My Pathfinder Campaign Setting Book Just Arrived


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I'm giddy and I may be offline for a while as I delve into it's depths! My initial impression (based solely upon the table of contents and the pretty pictures inside) very classy looking!

Liberty's Edge

You lucky one! ;)


Darrin Drader wrote:
I'm giddy and I may be offline for a while as I delve into it's depths! My initial impression (based solely upon the table of contents and the pretty pictures inside) very classy looking!

Darrin, please let us know more of your impressions when you get back from your "delve!" This is my #1 "must-buy" when the exhibit hall doors open at Gen Con.


Mine hasn't even shipped yet! And I'm a Pathfinder Chronicles subscriber. There must be something wrong!!! :(

But enjoy as we would! :D

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Aureus wrote:
There must be something wrong!!! :(

Relax. They have a lot to ship this week. Mine just shipped yesterday.


Insert Neat Username Here wrote:
Aureus wrote:
There must be something wrong!!! :(
Relax. They have a lot to ship this week. Mine just shipped yesterday.

This is what I keep telling myself... as I hit refresh on my email and my My Accounts page for the 4th time Today....

I just subscribed Friday because I wanted to start with SD and the Campaign setting... so I'm likely at the end of the queue. *Sigh*

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Gotham Gamemaster wrote:


Darrin, please let us know more of your impressions when you get back from your "delve!" This is my #1 "must-buy" when the exhibit hall doors open at Gen Con.

I've made it through the non-human races so far. I tried to get farther last night, but fatigue got the best of me and I crashed out while I was trying to read. So far so good, though.

Dennis Da Ogre wrote:
I just subscribed Friday because I wanted to start with SD and the Campaign setting... so I'm likely at the end of the queue. *Sigh*

You may want to doublecheck with customer service to make sure that your subscription will start with the CS. I wouldn't take the chance if it were me.

Sovereign Court

Also, Dennis DaOgre, I don't see a subscriber tag next to your name, so you might want to check to make sure that you are actually, indeed, subscribed.

Liberty's Edge

Zootcat wrote:
Also, Dennis DaOgre, I don't see a subscriber tag next to your name, so you might want to check to make sure that you are actually, indeed, subscribed.

He's posting using an alias. I'm a superscriber, as you can see by my avatar border, but my tag isn't displayed (I really wish there were some way to switch my "main" name with my alias).

Sczarni

Zootcat wrote:
Also, Dennis DaOgre, I don't see a subscriber tag next to your name, so you might want to check to make sure that you are actually, indeed, subscribed.

if you go to his non-alias page it shows the subscriber tag

Sovereign Court

D'oh! I should've realized that.


Darrin Drader wrote:
I'm giddy and I may be offline for a while as I delve into it's depths! My initial impression (based solely upon the table of contents and the pretty pictures inside) very classy looking!

Okay, I'm jealous. {envy}

How's the production value? How's it holding up?


I'm hoping this gets to me before I leave for vacation. crosses fingers...

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Knightfall1972 wrote:


How's the production value? How's it holding up?

So far the book seems very sturdy and isn't falling apart on me. The pages are what you would normally expect from the Pathfinder AP in terms of page weight, color, gloss, etc. The map is a little heavier. The art is excellent. The writing is compelling and the editing is good (I've only spotted a couple of minor issues so far, one of which is just an extra space at the beginning inside of a parenthesis, so not anything terribly noticeable).

Now that I'm several entries into the human races now, I can say that they are all notable and memorable. When the text mentions a Cheliaxian, I'll remember what makes them distinct from an Azlanti, for example, because their history, appearance, and cultural differences are enough to for me to easily keep them straight.


Yeah, patience isn't one of my virtues.

The strange thing is that I received the "download-email" for Pathfinder #12 and #13, The Curse of the Crimson Throne Map Folio and the Pathfinder Companion - Second Darkness, but no Campaign Setting! I don't want to wait another month or longer!!!!!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


Zootcat wrote:
Also, Dennis DaOgre, I don't see a subscriber tag next to your name, so you might want to check to make sure that you are actually, indeed, subscribed.

I keep my subscriber tags under wraps, it's brand new and I haven't even taken the plastic wrapping off of it. I figure if I keep it put away it will keep that new tag shine for longer. I'll bring it out on special occasions. It's not as valuable as a "Charter" tag but it's certain to be a collectable.

Insert Neat Username Here wrote:
He's posting using an alias. I'm a superscriber, as you can see by my avatar border, but my tag isn't displayed (I really wish there were some way to switch my "main" name with my alias).

Yeah, it would be nice to at least make a preferred alias. So I don't have to swap them all the time.


Darrin Drader wrote:
You may want to doublecheck with customer service to make sure that your subscription will start with the CS. I wouldn't take the chance if it were me.

Right now they are swamped. My order shows a $50 charge this month so I'm going to take the order system at it's word. If it doesn't ship in a day or two after they've had a chance to work their way through the queue I'll drop them a note.

It would have been nice to have had the option to choose the Campaign Setting and SD as my first issues for my subscribe a little earlier but it's not that big a deal. Actually if it wasn't for people like you taunting us I wouldn't be anxious for it at all.

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Rather than start a whole new thread for a single question, I just thought I would append this here. The sorcerer variant class ability (pg 50) lists the cost of using the ability as "the sorcerer is fatigued after the spell is completed," and goes on to note that the ability can be used a number of times per day equal to the character's Charisma bonus, but never while the sorcerer is fatigued.

Fatigue, by default, doesn't end until after 8 hours of rest, so how is the character ever going to be able to use this ability more than once per day?

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Shisumo wrote:

Rather than start a whole new thread for a single question, I just thought I would append this here. The sorcerer variant class ability (pg 50) lists the cost of using the ability as "the sorcerer is fatigued after the spell is completed," and goes on to note that the ability can be used a number of times per day equal to the character's Charisma bonus, but never while the sorcerer is fatigued.

Fatigue, by default, doesn't end until after 8 hours of rest, so how is the character ever going to be able to use this ability more than once per day?

When the character is immune to fatigue (as in the case of undead spellcasters) or after the character gets hit with a spell effect like lesser restoration that removes fatigue.

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James Jacobs wrote:
Shisumo wrote:

Rather than start a whole new thread for a single question, I just thought I would append this here. The sorcerer variant class ability (pg 50) lists the cost of using the ability as "the sorcerer is fatigued after the spell is completed," and goes on to note that the ability can be used a number of times per day equal to the character's Charisma bonus, but never while the sorcerer is fatigued.

Fatigue, by default, doesn't end until after 8 hours of rest, so how is the character ever going to be able to use this ability more than once per day?

When the character is immune to fatigue (as in the case of undead spellcasters) or after the character gets hit with a spell effect like lesser restoration that removes fatigue.

Yup. In 3.5, there are many ways to get around certain restrictions. Thus, additional restrictions must sometimes be added.


Just adding my 2 coppers here...
Awesome job on the hardcover Paizo! Had a longer look at it today, Ill be ordering another at the end of this month for the game table.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber

I haven't received my CS book yet, so I was wondering if someone with the book could answer the following question:

Is the bladed scarf and/or any of the other Varisian specific items in Ch. 5?

Thanks!

The Exchange

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber

All kinds of Golarion specific equipment in there, including those.

Scarab Sages

Insert Neat Username Here wrote:
Relax. They have a lot to ship this week. Mine just shipped yesterday.

Ditto. We'll all get it eventually. It will take a few days to sort all the orders out. Patience! ;-)


Elorebaen wrote:

I haven't received my CS book yet, so I was wondering if someone with the book could answer the following question:

Is the bladed scarf and/or any of the other Varisian specific items in Ch. 5?

Thanks!

Bladed Scarf, dogslicer, etc. is in chapter 5 along with a bunch of new weapons and equipment.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber

Excellent! Thank you for the responses.


Is there any reason to get the Gazetteer if you have the Campaign Setting?

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Katowice wrote:
Is there any reason to get the Gazetteer if you have the Campaign Setting?

Only if you want a very summarized and abridged reference. It lacks many of the additional discussions in the CS (flora, fauna, demon lords, prestige classes, etc.).

More specifically, the Gazetteer has discussions of races, classes, history, countries and religion for the major gods.

Dark Archive

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber
Katowice wrote:
Is there any reason to get the Gazetteer if you have the Campaign Setting?

The Gazetteer is also more of a player-friendly book, whereas the Campaign Setting is a DM-only sort of tome.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber
Katowice wrote:
Is there any reason to get the Gazetteer if you have the Campaign Setting?

I likened the Gazetteer to a player-friendly version of the CS bk. This was important to me because it allowed me to point the players directly to the Gazetteer, without the need to cut and paste, etc, etc.

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Kvantum wrote:
Katowice wrote:
Is there any reason to get the Gazetteer if you have the Campaign Setting?
The Gazetteer is also more of a player-friendly book, whereas the Campaign Setting is a DM-only sort of tome.

Um... wut?

I'm very interested to hear why you think that. The CS was designed from the ground-up to be aimed equally at players and GMs. I'm curious to know in what ways we failed to do that.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

It's because we DM's like to keep secrets from our players....


This book really rocks. There's a ton of good bits in here, that spark my imagination and make me want to run a game in the setting. Fantastic work all around.

Liberty's Edge

I wasn't going to get it, but you guys put up a PDF version, so I couldn't resist it. Definitely glad I got it. The intrigue between the different nations is amazing. The world lives and breathes, it speaks to me. Congratulations on making something truly amazing Paizo.

P.S. Isn't that the Whispering Tyrant on the cover?


The campaign setting is definately for BOTH DM's and Players.

I think the gazetteers are great for an overview of the campaign set to the players that might not want to spring for their own HC, but they would be missing out on a ton of new things like feats, domains, lotsa new equipment, etc.


Btw, I found the writeup on the Core Races excellent. I like the Gnomes in particular too.


I liked a lot of the gnome stuff - the idea that they become more colorful the more they experience is cool. Also that the Gnome language is a kind of Esperanto mish-mosh of other languages makes me grin.

I love the Mammoth Lords tribes kidnap giant babies to raise them as their tribal mascots.

I like that the Ulfen have added extra letters to their language just to have more letter than the old Taldane language. And that Draconic is a root language for everyone else.

I like that there's a section on trade, technology, the climate, time and distance. I also love the many sidebars that are rich with details that help make the place feel real and organic.

I also like that we have firearms, but that most places don't use them - the exception being the Duchy that is in a no-magic zone. That one picture we had with the guys with rifles and all is now explained.

The little class-substitution features are also nice for world-building.


small nitpick about the intro section ...

While it was nice to have Rob Kuntz and RA Salvatore write something in the introduction, did they have to self promote/remind us of their own works in the Pathfinder book?

It read like both were reminding us of their past credits with all teh comparisons more than the promotion of the book itself.

Mike McArtor's Introduction was excellent and inviting. That would have been enough on its own. :)

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Wandslinger wrote:


P.S. Isn't that the Whispering Tyrant on the cover?

Yes it is. Knowing that really got me jived up for the CS, but I was disappointed to find out they wouldn't be statting major NPCs in it. It makes sense, though - the PFRPG final rules are yet to come, so why provide crunch that will just need to be converted anyway?

James has said there might be a book with NPC stats in it published separately. That's not a definite, but I'd certainly like to see it. I liked seeing their versions of powerful NPCs in Savage Tide. Seeing the cover of the CS immediately made me curious what ol' bag o' bones would be like. Don't tell him I called him that.

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Still browsing, but two things jumped out at me in the Worldwound.

1) Kakuen-Taka

2) A nice little easter egg for B2.


I haven't gotten this yet... can someone tell me what Ed Greenwood's contribution was?

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