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There was a suggestion at one point in some thread or other I was reading that orcs and elves can interbreed, and their resultant offspring are human. The mechanical bonuses of both races are negated, as well as the penalties, the long life and short life are washed together into the average life of the human, and it helps explain why humans can breed with orcs and elves. It's an interesting idea, and one I wouldn't mind seeing used in a campaign setting at some point. Could make for some interesting RP.
In my campaign setting, the legends of the Dwarves holds that Elves, Orcs and Humans are all related as you suggest. Though this belief isn't widespread outside of the Dwarven community.
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I once played in a short lived game with an interesting explanation for races. They were embodiements of elements or concepts. Dwarves were the manifestation of earth, Elves were a mistake (errr...sorry my racism coming out there) ummm were manifestations of nature, Orcs were manifestation of war, Humans were manifestation of practicality, Halflings were manifestations of curiosity... I forget what gnomes were.
The idea was the gods were spirits of the natural world, and all life was the natural world in all its varieties being made manifest.
It was interesting anyway.
I do like the idea that Humans come from Orc-Elven pairings, though I wonder what self respecting orc would mate with an elf... >;)
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This is a reply to the post that tries to distinguish racism from "speciesism." The suggestion is that killing orcs or goblins is more akin to killing a wolves or other kinds of animals.
The argument doesn't work for two reasons:
First, orcs and goblins (and all the other "bad" races) were deliberately created by fantasy writers as a stand-in for undesirable humans, not for wolves or lions.
They were?
Really?You have that much insight into the motives of all those people from the dawn of time, and all those authors from the past century?
First, you are projecting your own racism onto their motives.
Second, the suggestion that these "bad" races are essentially animals (maybe clever or cunning, but certainly not like us) exactly echoes the racist language used in the 19th century (and before).
Ah, so now you want to project your racism onto me.
I reject that as well.Just because you have those feelings does not mean that everyone else does.
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If you want to read some racist writings read Burroughs' Tarzan of the Apes. Good story, we all like tarzan, but you really have to get past the racism in the story. It is THICK.
It is?
Really thick?So for example:
"Some," replied Tarzan, dryly. "Enough to know that each of you are right in your judgement of the characteristics of the lions - you have met. But one might as well judge all blacks by the fellow who ran amuck last week, or decide that all whites are cowards because one has met a cowardly white.
Or how about:
"Do fingerprints show racial characteristics?" he asked. "Could you determine, for example, solely from fingerprints whether the subject was Negro or Caucasian?"
"I think not," replied the officer.
"Could the fingerprints of an ape be detected from those of a man?"
"Probably, because the ape's would be far simpler than those of the higher orgamism."
Or let us just get right into it:
In the soft mud on the ank of a tiny rivulet he found footprints such as he alone in all the junger had ever made, but much larger than his. his heart beat fast. Could it be he was trailing a MAN - one of his own race?
. . .
Tarzan looked with wonder upon the strange creature beneath him - so like him in form and yet so different in face and color. His books had portrayed the Negro, but how different had been the dull, dead print to this sleek thing of ebony, pulsing with life.
As the man stood there with taut drawn bow Tarzan recognized him not so much the Negro as the Archer of his picture book ---
A stands for Archer
. . .
Suddenly, a strange doubt stayed his hand. Had not the books taught him that he was a man? And was not "the Archer" a man, also?
Did men eat men? Alas, he did not know. Why, then, this hesitancy? Once more he essayed the effort, but a qualm of nausea overwhelmed him. He did not understand.
All he knew was that he could not eat the flesh of the black man, and thus hereditary instinct, ages old, usurped the functions of his untaught mind and saved him from transgressing a worldwide law of whose very existence he was ignorant.
Yes, Burroughs truly layed on the racism thick, having Tarzan identify a black man as being of his race, as being identified more by his equipment than his skin color, as being so human as to spontaneously trigger Tarzan's mystical genetic aversion to cannibalism (he only killed the archer because the archer had killed his foster mother earlier in that chapter). Later in the book he notes that judging all Negros by the actions of one is as foolish as judging all Caucasians by the actions of one, and even extending that to lions. He then oh so subtly slips in that fingerprints cannot distinguish races even while they can clearly distinguish a lower order animal from a human. I guess he had not gotten the memo that Negros were a lower order than Caucasians, and so clearly distinguishable by such traits.
The really scary thing is how it gets worse in later books, with Tarzan not only making black allies, but being saved by them.
"Inconceivable!"
Especially in 1912.
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This is a reply to the post that tries to distinguish racism from "speciesism." The suggestion is that killing orcs or goblins is more akin to killing a wolves or other kinds of animals.
The argument doesn't work for two reasons:
First, orcs and goblins (and all the other "bad" races) were deliberately created by fantasy writers as a stand-in for undesirable humans, not for wolves or lions.
They were?
Really?
You have that much insight into the motives of all those people from the dawn of time, and all those authors from the past century?First, you are projecting your own racism onto their motives.
Second, the suggestion that these "bad" races are essentially animals (maybe clever or cunning, but certainly not like us) exactly echoes the racist language used in the 19th century (and before).Ah, so now you want to project your racism onto me.
I reject that as well.Just because you have those feelings does not mean that everyone else does.
*whew* and I thought I was going to be the one getting flamed!
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" And again, any game with no orcs and goblins to kill is going to boring. If you can't go adventuring and kill something the game is doomed. It's just the way things are. We all like hack-n-slash to some degree. (especially after work)"
I agree there is a certain mix of tactical conflict(as in chess) and visceral satisfaction(as in carving up a turkey) that is a big part of the fun of RPGs.
I don't agree that intelligent humanoids are strictly required. There are many types of "monsters" to use as adversaries both intelligent and non-intelligent. For that matter, your adversary could be a human(or dwarf) of your own ethnicity!
I am not arguing for or against "racial" profiling for humanoids, just opening other options-if one wanted to remove orcs, goblins,etc. from their game, It would not necessarily kill the fun.( I am a big fan of orcs myself and I tend to see them with unlimited alignment choices)
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" And again, any game with no orcs and goblins to kill is going to boring. If you can't go adventuring and kill something the game is doomed. It's just the way things are. We all like hack-n-slash to some degree. (especially after work)"
I agree there is a certain mix of tactical conflict(as in chess) and visceral satisfaction(as in carving up a turkey) that is a big part of the fun of RPGs.
I don't agree that intelligent humanoids are strictly required. There are many types of "monsters" to use as adversaries both intelligent and non-intelligent. For that matter, your adversary could be a human(or dwarf) of your own ethnicity!
I am not arguing for or against "racial" profiling for humanoids, just opening other options-if one wanted to remove orcs, goblins,etc. from their game, It would not necessarily kill the fun.( I am a big fan of orcs myself and I tend to see them with unlimited alignment choices)
p.s. sorry-couldn't get the quoting to work right -that quote was from Krome
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p.s. sorry-couldn't get the quoting to work right -that quote was from Krome" And again, any game with no orcs and goblins to kill is going to boring. If you can't go adventuring and kill something the game is doomed. It's just the way things are. We all like hack-n-slash to some degree. (especially after work)"
I agree there is a certain mix of tactical conflict(as in chess) and visceral satisfaction(as in carving up a turkey) that is a big part of the fun of RPGs.
I don't agree that intelligent humanoids are strictly required. There are many types of "monsters" to use as adversaries both intelligent and non-intelligent. For that matter, your adversary could be a human(or dwarf) of your own ethnicity!
I am not arguing for or against "racial" profiling for humanoids, just opening other options-if one wanted to remove orcs, goblins,etc. from their game, It would not necessarily kill the fun.( I am a big fan of orcs myself and I tend to see them with unlimited alignment choices)
"sub" humanoids are not the only ones I like to fight, though the new goblins from Paizo are definitely right up there now. I would do anything for someone to come out with a GOOD adventure for hunting down and fighting a Collosal Red Dragon, something along the lines of Dragonslayer.
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I know what's the actual size of an elf in 3.5, but I wanted whether there are officially any changes in PRPG.Well, we can even invent our own races. It's fantasy after all.
Red hair, yellow skin and european facial features? Why not? :D
And what is the actual elf size? The pic seems like it was inspired by WoW a little ;)
Average height/weight for a male elf is about 5'11" and 133 pounds (about my size actually lol)
So the image in the book is waaaay off. They're more like scrawny teenagers than Night Elves.
No that's the size of the Golarion elves. They put out a modified height/weight chart for the Rise of the Runelords player guide. I might've misdone the math for the weight (but only by a few pounds)
Anyway, in Pathfinder we get:
Harsk - male dwarf ranger (pretty nordic looking)
Merisiel - female elf rogue (could be caucasian)
Seelah - female human paladin (black and female, bravo)
Lem - male halfling bard (fairly caucasian)
Kyra - female human cleric (definite middle eastern look)
Amiri - female human barbarian (caucasian)
Ezrin - male human wizard (caucasian, but passably a minority)
Seoni - female human sorcerer (definitely ethnic)
Seltyiel - male half-elf fighter/sorcerer (albino)
Lini - female gnome druid (ethnic)
Valeros - male human fighter (caucasian, possibly ethnic)
Sajan - male human monk (black)PRPG has a healthy mix:
6 out of 12 are female.
5 out of 12 are distinctly non-caucasian.
3 out of 12 are female and distinctly non-caucasion.
1 out of 12 is female and scantily clad.That is a pretty inspiring and healthy representation, and a very good assortment of role-models for players young and old.
I hope I didn't leave anyone out. And good job again, Paizo!
For those of you keeping score, D&D PHB 3.5 had:
Krusk - male half-orc barbarian (ethnic)
Gimble - male gnome bard (caucasian, possibly ethnic)
Jozan - male human cleric (caucasian)
Vadania - female elf druid (possible ethnic)
Tordek - male dwarf fighter (ethnic)
Regdar - male human fighter (possibly ethnic)
Ember - female human monk (black, a good choice by Wizards)
Alhandra - female half-elf? paladin (ethnic)
Soveliss - male elf ranger (ethnic)
Lidda - female halfling rogue (caucasian)
Hennet - male human sorcerer (possibly ethnic)
Mialee - female elf wizard (ethnic)
Nebin - male gnome illusionist (ethnic)5 out of 13 are female.
6 out of 13 are distinctly non-caucasian.
2 out of 13 are female and distinctly non-caucasian.
1 out of 13 are female and scantily dressed (the wizard, the monk is dressed fairly appropriately for her role).
In a vain effort to get this thread onto a more positive track . . .
Seoni > Mialee :P
[Tarzan said:] "But one might as well judge all blacks by the fellow who ran amuck last week, or decide that all whites are cowards because one has met a cowardly white."
Thanks, Sam. As a big fan of the Tarzan books, I was going to point that one out as well.
In a vain effort to get this thread onto a more positive track . . .Seoni > Mialee ...
A knife into the eye > Mialee.
Frankly I would think a half-orc (white/black/gray/green/pink/paisly) has first dibs on any other possible future icons than any human character.
Also, for dwarves, elves, gnomes, and halflings, trying to claim they aren't "white" because they aren't human is b.s., if you use the same number of paint color on them as Ezren, they are white.
As an aside. In my own homebrewed game worlds, dwarves, elves, gnomes, halflings, and humans by and large are "mixed breed" lots. For example most humans look something like Ronin and Teyla (from stargate altantis):
Picture (woman in the front and guy in the way back)
In isolated pockets people may show more of a unique characteristics (red hair, darker skin, different nose, different hair, different eyes,etc), but most people look more "multiracial". Also this view allows players to play any character description they want, as different racial characters can spring up unexpectedly.
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Thanks, Sam. As a big fan of the Tarzan books, I was going to point that one out as well.
I got my start in fantasy/sci-fi with ERB. While it has been about a decade since I read through them all,
He gets this bad rap because he has blacks as cannibals in Africa in the first quarter of the century. The horror! But somehow the people who dig out every single instance of that somehow constantly overlook passages like the ones I quoted.
Oh, and to note, those are only from Tarzan of the Apes, the first book. Digging out similar examples from the other 23 books would take a lot longer. ;)
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DS9 and the B5 movie came out the same year, 1993 so its unlikely one was a ripoff of the other since neither was around to rip off the other yet. B5 the series premiered a year later in 1994.
Ah, but B5 was pitched to Paramount (including a series bible) years before that. You add that to the similar settings and all the name commonalities (Captains with S names, G'Kar, Lyta, Dukhat, and you really have to wonder...
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DS9 and the B5 movie came out the same year, 1993 so its unlikely one was a ripoff of the other since neither was around to rip off the other yet. B5 the series premiered a year later in 1994.
Ah, but B5 was pitched to Paramount (including a series bible) years before that. You add that to the similar settings and all the name commonalities (Captains with S names, G'Kar, Lyta, Dukhat, and you really have to wonder...
Scooped! JMS has said before that he was trying to pimp B5 to Paramount as a new Star Trek series and they told him, basically, that it would never fly because it departed too much from ST canon and introduced too many things. He finally went off and did B5 all on his own, only to find that the same year, Paramount releases a new ST series with uncanny similarities to the bible he pitched them. Thus, ripoff.
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It only made sense that since any individual of any sexuality can be good,
I don’t think many people would agree with this (at least publicly) if all forms of sexuality were included.
but definitely happy that there was another fantasy setting that was willing to embrace and incorporate diversity.
…to a point.
(A major pet peeve of mine is the use of crosses in fantasy art.
Even if an attractive girl is wearing one as a necklace?
If you really want to say something about diversity use a Black male lead. What we talked about in sociology class yesterday was (get this) "Hancock" and the non-existant kiss between Charlize Thereon and Will Smith, which subsequently lead to one of those class sessions where lots of people are shouting.
Now,a fter reading this thread leads me to a shocking conclusion, we don't use "Black" males. There's no black male leads
People who went to see Transformers wanted to see **** blow up and giant robots beating the crap out of each other and didn't give a crap if Shia LaBeouf (sp?) was white, black, green or purple.
I think some people would be upset if Shia was black. He and Megan did kiss at the end. Fathers are really protective of their daughters. A lot of white fathers would prefer for their white daughters to marry a white guy. If she marries a black guy, it’s like the black guy is taking something that is not rightfully his. She’s white, her parents are white, her grandparents, etc. For generations, the family has been “untainted”. But now (or as soon as they have children), it’s all spoiled. Unless this...
Real life example
...occurs.
If it was a white guy hooking up with a black chick, many think of that as being okay…the white guy can run roughshod over whatever. But if it’s a black guy with a white chick, it’s like a violation.
So if you expect an epic battle at the end of an adventure or encounter and you want your male dominated (or exclusive) group of players to feel comfortable controlling their PCs in a bloody physical contest, try to limit the number number of female "bad guys".
Maybe they were just expecting a really long speech. If the BBE Guy rambles on and on, you can imagine... ;)
But seriously, my character would treat her exactly the same as a BBE Guy, although to be fair, my character never does melee.
Some guys may feel like you described, but I would bet that many male PC’s are holding out hope that they can “get with” the BBE Girl, so they’re more hesitant. Also, I would think that some male PC’s would intentionally go melee (when they normally wouldn’t), just to be physically closer to the BBE Girl. And of course, after the fight is over, many male PC’s would “get with” the BBE Girl whether she was alive, unconscious, or dead.
scantily clad elves are always nice
Like this Scantily clad elf
photographed by yours truly.
Ah, the dream is alive.
Some guys may feel like you described, but I would bet that many male PC’s are holding out hope that they can “get with” the BBE Girl, so they’re more hesitant. Also, I would think that some male PC’s would intentionally go melee (when they normally wouldn’t), just to be physically closer to the BBE Girl. And of course, after the fight is over, many male PC’s would “get with” the BBE Girl whether she was alive, unconscious, or dead.
O_o Honestly, what kind of people are you gaming with? I can't express how stupid? dorky? sociphatic? that is. Heck, even 4eDMG warns against these kind of players (and 4eDMG portrays power gaming in a positive light).
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It's undeniably that fantasy litterature has many stereotypes, racial and moral ones ("evil"). Stories about "real" life can have lots of 'em, too (spoa operas). But I don't see a reason to submit to stereotypes. Me, I'd rather enjoy twisting stereotypes, so that they appear in shades of gray, over cookie cutter races and morals.
There are indications that not even Tolkeen intended Orcs as a "race" to be hated, Orc are rather a manifestaion of evil, and as such Orcs are not really fully realized beings (if you're interested I can give you a scholarly reference).
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Maybe they were just expecting a really long speech. If the BBE Guy rambles on and on, you can imagine... ;)But seriously, my character would treat her exactly the same as a BBE Guy, although to be fair, my character never does melee.
Some guys may feel like you described, but I would bet that many male PC’s are holding out hope that they can “get with” the BBE Girl, so they’re more hesitant. Also, I would think that some male PC’s would intentionally go melee (when they normally wouldn’t), just to be physically closer to the BBE Girl. And of course, after the fight is over, many male PC’s would “get with” the BBE Girl whether she was alive, unconscious, or dead.
... seriously? Is that what you really mean and expect from your group, or is this some attempt at trolling. Because if it is the former, your group scares me - and i have seen some sexist players.
As for crosses (mentioned earlier), crosses were a symbol used way before Christianity came along. I mean, after all, you can not get much simpler than a cross. :) It just meant different things than we associate with it now.
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O_o Honestly, what kind of people are you gaming with? I can't express how stupid? dorky? sociphatic? that is.
I game with stupid, dorky sociopaths. Doesn't everyone?
... seriously? Is that what you really mean and expect from your group, or is this some attempt at trolling. Because if it is the former, your group scares me - and i have seen some sexist players.
It's what I expect from some of the groups I play in. I'll allow it in groups I DM only if everyone is comfortable with that sort of thing.
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I game with stupid, dorky sociopaths. Doesn't everyone?
To a degree. There is a limit that these guys do not even challenge, some because they know they could not get away with, others because they really don't feel the need to.
And just for the internet, which never forgets: I'd kick anyone trying to "roleplay a necrophiliac" out without batting an eyelash.
I game with stupid, dorky sociopaths. Doesn't everyone?
... as long as you're having fun, the more power to you ... 20 years ago, when i was 15, we had our dorky moments, too, but all in all i'd like to think we tell the better stories now (IMVHO).
And just for the internet, which never forgets: I'd kick anyone trying to "roleplay a necrophiliac" out without batting an eyelash.
Amen.
So if you expect an epic battle at the end of an adventure or encounter and you want your male dominated (or exclusive) group of players to feel comfortable controlling their PCs in a bloody physical contest, try to limit the number number of female "bad guys".
Well you haven't seen my group which has 4 female players and 2 male players (not counting me the DM). Ever see how girls treat other girls during middle school? Yeah, no female BBEG(al) is going to get any soft touches in our group. Heck they might get hit harder than a guy would.
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(A major pet peeve of mine is the use of crosses in fantasy art.Even if an attractive girl is wearing one as a necklace?
Crosses were used centuries before Christianity. They were commonly used to represent the four cardinal points, the Tree of Life, daggers, and change, among other things. The cross is an ideal symbol to use in fantasy settings.
A nature or sotrm god would likely have a cross as a symbol, a chaos god or even a god of war. There are several ways to alter the cross as well, to diferentiate them.
I frankly never noticed the "race" of the artwork until after reading this thread.
Amen to that, Sister.
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Honestly I can only think of a couple of published adventures using a female as the BBEG. I think if it fits the story then go for it.
And any one who pulls punches cause the BBEG is female deserves to be defeated. And if the PCs get all touchy feely with her, even after her demise you might slip some brochures into their books about therapy.
Honestly I can only think of a couple of published adventures using a female as the BBEG. I think if it fits the story then go for it.
And any one who pulls punches cause the BBEG is female deserves to be defeated. And if the PCs get all touchy feely with her, even after her demise you might slip some brochures into their books about therapy.
You mean the litany of people who wanted to "reform" Nualia?
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You mean the litany of people who wanted to "reform" Nualia?Honestly I can only think of a couple of published adventures using a female as the BBEG. I think if it fits the story then go for it.
And any one who pulls punches cause the BBEG is female deserves to be defeated. And if the PCs get all touchy feely with her, even after her demise you might slip some brochures into their books about therapy.
If by reform you mean bang her dead and mangled corpse I suppose so.
nuts now *I* need therapy just to get that vision out of my head!
If by reform you mean bang her dead and mangled corpse I suppose so.nuts now *I* need therapy just to get that vision out of my head!
Call me, Krome, I'll trade you therapy for a fancy dice roller. ;)
You mean the litany of people who wanted to "reform" Nualia?Honestly I can only think of a couple of published adventures using a female as the BBEG. I think if it fits the story then go for it.
And any one who pulls punches cause the BBEG is female deserves to be defeated. And if the PCs get all touchy feely with her, even after her demise you might slip some brochures into their books about therapy.
If by reform you mean bang her dead and mangled corpse I suppose so.
nuts now *I* need therapy just to get that vision out of my head!
Actually no. I mean exactly what you were talking about: "PCs get all touchy feely with her."
Appearently in some despirate geeks minds, if a woman is HAWT then she can get away with murder. :(
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You mean the litany of people who wanted to "reform" Nualia?Honestly I can only think of a couple of published adventures using a female as the BBEG. I think if it fits the story then go for it.
And any one who pulls punches cause the BBEG is female deserves to be defeated. And if the PCs get all touchy feely with her, even after her demise you might slip some brochures into their books about therapy.
If by reform you mean bang her dead and mangled corpse I suppose so.
nuts now *I* need therapy just to get that vision out of my head!
Actually no. I mean exactly what you were talking about: "PCs get all touchy feely with her."
Appearently in some despirate geeks minds, if a woman is HAWT then she can get away with murder. :(
"Sure you can get touchy feely all you want with me baby" as I stab you in the groin and back and rip out the wizard's heart and eat it and then I disembowel the paladin for desert. "Another Total Party Wipe, and suddenly I feel all horny..."
this is all very interesting stuff... but I still think there should be more scantily clad females :)
I too agree with the Dwarf!
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Also, I would think that some male PC’s would intentionally go melee (when they normally wouldn’t), just to be physically closer to the BBE Girl. And of course, after the fight is over, many male PC’s would “get with” the BBE Girl whether she was alive, unconscious, or dead.
Poonish them. Unless they're twelve or something, in which case encourage them, because if they don't think girls have cooties, they are probably ahead of the curve.
As for crosses (mentioned earlier), crosses were a symbol used way before Christianity came along. I mean, after all, you can not get much simpler than a cross. :) It just meant different things than we associate with it now.
My favorite 'cross' is the one central to some African faiths, representing a tree piercing the horizon, with the flat plain representing our material world and the tree representing the intersection where it connects with the spirit world. Some cultures would leave gifts of food at the bottom of tall trees, to honor their ancestors (the monkeys who lived in said trees heartily approved of their devotion), and some would listen to the wind through the leaves and attempt to divine what the 'spirit voices' were saying.
You can even connect the 'stake a vampire' thing with the idea that these evil hungry jealous spirits have defied the 'way of things' and forced their way into dead bodies to partake of things of the living world once again. Planting a 'tree' in the 'earth' of the vampire (symbolically) punctures the body and the spirit 'leaks' back out into the spiritworld, having lost it's vehicle in the material world. The natural order is restored.
Some modern pan-syncretist faiths based on these sorts of beliefs still are based around gods like Legba or Ellegua, a 'crossroads' diety who must be invoked as an intermediary between the world of man and the world of spirit before invoking any other power, and the slave-owners, not knowing anything of their slaves beliefs, would see them 'praying to the cross' and nod sagely and wander off, convinced that no 'heathenry' was occuring.
Of course, this is all academic. We know that the real Iconics of D&D are . . .
Hank, Human Male Ranger (white)
Eric, Human Male Fighter (white)
Diana, Human Female Monk (black)
Presto, Human Male Wizard (white)
Shiela, Human Female Rogue (white)
Bobby, Human Male Barbarian (white)
2 of six are female
1 of six is ethnic
1 of two females is scantily clad.
When I piss my Missouri friends off they say "Oh yeah forgot you are from Texas!" lol
um... back on topic...
scantily clad elves are always nice
Like this Scantily clad elf
photographed by yours truly.
Ok guys go back to arguing about racism...
Better Question: Who is the model? :D
And, given the anti-Mialee sentiment I have seen on these boards, it is debatable if "scantily clad elves are always nice." :(
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Of course, this is all academic. We know that the real Iconics of D&D are . . .
Hank, Human Male Ranger (white)
Eric, Human Male Fighter (white)
Diana, Human Female Monk (black)
Presto, Human Male Wizard (white)
Shiela, Human Female Rogue (white)
Bobby, Human Male Barbarian (white)2 of six are female
1 of six is ethnic
1 of two females is scantily clad.
Now now, Eric was a Cavalier, and Diana was an Acrobat. They had to sell those new Unearthed Arcana classes, yanno!
And then there was Uni, the Iconic Scrappy-Doo.
Now now, Eric was a Cavalier, and Diana was an Acrobat. They had to sell those new Unearthed Arcana classes, yanno!
And then there was Uni, the Iconic Scrappy-Doo.
You are correct. I was basing my Class assesments on the booklet that was released with the DvDs. :(
However, Uni was no "Scrappy-Doo." (But, what could have been as annoying as Scrappy-Doo was?)
Snarf? Orko? Twiggy?
However, Uni was no "Scrappy-Doo." (But, what could have been as annoying as Scrappy-Doo was?)
Godzooky? Little Rosie?
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Poonish them. Unless they're twelve or something, in which case encourage them, because if they don't think girls have cooties, they are probably ahead of the curve.
I already have.
Twice.In Living Greyhawk adventures.
Actually I just offered editorial commentary, but the author felt it was appropriate and suitably amusing in both cases and worked it in.
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Poonish them. Unless they're twelve or something, in which case encourage them, because if they don't think girls have cooties, they are probably ahead of the curve.I already have.
Twice.
In Living Greyhawk adventures.
Actually I just offered editorial commentary, but the author felt it was appropriate and suitably amusing in both cases and worked it in.
More mods should suggest ways to deal with players who are being chowderheads.
If it was a white guy hooking up with a black chick, many think of that as being okay…the white guy can run roughshod over whatever. But if it’s a black guy with a white chick, it’s like a violation.
Who is this "many"? Many black men dislike the idea of white men (or any other race) with black women, even when they have a white woman hanging off their own arm. Many black women dislike the idea of white women being with black men.
So your statement could then be read:
If it was a white guy hooking up with a black chick, [white guys] think of that as being okay…the white guy can run roughshod over whatever.
[sarcasm]White guys are such scum.[/sarcasm]