Weakening Spell Casters at Higher Levels


General Discussion (Prerelease)


There are many threads discussing whether casters overpower fighting characters past a certain level. I believe that they do, but casters are weaker at lower levels and some of the abilities given to them in Pathfinder help account for this.

I am going to suggest my thoughts on how to do this and people can discuss whether my idea is good or how to change it. People can slso post their thoughts about how to do this here as well. That way, we can get all of the ideas in one place and hopefully agree on something that could be implemented in the final version of pathfinder.

If you do not believe casters are too powerful at high levels, please do not post your arguments here.

Alright, well my idea is to increase the spells per day or memorized by 1 for all spells, accept for at level 7, where the level 4 spells will not gain this bonus. However, casters will not be able to gain extra spells through their high casting stats. This way, at lower levels, where stats are lower, the caster will not be hit as hard by this weakening, but at higher levels, when spells are plentiful anyway, casters do not gain as many spells that they can use each day.


The main issue is it makes the prime stat less important. With that said, yes casters are quite strong. Everyone else is quite weak. When the others are less weak, or we have a monster baseline that compensates I'm really not sure if breaking the only guy's legs who can pull the party wagon is wise. Otherwise what will happen is overnerfing, or far less likely undernerfing depending.


Well I was hoping this would not become a discussion about whether this issue needs to be addressed but it has.

The fighting classes are already getting a boost in pathfinder to make them more on par with spell casters the slight weakening of spell casters just brings the powers of the characters back into line, especially because casters get cool powers in pathfinder too.


Temeryn wrote:

Well I was hoping this would not become a discussion about whether this issue needs to be addressed but it has.

The fighting classes are already getting a boost in pathfinder to make them more on par with spell casters the slight weakening of spell casters just brings the powers of the characters back into line, especially because casters get cool powers in pathfinder too.

Incorrect. Unless another revision has been released without my knowledge fighting classes are not being improved. Slight number gains are not an improvement when they lose the only two tricks they ever had.

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