godling / divine being of Time? Anywhere?


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I'm putting the finishing touches on the overall design of a short campaign set in Golarion, which involves a number of investigations and conspiracies related to the vacant office of a divine-appointed Guardian of Time (and to the murder of the previous Guardian).

Unfortunately, after looking in a number of products - Campaign Setting, Gods and Magic, PF 18 for major demon lords - I couldn't find any specific deity or divine/mistyc being directly related to the domain/area of influence of time.
Some, such as Irori, are related to history, or knowledge, or law, or even immortality, but none is said to have a prominent role regarding the flux of time.

Can anyone help me out? Did I miss some important piece of info?


Well you could always stat up Chronos/Aeon. <-- link.

More about his roots.

Here are some Real World examples to base upon.

Cronus (aka Chronos, Kronos, Saturn)

Kala, the Black Demon (aka Kala-Shiva) - Brahman, Hindu; India - God of Time, death, and destruction

Kala-Siva - double sexed god of Time or death.

Kali - Hindu; India - warrior goddess of fertility and Time, mysteries, and destruction and death

Ling-Pao T'ien-Tsun - China - ruler of the second heaven, guardian of the sacred books, and the god of keeping Time

Rudra - Brahmanic, Hindu, Vedi; India - sometimes known as the God of Storms and the Lord of Time and Death

Sesha - Brahmanic, Hindu; India - the world serpent and symbol of Time

Shiva - (as Kala-Siva) - double sexed god of Time or death

Thoth - Egyptian - God of wisdom, Time, astronomy, etc. . . (of lots of stuff)

Wenut - Egyptian - goddess of the Hours

Tai-Sui-Jing - China - god of temporal Time

Xiuhtecuhtli - Aztec People, Mexico - God of fire and Time

Yama - Brahmanic, Hindu, Vedic; India; Buddhist; Tibet - (as Kala)

Zurvan - Persia - god of temporal Time and fate

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The Jade wrote:

Well you could always stat up Chronos/Aeon. <-- link.

More about his roots.

Well, I was thinking of an entity more akin to Achaekek.

However I'll take inspiration from his tripartite form, which fits very well with the concept I had in mind.

Chris Mortika wrote:
Well, if you find yourself on the Test of the Starstone, and a disembodied voice asks you your portfolio of choice, there's an opening.

I'll give it a try. Maybe as soon as Guide to Absalom shows up (blasted international shipping delays!). :D

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At one point (and in my homebrew), Pharasma was also the goddess of time. She's still sorta like that in that she's the goddess of birth and death, inferring the passage of time and how all things wind down into death or entropy.

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The Great Beyond will touch upon the topic of Time and time magic in one or two spots. I suppose with some implications upon its nature and that of Golarion's divine and not so divine beings. We'll see how it fares during development and editing, but for the moment I can't really say more. Sean, Wes, or James may on the other hand elaborate on it, but till the book is out, generally speaking I'm keeping my mouth shut unless they tell me I can talk about a topic or not. :)


Todd Stewart wrote:
The Great Beyond will touch upon the topic of Time and time magic in one or two spots. I suppose with some implications upon its nature and that of Golarion's divine and not so divine beings. We'll see how it fares during development and editing, but for the moment I can't really say more. Sean, Wes, or James may on the other hand elaborate on it, but till the book is out, generally speaking I'm keeping my mouth shut unless they tell me I can talk about a topic or not. :)

You can talk about the topic. I've given you permission. ;)


Based on Pathfinder Chronicles Gods and Magic, 'time' seems to be divvied into smaller chunks. Many areas of concern have elements of time integral to their function -

  • Abadar (the rise and fall of cities; duration of mercantile business; temporary laws
  • Achaekek (timing of assassinations)
  • Angraad (duration of a given war)
  • Apsu (peace is seldom eternal; glory is often fickle)
  • Asmodeus (all of his areas of concern)
  • and so on.

Alseta has transitions and years as areas of concern, perhaps the largest piece of the 'time' pie.

Desna has dreams, an essential component of most creatures' mental faculties, as well as travelers whom are always concerned about the time traveling takes.

Droskar due to concern over toil.

Fandarra due to the obvious areas of birth and death.

Findeladlara from twilight.

Ghlaunder due to infection and parasites.

Gozreh due to nature and weather.

Groetus from oblivion.

Hanspur from river travel.

Iomedae for rulership.

Irori from history.

Ketephys especially for the moon.

Kols for duty, some times a truly eternal burden...

Lamashtu for nightmares, as the opposite to Desna's dreams.

Milani for devotion.

Minderhal for creation.

Methys solely concerned about magic, time is a factor.

Pharasma has strong elements of time in her areas of concern.

Rovagug is similarly concerned about time - rather more specifically in approaching the point at which time is no longer a significant concern.

Sarenrae especially from the sun and redemption.

Shelyn for love.

Sivanah for illusions and especially mystery.

Ydersius especially for immortality.

Zon-Kuthon for envy and loss, rather ironic given his circumstances.

It can be argued quite readily that there is no need for a specific gawd of time.

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Thanks everyone for the insights.

I'll try to work out my original concept of a being concerned with the rightful/correct/balanced sequence of events in the flow of time with the existing information.
Obviously, followers of Groetus (and a couple of demon lords, who interfere for various reasons) are already figured into the plot.

I'll wait to see if The Great Beyond book has more infos regarding the matter... a couple of months pass quickly when there's still a ton of adventure details to figure out.


There used to be a god of time in the future, but he is doing a terrible job and will have to have been fired in a year ago.

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KaeYoss wrote:
There used to be a god of time in the future, but he is doing a terrible job and will have to have been fired in a year ago.

Damn! You just spoiled the plot of the campaign! ;-P

I'm thinking of coming up with my own design right now: after all, he's going to be dead right from the start, so it should pose no big problem in the greater scheme of things (to come).

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The Jade wrote:
Xiuhtecuhtli - Aztec People, Mexico - God of fire and Time

Xiuhtecuhtli


golem101 wrote:
KaeYoss wrote:
There used to be a god of time in the future, but he is doing a terrible job and will have to have been fired in a year ago.
Damn! You just spoiled the plot of the campaign! ;-P

Did not. I haven't written that post up there. Not yet. I will in 5 years (which is 3 years after your reply). That's how bad a job the guy did/will do/is doing/is going to have been done.

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KaeYoss wrote:
golem101 wrote:
KaeYoss wrote:
There used to be a god of time in the future, but he is doing a terrible job and will have to have been fired in a year ago.
Damn! You just spoiled the plot of the campaign! ;-P
Did not. I haven't written that post up there. Not yet. I will in 5 years (which is 3 years after your reply). That's how bad a job the guy did/will do/is doing/is going to have been done.

If the bad guy from my plot is to be held responsible (spelling?), you have been tricked into posting it by a carefully orchestrated number of coincidences, foremost of which is my own initial question about a divine being related to the time flow, and... OH, BLAST!

Well, at least followers of Groetus will be pleased. And displeased, at the same time.
But they won't really notice, 'cause their schismatic pro-active sect will be erased from reality, and all records of the bad guy involvement in it disappear from reality. Heh.


If you read The Anubis Gates, from Tim Powers, the story is about time travel, magic and many other things. Great book.
And there is a nice twist with Anubis being the god of portals... and time.
From that idea, you can add these to his portfolio. Like i did.
Or you can use that as an inspiration for Golarion, turning the jackal god in another god of the Golarion pantheon.

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