Winter Solstice 2012


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I'm sure most of the users here have heard about the Mayan calendar, or the Merlin prophecies or the I Ching, the Native American (Hopi for the main), the Sibyl, and even John the Baptist all pointing one way or another to the world (as we know it) ending in 2012.

The I Ching is roughly 5000 years old and predicts the worlds end via a numerical timeline that follows the path of time until December 2012.

The Mayan calendar predicted (to the exact day) Cortez's arrival.

These people are from different parts of the world, China, North America, Central America, Europe - all from different eras of time - coming to the same general conclusion.

I believe it is the Mayans that mention this more predominately than others but this is where current science agrees;

An occurance that happens every 25,800 years is the Earth the Sun and a Black Hole (which the Mayans mentioned and we've only found ourselves) algin. What effect this will have on us is uncertain.

Either it was a prophecy or an effect of the above but it has been mentioned that the North and South pole may shift. We've came to the conclusion that this has happened before. For example; Alaska used to be part of the equator.

This has been a general review. What are everyone else's thoughts?

Silver Crusade

Paul Ackerman 70 wrote:

I'm sure most of the users here have heard about the Mayan calendar, or the Merlin prophecies or the I Ching, the Native American (Hopi for the main), the Sibyl, and even John the Baptist all pointing one way or another to the world (as we know it) ending in 2012.

The I Ching is roughly 5000 years old and predicts the worlds end via a numerical timeline that follows the path of time until December 2012.

The Mayan calendar predicted (to the exact day) Cortez's arrival.

These people are from different parts of the world, China, North America, Central America, Europe - all from different eras of time - coming to the same general conclusion.

I believe it is the Mayans that mention this more predominately than others but this is where current science agrees;

An occurance that happens every 25,800 years is the Earth the Sun and a Black Hole (which the Mayans mentioned and we've only found ourselves) algin. What effect this will have on us is uncertain.

Either it was a prophecy or an effect of the above but it has been mentioned that the North and South pole may shift. We've came to the conclusion that this has happened before. For example; Alaska used to be part of the equator.

This has been a general review. What are everyone else's thoughts?

The closer the date comes the more times the special will come on the History channels.

If it happens... it happens. I can stop it. I hope it doesn't for the sake of my family.


brent norton wrote:

The closer the date comes the more times the special will come on the History channels.

If it happens... it happens. I can't stop it. I hope it doesn't for the sake of my family.

Hah! Yes, I re-watched the special which got me re-thinking about it.

I don't want it to happen either.

But, if it did. What would you do? Are you going to prepare for the possibility at all?

Silver Crusade

Paul Ackerman 70 wrote:
brent norton wrote:

The closer the date comes the more times the special will come on the History channels.

If it happens... it happens. I can't stop it. I hope it doesn't for the sake of my family.

Hah! Yes, I re-watched the special which got me re-thinking about it.

I don't want it to happen either.

But, if it did. What would you do? Are you going to prepare for the possibility at all?

We have farm land with fresh well water, probablily hunt the land, and jar veges. We live in Oklahoma, not too worried if it floods the coasts. We have guns too. Same plan if we are over ran by zombies.

Dark Archive

Adventure Path Charter Subscriber
brent norton wrote:
We have farm land with fresh well water, probablily hunt the land, and jar veges. We live in Oklahoma, not too worried if it floods the coasts. We have guns too. Same plan if we are over ran by zombies.

But do you have enough cold iron and silver for the demons and devils?

Silver Crusade

Paul Ackerman 70 wrote:


An occurance that happens every 25,800 years is the Earth the Sun and a Black Hole (which the Mayans mentioned and we've only found ourselves) algin. What effect this will have on us is uncertain.

"Where we're going, we don't need eyes to see."


Justin Sluder wrote:


But do you have enough cold iron and silver for the demons and devils?

Yes.

Yes, I do.

Liberty's Edge

He's hording copper wire.

Liberty's Edge

Cool Dec 21st shirt with a front and back.

I like it because it has UNIX, Mayan, RN and normal dates for the Big Day all printed on the back.


Silver doesn't work on Great Old Ones or Shoggoths

Scarab Sages

Paul Ackerman 70 wrote:
But, if it did. What would you do? Are you going to prepare for the possibility at all?

I'll probably get together with a few thousand of my undead brethren and besiege some living folk in a mall or something.

The Exchange

Paul Ackerman 70 wrote:


An occurance that happens every 25,800 years is the Earth the Sun and a Black Hole (which the Mayans mentioned and we've only found ourselves) algin. What effect this will have on us is uncertain.

Not uncertain : no effect at all.

Paul Ackerman 70 wrote:


Either it was a prophecy or an effect of the above but it has been mentioned that the North and South pole may shift. We've came to the conclusion that this has happened before. For example; Alaska used to be part of the equator.

No, due to neither the prophecy nor the 'black hole'. The North and South poles shift due to the fluid motion of the Earths core. The effects are predictable by computer simulation.

This also has nothing to do with the position of Alaska. That's down to plate tectonics.

Paul Ackerman 70 wrote:


This has been a general review. What are everyone else's thoughts?

That the Mayans may or may not be correct, but whether they are or not has very little to do with Astrophysics or Geophysics. Also, CERN isn't going to destroy the Earth the first time the proton beams collide.

Scarab Sages

If it happens, it happens. Theres no need to pannic and start hording duct tape and guns, just live every day like its your last and you won't have any regrets.

I like Shadowrun's take on the 2012 end of the world. Magic returns and the world just ends as we knew it.

Scarab Sages

brock wrote:
Also, CERN isn't going to destroy the Earth the first time the proton beams collide.

Even if CERN does produce a black hole it would be subatomic sized. The subatomic black hole would burn itself out a fraction of a second after it was created, destroying only a few stray atoms in the process.

Dark Archive

Yes, I personally can't wait to goblinize into a troll and really intimidate my neighbors.

Sovereign Court

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Save the Cheerleader, Save the World...

Scarab Sages

Callous Jack wrote:
Save the Cheerleader, Save the World...

The third season invalidates that statement. Oh well crappie writing seeps into the best of stories (Star Wars episode I, II and clone wars for example).

Sovereign Court

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
Ubermench wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:
Save the Cheerleader, Save the World...
The third season invalidates that statement. Oh well crappie writing seeps into the best of stories (Star Wars episode I, II and clone wars for example).

I have yet to see the second season...


David Fryer wrote:
Yes, I personally can't wait to goblinize into a troll and really intimidate my neighbors.

Sounds like someone has been playing a little too much Shadowrun. :)

Scarab Sages

[threadjack]I am looking for at least one more player for a PBP Shadowrun game, look under 'who wants to start a Shadowrun game' in the gamer connection section. [/threadjack]

Dark Archive

Which edition?

Scarab Sages

David Fryer wrote:
Which edition?

4th.

Paizo Employee Managing Developer

Paul Ackerman 70 wrote:
What are everyone else's thoughts?

It's just the coming of singularity. Flexibility is key to survival in the new paradigm.

Dark Archive

I just posted this one the other thread, but all I have is third right now. I don't think I could convince my wife to let me buy a new one just for a pbp.

Liberty's Edge

Paizo Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Companion, Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber

2012, Find out the Truth

Liberty's Edge

when the time cames i will say just 's!$# happens'

the truth is that any change would not be instantaneous or just happen from one day to the other

see or weather changes... they are not only man made (yes they are very man-made)

still... i have been repeating this for 10 years... i think i am mentally prepared... and not close enough tothe sea level :D

still we can always see what secrets the goverments of the world have stored to save themselves and let the rest of us here :P

Liberty's Edge

Dragnmoon wrote:
2012, Find out the Truth

i am not sure yet that thereis enough water to cover those mountains

the pronostics are for 100 meters above sealine


The blazar and the pole shifting I can see as being a problem, with the pole shifting being more of a problem (even though we could technically escape off planet for that one), because it'll hurt the entire time we're dying.

As for the Mayan calendar, it's a misreading. The Mayan calendar is cyclical. Dec. 2012 is when it flips over, during a time of intense conflict and great change. Maybe Earth will start over without us, who knows? I do find it interesting that it lines up with the end of Obama's first term as President, but then again, it's not all about America, now is it?

Mikaze wrote:
"Where we're going, we don't need eyes to see."[/url]

Sam Neil is one of my favorite actors; I love that scene.

Liberty's Edge

mwbeeler wrote:
Mikaze wrote:
"Where we're going, we don't need eyes to see."[/url]

Sam Neil is one of my favorite actors; I love that scene.

i agree :D

returning to topic

the Mayas said that there had been about 5 humanities... we are the 5th
and that humanity goes in cycles
when the godsget tired of their creation they clean their messand begin again

and yes the Mayan said that it was the end of an age
the next was so terrible (or at least the change) that they dared not look further

well in4 years we will see :)

if its the end of the world
i just want to have firstline seats

Scarab Sages

mwbeeler wrote:
Mikaze wrote:
"Where we're going, we don't need eyes to see."[/url]

Sam Neil is one of my favorite actors; I love that scene.

Damn skippy. He is one creepy dude. His turn as Damien Thorn in The Final Conflict was awesome, but Event Horizon was definitely one of his best. Scared the crap out of me.

The Exchange

Paul Ackerman 70 wrote:

I'm sure most of the users here have heard about the Mayan calendar, or the Merlin prophecies or the I Ching, the Native American (Hopi for the main), the Sibyl, and even John the Baptist all pointing one way or another to the world (as we know it) ending in 2012.

No, lets get links for all of this please.

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