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Pan wrote:
Your "cardnials"? Jaelithe you must be quite the trooper :)

Yeah. Still didn't make the playoffs even at 10-6 and whipping the champs last month. Sucks.

Scarab Sages

Congrats to the Seahawks on their both first Super Bowl win AND one of the most lopsidedly boring Super Bowls ever. Quite an accomplishment.


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Apparently Denver wasn't ready for some FOOTBALL!


After that initial safety, I think that Denver pretty much threw in the towel and didn't really try. Lucky for them the towel was this one. So I think we all know what they will be doing when they get back to Colorado.


Yeah, watched much of it, jaw dragging on the floor.

Wasn't particularly interested in who won, but expected an exciting, close game. I'd picked the Broncos by 4, and my brother the Seahawks by 3, so I figured we could do some friendly ribbing to each other.

5 minutes in, it was clear the Broncos had left their game in Denver.

After the kickoff to start the second half ("Excuse us, are we in your way? Let us get out of the way for you!"), I turned it off.

Doesn't sound like I missed much.

Poor excuse for a game. Seattle-San Francisco was FAR more exciting.

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Jaelithe wrote:
Pan wrote:
Your "cardnials"? Jaelithe you must be quite the trooper :)
Yeah. Still didn't make the playoffs even at 10-6 and whipping the champs last month. Sucks.

Could be worse you could be in Viking country like me.....:(


I'm not sure who has a crappier quarterback, us or you. I can't stand Carson Palmer.

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So Jaelithe do you feel the same way about the Saints Coach Payton and Coach Tomlin and their cheating ways?

The whole Spy gate has been talked about a lot and it was done throughout the league. The main reason they came down hard on the Patriots and rightly so is they continued to do it. But it did not make a huge difference in the games. It did give them a slight edge but not the way it was brought to light. I still don't think the Patriots and Bill Belichick are evil. But everyone has the right to their own opinion.

Shadow Lodge

Well, at least this happened in some alternate reality where you need four touchdowns with three two point conversions to score 29 points.

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Well Jaelithe we have like 3 crappy QBs so im pretty sure we win that category.


Gruumash . wrote:

So Jaelithe do you feel the same way about the Saints Coach Payton and Coach Tomlin and their cheating ways?

The whole Spy gate has been talked about a lot and it was done throughout the league. The main reason they came down hard on the Patriots and rightly so is they continued to do it. But it did not make a huge difference in the games. It did give them a slight edge but not the way it was brought to light. I still don't think the Patriots and Bill Belichick are evil. But everyone has the right to their own opinion.

The whole attempt to ignore or downplay what the Patriots did is incredibly tiresome. They cheated. I wish people would stop trying to say, "But it was just itty-bitty cheating!" In a word ... bullsh!t. Any edge changes the outcome of the game.

Anyone who cheats should be slapped down, hard. I think Tomlin's action should have resulted in a huge fine, a lengthy suspension (extending well into next season) and an immediately-awarded touchdown, with a warning that if he did anything remotely resembling that again it would result in being banned from the league for life. It should also have cost the Steelers a few hundred grand, at the least. He's the organization's coach ... and if they take their lead from him, well ... the action speaks for itself.

As to Payton ... if they can trace back and show correlation for any injuries that his bounties caused, he and the player(s) who delivered the blow should be legally and monetarily liable. (Hell, if I'd been injured by something like that, I'd try to destroy them in civil court.) I always liked the idea that if someone delivers a hit that results in a career-ending injury and it can be clearly shown via replay that it was a blatantly late and/or unnecessarily brutal blow, the attacker(s) should also be banned from playing—ever again. You want to end someone's career? Guess what? You're done, too.

They did not come down hard enough on the Patriots. Frankly, I think the Rams should be awarded that Super Bowl.

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I hope that finally, we have heard the last about my Russell being too short to play in the NFL.


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Jessica Price wrote:
I hope that finally, we have heard the last about my Russell being too short to play in the NFL.

AMEN!!

My co-worker the entire season has said "he is too short, he will never make it in the NFL." I think he can officially STHU.

It looked like a Varsity vs. JV scrimmage. Hell, the puppy bowl was more competitive. As a 12th man I was fun to watch the carnage but I wonder what quarter did most people across the country turn the channel at?

-MD


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Jessica Price wrote:
I hope that finally, we have heard the last about my Russell being too short to play in the NFL.

He's a welcome exception to the rule, to be sure. Poise, leadership, and a rocket arm go a long way. ;-)

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Having a monster D and a collapsing opponent team goes a long way to help make a guy look good.


Pan wrote:
Having a monster D and a collapsing opponent team goes a long way to help make a guy look good.

[Sighs.]

Just had to get that in there, didn't you?

Shadow Lodge

I think he's taller than Doug Flutie was. Being short at quarterback isn't impossible, it just isn't ideal. It reduces his passing lanes and makes it harder for him to make all his reads so he has to escape the pocket more often.

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Jaelithe wrote:
Pan wrote:
Having a monster D and a collapsing opponent team goes a long way to help make a guy look good.

[Sighs.]

Just had to get that in there, didn't you?

There is no crying in football is that how the saying goes? :)


Pan wrote:
Jaelithe wrote:
Pan wrote:
Having a monster D and a collapsing opponent team goes a long way to help make a guy look good.

[Sighs.]

Just had to get that in there, didn't you?

There is no crying in football is that how the saying goes? :)

But Wilson just won the Super Bowl. Your comments makes it sound like you're crying.

Nice try, though.

Just accept that he's a good quarterback, Scooter. ;)


Conman the Bardbarian wrote:
I think he's taller than Doug Flutie was. Being short at quarterback isn't impossible, it just isn't ideal. It reduces his passing lanes and makes it harder for him to make all his reads so he has to escape the pocket more often.

I knew he was going to be something special years ago when he, almost single-handed, led N.C. State to a 17-6 lead against a Rutgers defense that was one of the most ferocious groups of [clean] QB headhunters I'd ever seen.


Jaelithe wrote:
I'm not sure who has a crappier quarterback, us or you. I can't stand Carson Palmer.

I hated him in Cincy.

Scarab Sages

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Kudos to Joe Namath on his cojones. I hear PETA got their panties in a bunch.

Shadow Lodge

Ready for the rematch warmup.

Go Backups!

Scarab Sages

I have not yet ramped up my excitement. Hopefully soon.

Scarab Sages

There is much sadness in the office this morning after the Texans got blown out over the weekend.


Your office must exist in a perpetual state of sadness on Mondays from September through December.....

Scarab Sages

Naah, we've got at least one fan of the Cowbo.....never mind. You're right.


In a completely unrelated note, Profootball Focus picked my Saints as the #1 offense in the NFL. Who Dat!

Scarab Sages

GM Niles wrote:
In a completely unrelated note, Profootball Focus picked my Saints as the #1 offense in the NFL. Who Dat!

Ha! I knew there was a reason I was getting positive waves from you. Make that our Saints!

I think, when the zombiepocalypse happens, we'll eat you last.


It's still pre-season. Let's not pick out anyone's place for the Lombardi trophy just yet. Remember, the winless 2008 Detroit Lions were 4-0 that pre-season.

Scarab Sages

Oh ye of little faith.

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I am looking forward to another football season hoping the Patriots revamp defense is going to be as good as I think it will be.

Scarab Sages

The Somerset Patriots?


Go Bungles. No I did not make a typo.


Here's to hoping the Niners christen Levi Stadium with the Super Bowl. It'd be a great way to start a new legacy.


My Bucs will not Suck
My Bucs will not Suck
My Bucs will not Suck......

Scarab Sages

This thread did not see a lot of action this season. I partly blame myself. I hardly watched any football this year.

However, with the Superbowl coming up.....

11 of 12 game balls used by Patriots in AFC title game underinflated, report says

An interesting article. Of course, no real details. It could very well be that they filled the balls to the absolute minimum and the cold air caused the pressure to drop just under said minimum.

But, s@$$, what would be done if it was shown they did do this intentionally?


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Aberzombie wrote:

This thread did not see a lot of action this season. I partly blame myself. I hardly watched any football this year.

However, with the Superbowl coming up.....

11 of 12 game balls used by Patriots in AFC title game underinflated, report says

An interesting article. Of course, no real details. It could very well be that they filled the balls to the absolute minimum and the cold air caused the pressure to drop just under said minimum.

But, s~!#, what would be done if it was shown they did do this intentionally?

I'm a firm believer in maintaining the "illusion of integrity". The Pats are already blemished by Spygate. Now this Superbowl is going to come with an asterisk attached.

Could the deflated balls have affected the outcome of the game? Almost certainly not.

Will it affect the future revenue of the game as people start thinking of the game as rigged? Possibly, but not significantly.

But overall, for the "good of the NFL", I'd make the Pats forfeit the game.

Utterly stupid. The better team won. The Superbowl would be a farce. It would be marked in history with an asterisk.

But guess what? It already is. So better to have an asterisk stating that the NFL won't stand "cheating" than to have an asterisk stating that it does...

EDIT: On further reflection, another good "solution" would be for the NFL to take a very clear stance: "Both teams used the exact same balls, so it had no outcome on the result of the game." Just something that clears the stink this non-story is raising...


This is only a story because people are making it one. Underinflated balls? Sounds like a bad porno title....

How about we focus on the fact that Tom Brady could become with a Superbowl win the undisputed greatest QB of all time. And Bill Belichick can probably already claim that title...

And no, I'm not a Pats fan. I'm from Louisiana and I root for the Saints...so yeah.

However, I am an alumnus of the University of Oregon, so if the Eagles make a move and get Marcus Mariota. I'm instantly an Eagles fan.

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Aberzombie wrote:

This thread did not see a lot of action this season. I partly blame myself. I hardly watched any football this year.

However, with the Superbowl coming up.....

11 of 12 game balls used by Patriots in AFC title game underinflated, report says

An interesting article. Of course, no real details. It could very well be that they filled the balls to the absolute minimum and the cold air caused the pressure to drop just under said minimum.

But, s&~&, what would be done if it was shown they did do this intentionally?

They'll get a fine and lose some draft picks.

Underinflated balls didn't cause Indy to not show up, after all.

Liberty's Edge

GM Niles wrote:

This is only a story because people are making it one. Underinflated balls? Sounds like a bad porno title....

How about we focus on the fact that Tom Brady could become with a Superbowl win the undisputed greatest QB of all time. And Bill Belichick can probably already claim that title...

And no, I'm not a Pats fan. I'm from Louisiana and I root for the Saints...so yeah.

However, I am an alumnus of the University of Oregon, so if the Eagles make a move and get Marcus Mariota. I'm instantly an Eagles fan.

There will always be dispute. Many think Montana would have won another one or two with the Niners had he not been unceremoniously shoved out the door and forced to play for "I can't win a game in the playoffs even when my team makes a clinching INT" Shottenheimer.

Also, there will always be "the Tuck Rule" play that would have stopped this dynasty before it even got started, the aforementioned fumbled INT by the Chargers would have knocked the Pats out of that Super Bowl winning year, "Spygate", and a few other things the Pats have been caught doing. Plus, losing to Eli, twice, puts a little damper in the GOAT debate.

Montana just beat all comers for a long time, no rules interpretations or mistakes by the opposition that could have sealed the game to help.

Now, I personally think Brady is Top Five all time (with Bradshaw, Favre, P. Manning, and Montana), just edging out Marino.

Sorry, had to edit "Niners". I originally put "Saints" because of your post. ;-)


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houstonderek wrote:
GM Niles wrote:

This is only a story because people are making it one. Underinflated balls? Sounds like a bad porno title....

How about we focus on the fact that Tom Brady could become with a Superbowl win the undisputed greatest QB of all time. And Bill Belichick can probably already claim that title...

And no, I'm not a Pats fan. I'm from Louisiana and I root for the Saints...so yeah.

However, I am an alumnus of the University of Oregon, so if the Eagles make a move and get Marcus Mariota. I'm instantly an Eagles fan.

There will always be dispute. Many think Montana would have won another one or two with the Niners had he not been unceremoniously shoved out the door and forced to play for "I can't win a game in the playoffs even when my team makes a clinching INT" Shottenheimer.

Also, there will always be "the Tuck Rule" play that would have stopped this dynasty before it even got started, the aforementioned fumbled INT by the Chargers would have knocked the Pats out of that Super Bowl winning year, "Spygate", and a few other things the Pats have been caught doing. Plus, losing to Eli, twice, puts a little damper in the GOAT debate.

Montana just beat all comers for a long time, no rules interpretations or mistakes by the opposition that could have sealed the game to help.

Now, I personally think Brady is Top Five all time (with Bradshaw, Favre, P. Manning, and Montana), just edging out Marino.

Sorry, had to edit "Niners". I originally put "Saints" because of your post. ;-)

"Shakes his fist!"

My top five and yours look markedly different...Favre!? Bradshaw!? Manning!?

Where the heck is John Elway!

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I think it is hard to put Peyton manning in the GOAT conversation due to his lack ability to win the big one, he only won one. Elway won 2 and Brett Favre ... Well his Int to TD ratio is not the best.

Comparing Brady to Montana is hard because they played in completely different eras and Montana certainly had more weapons than Brady did. The time they played in there was not really a salary cap and the Niners could hold onto their good players without much trouble. As for the "Tuck Rule" and other things about Brady's play you could go into a whole bunch of circumstances which could have go another way for other quarterbacks that helped them at the time. In Super Bowl XXIII the Cincinnati Bengals lost their best blocking back and short yardage back the night before because he did cocaine. Might have been a different game and Montana might have lost that game. But he did not. they played the game and he won. The world is full of what ifs. The "Tuck Rule" was a rule and it helped the Patriots have another chance to go to beat the Raiders ... but they still needed to make the plays to win the game and the rest of the games in the playoffs to get them to the Super bowl.

As for GOAT: Brady and Montana are neck and neck. then Bradshaw, Elway, Marino and Manning. Favre I would put after them in my own humble opinion.

I won't get into the deflate ball controversy. I am not biased at all and we don't know what is going on yet.

Liberty's Edge

GM Niles wrote:
houstonderek wrote:
GM Niles wrote:

This is only a story because people are making it one. Underinflated balls? Sounds like a bad porno title....

How about we focus on the fact that Tom Brady could become with a Superbowl win the undisputed greatest QB of all time. And Bill Belichick can probably already claim that title...

And no, I'm not a Pats fan. I'm from Louisiana and I root for the Saints...so yeah.

However, I am an alumnus of the University of Oregon, so if the Eagles make a move and get Marcus Mariota. I'm instantly an Eagles fan.

There will always be dispute. Many think Montana would have won another one or two with the Niners had he not been unceremoniously shoved out the door and forced to play for "I can't win a game in the playoffs even when my team makes a clinching INT" Shottenheimer.

Also, there will always be "the Tuck Rule" play that would have stopped this dynasty before it even got started, the aforementioned fumbled INT by the Chargers would have knocked the Pats out of that Super Bowl winning year, "Spygate", and a few other things the Pats have been caught doing. Plus, losing to Eli, twice, puts a little damper in the GOAT debate.

Montana just beat all comers for a long time, no rules interpretations or mistakes by the opposition that could have sealed the game to help.

Now, I personally think Brady is Top Five all time (with Bradshaw, Favre, P. Manning, and Montana), just edging out Marino.

Sorry, had to edit "Niners". I originally put "Saints" because of your post. ;-)

"Shakes his fist!"

My top five and yours look markedly different...Favre!? Bradshaw!? Manning!?

Where the heck is John Elway!

John Elway was Jim Kelley until Terrell Davis pretty much single handedly carried the team on his back. And the Super Bowl against the Falcons was helped considerably by Eugene Robinson's inability to keep it in his pants, and the subsequent constant wave of press distraction that tore the Atlanta squad up before the game.

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Well, since they were going to eject Marshawn Lynch from the NFC Championship game if he wore the golden cleats I trust the NFL will find an appropriate response to the Patriots deflated balls.

Liberty's Edge

Gruumash . wrote:

I think it is hard to put Peyton manning in the GOAT conversation due to his lack ability to win the big one, he only won one. Elway won 2 and Brett Favre ... Well his Int to TD ratio is not the best.

Comparing Brady to Montana is hard because they played in completely different eras and Montana certainly had more weapons than Brady did. The time they played in there was not really a salary cap and the Niners could hold onto their good players without much trouble. As for the "Tuck Rule" and other things about Brady's play you could go into a whole bunch of circumstances which could have go another way for other quarterbacks that helped them at the time. In Super Bowl XXIII the Cincinnati Bengals lost their best blocking back and short yardage back the night before because he did cocaine. Might have been a different game and Montana might have lost that game. But he did not. they played the game and he won. The world is full of what ifs. The "Tuck Rule" was a rule and it helped the Patriots have another chance to go to beat the Raiders ... but they still needed to make the plays to win the game and the rest of the games in the playoffs to get them to the Super bowl.

As for GOAT: Brady and Montana are neck and neck. then Bradshaw, Elway, Marino and Manning. Favre I would put after them in my own humble opinion.

I won't get into the deflate ball controversy. I am not biased at all and we don't know what is going on yet.

Sorry, but I'm not taking "I'm not biased at all" from a resident of the Boston 'burbs. ;-)

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I know some QBs have strong feelings on the ball inflation, but I doubt that it had much impact in a 45-7 blowout.

As a Seahawks fan, I look forward to the game; it should be a good one. Some commentators say the Seahawks won't be able to match up with the Pats because they don't know what's coming, whether NE will pass, run, or come out in some crazy formation. That's okay by us. What has made the Seahawks successful lately has been playing their own game as well as they can and betting that the opponent can't make enough successful plays against a relatively simple system executed with speed, strength, and precision, and without making mistakes that allow the Seahawks to pounce with an explosive play.

Will it work in the Superbowl? We'll see...


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Jason Nelson wrote:
As a Seahawks fan...

If I can forgive Lisa for being a Packers fan, I suppose I can forgive you for being a fan of a Pete Carroll-coached team. ;-)

Liberty's Edge

Jason Nelson wrote:

I know some QBs have strong feelings on the ball inflation, but I doubt that it had much impact in a 45-7 blowout.

As a Seahawks fan, I look forward to the game; it should be a good one. Some commentators say the Seahawks won't be able to match up with the Pats because they don't know what's coming, whether NE will pass, run, or come out in some crazy formation. That's okay by us. What has made the Seahawks successful lately has been playing their own game as well as they can and betting that the opponent can't make enough successful plays against a relatively simple system executed with speed, strength, and precision, and without making mistakes that allow the Seahawks to pounce with an explosive play.

Will it work in the Superbowl? We'll see...

Let's see, four INTs from Wilson. I'd say the only reason you won is because McCarthy was too much of a wimp to go for it, twice, on fourth and goal from the one, and some idiot mishandled an on-side kick. Basically, Seattle just waited for Green Bay to implode and make their multitude of mistakes irrelevant. Green Bay kicked Seattle all over the field for 57 minutes, then got lazy. Seattle's "speed, strength, and precision" were not a factor.

Project Manager

Nope, they weren't...

...until it mattered.

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