Targeted Bomb Admixture + Immolation Bomb


Rules Questions


If you combine Targeted Bomb Admixture and Immolation Bomb the outcome should be that one target takes damage? And there is no splash from the immolation?

Ex- 6th level alchemist with a 22 INT doing this would deal d6+12 damage each round for 3 rounds. But since they used Targeted Bomb Admixture the immolation effect shouldn't 'splash'?


2 people marked this as FAQ candidate.

I'd like to bump this. It seems to have come up a few times in the past. What is the interaction between this spell and discovery?

An older thread seems to have agreed that they have a strongly beneficial effect together; A higher DPS with no splash. But the description of "Targeted Bomb Admixture" instead seems to suggest they are mutually exclusive, with the spell having "no effect on any discoveries that you use to modify your bombs"; An Immolation Bomb thrown while under the effects of this spell would simply be a generic immolation bomb.

Which is it?


One last bump?


Come now, it's quite important to an Alchemist. The implication would be that Any discovery used during the spell would result in a mundane bomb using only the discovery.


From what I read of the two effects, yes, there would be no splash from the bomb thrown.


How do you conclude that? The spell says it has No effect on discoveries used to modify bombs. Yet, some discoveries have the explicit purpose of altering and/or enlarging the splash effect of bombs. How can you decide that the spell trumps the discovery? And if it does, would an immolation bomb continue to deal 2x INT damage in consecutive rounds?


A plain bomb has splash, and that is what is being modified by the admixture -- eliminating the splash. The discovery only modifies how the damage is dealt. It takes the damage to the direct target to become a DoT vs DD.

While not strictly RAW, I think a reasonable reading of the two effects would indeed apply double int mod for each round of effect given that the splash damage is completely eliminated.

It doesn't seem to be overpowered to me.

However, a RAW reading would also say that the admixture would lose out to the discovery. Which would eliminate the double int mod damage per round effect.


Quintain wrote:

However, a RAW reading would also say that the admixture would lose out to the discovery. Which would eliminate the double int mod damage per round effect.

Unfortunately, while there's the chance of it being interpreted that way, it makes Immolation Bomb a risk, even potentially unviable as a discovery for certain situations. I would love to FAQ this to be certain, but am saddened that few seem to have an interest in the case.


I only worry about RAW when it comes to PFS.


It is my way of being as safe as possible, as well as understanding the balance of the game - no matter how small the issue.

I hope to see an official response of some sort.


Had this come up in PFS and I'd like to know if it's allowed.

Does Immolation Bomb and Targeted Admixture allow the resulting bomb to do d6+INTx2 damage each round?


There is no RAW for this. Though I'd rule no at my table, as only a power gamer would get mad about that ruling.

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