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Skip Bayless just complimented my favorite NFL team's offense.

We're doomed!


Whozat, Cole?

BTW: poor, poor kittens (Panthers).

And the Tom Brady Revenge Tour is off and running!! Whoo-HOO!!!


What's f@#*ed up is the fact that politics are more interesting than football this year.

It's gotta be the train wreck factor.


Indeed. Typically I'd care more about politics, I feel too ill to even contemplate 2017 honestly.

However lets please keep this thread pure...please

Except for hating on the Cowboys or Falcons, we can still do that right?


Why hate on the Falcons?? They're finally starting to play up to the early hype they've had the last three seasons! Sure, it's too early to be definitive, but I must confess to feeling that their gameplay is much sharper all-around this season than it has been during early starts the past few . . . . I probably cursed 'em now, but they have a solid chance at taking the division anyway.

And the Cowboys can go __________ ___________ in the _________ __________ of the _____________. Insert any and all unpleasant descriptors, suggestions, and epithets desired. What's been said about Atlanta above can be equally ascribed to Dallas -- but who cares who wins that division?? I'll root for the Redskins before any of the rest in that lot, but they aren't even in my top 25.


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Syrus Terrigan wrote:
Whozat, Cole?

Raiders.

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And the Tom Brady Didn't Need To Cheat and the Decision to Do So Remains Unspeakably Baffling and Infuriating Tour is off and running!!

Fixed that for you!

And, uh... a twenty-point curbstomping is nice, but against the Browns? Not sure I'd be crowing yet.


R. I. P. Mike VI. You were awesome!


Grabs popcorn

NOW this is getting more interesting than politics...

EDIT: Darn it, Mike! I was referring, of course, to Cole and Syrus.
Carry on, gentlemen, carry on...


Please, everyone knows the Lakers are going to hit a home run running the end around through the goalie net to score the winning touchdown thus ensuring Peawaukee retains their world series trophy at the World Cup.

Sadly, none of that matters in Curling.


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Eh, my seething hatred of the Patriots is eclipsed only by my loathing of the Cowboys, so probably best not to expect much of a show here...


Syrus Terrigan wrote:

Why hate on the Falcons?? They're finally starting to play up to the early hype they've had the last three seasons! Sure, it's too early to be definitive, but I must confess to feeling that their gameplay is much sharper all-around this season than it has been during early starts the past few . . . . I probably cursed 'em now, but they have a solid chance at taking the division anyway.

And the Cowboys can go __________ ___________ in the _________ __________ of the _____________. Insert any and all unpleasant descriptors, suggestions, and epithets desired. What's been said about Atlanta above can be equally ascribed to Dallas -- but who cares who wins that division?? I'll root for the Redskins before any of the rest in that lot, but they aren't even in my top 25.

I'm a Saints fan...so I am permanently predisposed to hate the Falcons. Interestingly enough, I don't hate the Panthers OR the Bucs...probably because my formative years were when the Saints were in the NFC West and so I reserve all that hatred for the Niners, Rams and Falcons. Mostly the Falcons though...


My hatred of the New York Rangers remains undimmed.


. . . .

Trumped up charges getting you an equivalent punishment to certain civil misconduct is baffling to me. Sure, Commish Goofball can punish any way he chooses, per the judge panel's decision (*that's* gonna be a fun ride), but when your "evidence" is denied by improved performance following "corrective action", your case is bullhockey.

The *game* in question at halftime: 17-7
"Corrective Action" at halftime
Game final: 45-7

Fortunately for the league office, proof isn't requisite for handing down unprecedentedly harsh punishment to one of the flagship franchises of the conference *and* league. But, that zombie horse can be re-deadified easily. Moving on.

Sure, it was the Browns. Not a premier defense. Still -- 406 yards passing against *any* defense is noteworthy. Warren Moon is the only other player to do that since the merger at 39+ years of age.

Plenty could still go poorly for the Pats this season. I will root for them anyway- - i have since they were underdogs against the Bears in SBXX. First football game I remember watching.

It would be nice to see the Raiders take the AFC West. With Siemian hurt, it seems all the more likely. Though, of course, I like every team in that division to some degree.

I understand loathing division rivals (though, in Buffalo's case, it's just 'cause Rex Ryan -- sorry, Bills). I would still like a better distribution of parity across all the teams -- been dreaming of the day when San Diego, Miami, Atlanta, Tennessee, Cleveland, and Washington, to name some, were relevant in their divisions on a consistent basis.

And then Manziel had to start a fire of his own in Cleveland's brand new replacement dumpster . . . . . eye roll


Syrus,

I like Bullhockey. It's just messy to clean up afterwards.


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Syrus Terrigan wrote:
Plenty could still go poorly for the Pats this season.

Hope springs eternal.

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I would still like a better distribution of parity across all the teams -- been dreaming of the day when San Diego, Miami, Atlanta, Tennessee, Cleveland, and Washington, to name some, were relevant in their divisions on a consistent basis.

Eh... how consistent is consistent? Generally relevance comes in waves. (With apologies to Browns and Lions fans)

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And then Manziel had to start a fire of his own in Cleveland's brand new replacement dumpster . . . . . eye roll

I legit feel awful for Browns fans.


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I think there's one thing on this thread that can bring us all together, it's that Browns fans have it the absolute worst.

Ugh.

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GM Niles wrote:
I'm a Saints fan...so I am permanently predisposed to hate the Falcons. Interestingly enough, I don't hate the Panthers OR the Bucs...probably because my formative years were when the Saints were in the NFC West and so I reserve all that hatred for the Niners, Rams and Falcons. Mostly the Falcons though...

Whoa! It's like you're my slightly less pretty twin....

Also, my hatred for the Falcons burns hotter than the hinges on the gates of Hell.


How consistent is consistent?? When the pregame shows all shut down because you'd be better off flipping a coin to make picks/place bets. That's a little bit of hyperbole, there, but you take my meaning. You're right about consistency coming in "waves" -- but I'm tired of the Browns, Chargers, Titans, Bucs, Rams, and Lions consistently swimming in the Mariana Trench. There's some consistency for ya. Of exactly the wrong sort.

Here's my list of Top Five/Bottom Five Teams (likes/hates, just to be clear) in the NFL:

  • 1) New England Patriots
  • 2) Green Bay Packers
  • 3) Arizona Cardinals
  • 4) Tennessee Titans
  • 5) Miami Dolphins
  • 28) Buffalo Bills
  • 29) Indianapolis Colts
  • 30) Seattle Seahawks
  • 32) Dallas Cowboys
  • 32) New York Giants

And whenever Dallas plays the Giants, I seriously hope that both teams get disqualified, or lose, or whatever it takes to keep either from winning -- giving them both a draw is unacceptable, even.


Top Five:

Flyers, Flyers, Pens, Flyers and Bruins.


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Syrus Terrigan wrote:
And whenever Dallas plays the Giants, I seriously hope that both teams get disqualified, or lose, or whatever it takes to keep either from winning -- giving them both a draw is unacceptable, even.

I agree with Dallas.

I'd personally replace the Giants with the Potomac Basin Indigenous Peoples, but that's just me.


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Syrus Terrigan wrote:
Here's my list of Top Five/Bottom Five Teams (likes/hates, just to be clear)

Hm, think I'll join in...

  • 1) Oakland Raiders (L.A. Raiders don't make either list. My family doesn't root for L.A. teams, but nor do I have it in me to hate the franchise)
  • 2) Indianapolis Colts (I lived in Indiana long enough to acquire this affliction. Pity me.)
  • 3) San Francisco 49ers (as a boy, the Raiders were in L.A. so we adopted the Niners.)
  • 4)San Diego Chargers (Despite their being a divisional rival, I just can't hate the Bolts.)
  • 5) New York Giants (Their ability to win Super Bowls against New England DESPITE often not being that good in the regular season has forever earned my affection. Anyone who can make Brady and Belichick that unhappy will forever have a place in my heart, AND they share a division with Dallas, so their wins are a thorn in the Cowboys' side)
  • 28) Green Bay Packers (nothing against the team as such, but their fans make me want them to lose every game they play)
  • 29) Kansas City Chiefs
  • 30) Houstan Texans (Texas is a family and state whipping boy for me,so no team from Texas ever gets any respect)
  • 31) New England Patriots
  • 32) Dallas Cowboys (they edge the Patriots for most loathed primarily due to a longer history of making me want to see the field open up and swallow the entire lineup, but it's a near thing. A Patriots/Cowboy Super Bowl would be a game I didn't watch.)


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Top five
1) Seahawks!!!!!
2) Packers, I agree their fans are obnoxious, but they are completely sincere, there is a literal pall over the state with every loss.

I knew a lady my whole life, I never saw her cry until Brett Favre signed with the Vikings.

3) NY Giants, 18-1, that's all I need to say.

4) Saints, been a fan of Brees since his college days carving up Wisconsin.

5) Bengals, but not in the playoffs, or any big game really.

Least favorite

1) Patriots, cheaters

2) Pittsburgh, Big Ben is an a~@$~~+.

3) Dallas, Tony Romo is a bigger a!+~@#*, especially in High school, so I've heard.

4) Dolphins, yup, you guessed it, a@@%&&#s.

5) Packers, their fans are really annoying to have to live with, even if they are sincere.


So I guess since this is a football thread, I can't comment on the NHL opening season huh?


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Thomas Seitz wrote:
So I guess since this is a football thread, I can't comment on the NHL opening season huh?

There's a thread for that!

And you're in it!


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It's true! Hockey is a sport, no matter how small, go nuts! :-)


The revenge tour continues! Hail Darth Brady! Hail Darth Belichick!!

Man, those Panthers . . . . .

And I hate that the Falcons lost.


Cole Deschain wrote:
Thomas Seitz wrote:
So I guess since this is a football thread, I can't comment on the NHL opening season huh?

There's a thread for that!

And you're in it!

K. Thanks for that Cole.

Also Go Mountaineers! :P ;)

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How are the vikes missing these lists? (or are these all time list?)

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Syrus Terrigan wrote:


Man, those Panthers . . . . .

No kidding. :-/

At this point, "Keep Pounding" is a description of what we the fans are doing with our heads....against a wall.

I really hope this isn't another 1-15 season.


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As a Raiders fan, I know how it is to go from losing the Super Bowl to losing constantly... hope you guys aren't in the sewer as long as we were...

Pan wrote:
How are the vikes missing these lists? (or are these all time list?)

Not any die-hard Packers fans weighing in, I expect...


Pan wrote:
How are the vikes missing these lists? (or are these all time list?)

This recent string of lists has just been about individually preferred/loathed teams. I don't know enough football history to speak very well to "all-time great"-ness.

Though I could mention a franchise that has won its division 13 of the last 15 seasons . . . . Four SB wins, 2 SB losses in that timeframe. And so on.

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So, after that Oh-so-exciting 6-6 tie game, the local sports talk radio guys started discussing how overtime could be made more interesting/competitive/fair. One guy said they should go back to the old way (coin toss, first one to score wins), another suggested to shoot-out format currently used in college. Both admitted that neither was ideal, but better than the current method.

It got me to thinking about other possible options. Here is one that I think would be seriously entertaining:

Each team chooses one player to take the field at their own 30-yard line. The Referee places the ball on the 50-yard line and then blows the whistle.

Both players sprint towards the ball and attempt to pick it up, and run for a touchdown. Obviously, the slower player would then have to try to tackle the player with the ball to prevent this. Trying to force a fumble would certainly be a worthwhile strategy in this instance.

If both players reach the ball at the same time, a scrum ensues until someone has possession (as ruled by the referee). All usual personal foul rules apply.

If both players are flagged for off-setting penalties, then the process is repeated with a new set of players.

Anyway, either a player scores, or doesn't. Wherever the player is tackled, his team begins their drive (under standard rules) at that point. The most common result would probably be one player falling on the ball at the 50-yard line and the other player tagging him down.

First team to score wins.


I say we just have two players fight MMA style until one of them wins by submission or knockout. :p


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*sigh*

I like crowing about wins, but beating the Jags is... really not worth bragging about. Poor Jacksonville.

As far as ties go: They're already pretty intensely rare. I see little reason to fiddle with the rules for something that seldom ends up mattering, especially since the end result (a tied game) is hardly the end of the world during the regular season.

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Id prefer OT was settled by kickers like it is now, instead of coin flips each kicker starts at the 20 yard line and they kick until somebody misses.


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But what if everyone misses.


Starts at the 20 and goes backwards by 5 yards each kick. n


All I know is now the Big 12 in college football isn't getting ANY one in the college playoffs this year. AGAIN!

Thanks alot OSU and Texas! :p

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The Panthers are 2-5 now. Woohoo! We won't tie our record for worst season, at any rate.

I would love it if they managed to salvage the season and finish 10-6 or 9-7, but I'm not getting my hopes up at the moment (although they did look pretty good against Arizona).

Scarab Sages

Huzzah for the Saints victory of the evil 49ers!


Yeah it was a good game. It's unfortunate they let a QB as bad a Kaepernick score that many points.

I did see some flashes of a decent defense though in the second half.

*positive thoughts*


Cole, after last night's game, it indeed appears that the Raiders are not doomed. I have to admit that I'd like to see them take the division -- but AFC West is pretty solid all-around (even the Chargers have shown some spark).

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GM Niles wrote:
Yeah it was a good game. It's unfortunate they let a QB as bad a Kaepernick score that many points.

Meh. I could give two s&$!s less about that kid or his b~*%@&!~. I just don't like the 49ers. Ever since I was a kid.


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Well to be fair the NO defense makes every offense look like a pro-bowl team. :)


Oh, AZ I hate the Niners as well. I watched WAY too many losses to Steve Young as a kid. I was just making a broad comment on the fact that the Saints are the only team that scoring 35 in a losing effort is "common".

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GM Niles wrote:

I watched WAY too many losses to Steve Young as a kid.

I remember when he started playing for them. It did not lessen my dislike.

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I can't believe how well the Cowboys are doing!

GO COWBOYS!


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Syrus Terrigan wrote:
Cole, after last night's game, it indeed appears that the Raiders are not doomed. I have to admit that I'd like to see them take the division -- but AFC West is pretty solid all-around (even the Chargers have shown some spark).

True story. The AFC West is tough. The Chiefs are on fire right now, the Chargers are doing their usual inconsistent thing where they play like Superbowl contenders between losing by hilarious margins... it won't be over until it's over.

Meanwhile your army of darkness only has to contend with the sudden signs of life from Miami. ;)

But for all my loathing of the Patriots, at least they're a solid team leading out of their division. (Similar story with the Cowboys, actually... why oh why are the teams I despise in such dogmeat divisions? Well, maybe the Giants waking up halfway through the season can spoil the Cowboys' hopes, but I'm not holding my breath.)

The AFC North is a muddy mess, just like the AFC South, NFC North, and NFC West.


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Yeah, did Bradford have a stroke, and everyone missed it? Vikes have fallen apart. Cincinnati is a catastrophe -- are they *ever* gonna suspend Vontaze Burfict??! Green Bay lost to Indy.

Wild times. But, that's 2016 for ya.


Right now I keep wondering what it will take for WVU to win the Big 12.

I mean if we had beaten OSU then I'd be convinced we did good.

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