Thank you 4ed


4th Edition


I just wanted to say thank you 4ed.
Your making me save some money 2 way,
1-I aint buying you.
2-thare are a ton of 3.x books for sale in the used section
got savage specie,planar handbook ans cityscape for 35$$

Thank again :)


Absolutely! I got MoI and the Rules Compendium for less than $20 for both! An awesome deal (plus, I really like 4E!)

The Exchange

Heck I got Expedition to Castle Greyhawk new for 40% off at a local shop that is selling off all of its 3e stock.


I'm making some money hawking off my old books, and I'm strongly considering selling my Dragon and Dungeon archive!

I have Dragon issues 274-359: any takers?

Liberty's Edge

I got some 3.x books pretty cheap lately myself. Since I am playing 4e I can't wait to tear them apart for the fluff.

You're right!

Thanks 4E!


I want to say thank you to 4e. Finally, an RPG I can run without having an aneurysm! Best $80 I've ever spent. In the past year :P

Scarab Sages

I was gutted I already own all the 3.x books 8-(

Could've saved myself a fortune. Ah well I'll probably have the same issue between the 4th and 5th edition.

And OP, thanks for the pointless and constructive post, really added depth to the discussions on this board.

Bravo! Well done!


blackrose_angel wrote:

I just wanted to say thank you 4ed.

Your making me save some money 2 way,
1-I aint buying you.
2-thare are a ton of 3.x books for sale in the used section
got savage specie,planar handbook ans cityscape for 35$$

Thank again :)

I had this whole post formulated about grammar and punctuation, but I kept coming back to the whole 'don't post insults' guidelines so I decided against posting it.

Instead, might I suggest you save posts like this for the "No Inherent Value" forum?

Just a thought.


Thanks 4E for giving yet another fun filled session. Thanks for getting me excited about DMing again. Thanks for making it so easy , I can pukk out a huge random encounter from out of thin air like I used to do way back in 1st edition and OD&D.


Nahualt wrote:

Thanks 4E for giving yet another fun filled session. Thanks for getting me excited about DMing again. Thanks for making it so easy , I can pukk out a huge random encounter from out of thin air like I used to do way back in 1st edition and OD&D.

Seconded. For the first time in years, we've been able to sit down on random nights and just start rolling dice and having fun. The best thing is, some of our group have been able to run satisfying sessions on the fly, having NEVER ran a game before.

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Antioch wrote:
Nahualt wrote:

Thanks 4E for giving yet another fun filled session. Thanks for getting me excited about DMing again. Thanks for making it so easy , I can pukk out a huge random encounter from out of thin air like I used to do way back in 1st edition and OD&D.

Seconded. For the first time in years, we've been able to sit down on random nights and just start rolling dice and having fun. The best thing is, some of our group have been able to run satisfying sessions on the fly, having NEVER ran a game before.

Thirded!

Our group is having a blast with 4E. Best $$$ we ever spent! With the streamlined rules, we've actually been able to roleplay more and get into some fun character development. Thanks 4E!


Tom Qadim wrote:
Antioch wrote:
Nahualt wrote:

Thanks 4E for giving yet another fun filled session. Thanks for getting me excited about DMing again. Thanks for making it so easy , I can pukk out a huge random encounter from out of thin air like I used to do way back in 1st edition and OD&D.

Seconded. For the first time in years, we've been able to sit down on random nights and just start rolling dice and having fun. The best thing is, some of our group have been able to run satisfying sessions on the fly, having NEVER ran a game before.

Thirded!

Our group is having a blast with 4E. Best $$$ we ever spent! With the streamlined rules, we've actually been able to roleplay more and get into some fun character development. Thanks 4E!

I've played several sessions as of yet. But, this weekend is going to be our first full-blown session to kick off our new 4th Edition Eberron campaign! Woot! Can't wait!


Beat ya.


Why does not everybody see that the creation of 4e was great for almost everybody? It shook up the industry. People who are ready for a change got 4e. People who wanted to improve 3.5 got PfRPG. People who want 3.5 still got it and an excuse to stop the madness of collecting. People who like to house-rule got a hayday of mayhem and rule speculation. People who want to argue got to argue. Heck, it probably helped OSRIC somehow. And finally us fence sitters got to be amused by the flame wars.

Alright maybe the 3PPs are up in the air right now, but I would beat that only 5% of the gamer population does not have things better.

EDIT: OK, FLGS might suffer but once they got rid of their back log of 3.5 stuff they should see stabilized inventory and sales.


Duncan & Dragons wrote:

Why does not everybody see that the creation of 4e was great for almost everybody? It shook up the industry. People who are ready for a change got 4e. People who wanted to improve 3.5 got PfRPG. People who want 3.5 still got it and an excuse to stop the madness of collecting. People who like to house-rule got a hayday of mayhem and rule speculation. People who want to argue got to argue. Heck, it probably helped OSRIC somehow. And finally us fence sitters got to be amused by the flame wars.

Alright maybe the 3PPs are up in the air right now, but I would beat that only 5% of the gamer population does not have things better.

EDIT: OK, FLGS might suffer but once they got rid of thier back log of 3.5 stuff they should see stabilized inventory and sales.

Move over, I am climbing into that boat with you.


Duncan & Dragons wrote:
Why does not everybody see that the creation of 4e was great for almost everybody?

I am not convinced but willing to wait and see how this affects the industry in years to come.

Sovereign Court

Larry Latourneau wrote:
blackrose_angel wrote:

I just wanted to say thank you 4ed.

Your making me save some money 2 way,
1-I aint buying you.
2-thare are a ton of 3.x books for sale in the used section
got savage specie,planar handbook ans cityscape for 35$$

Thank again :)

I had this whole post formulated about grammar and punctuation, but I kept coming back to the whole 'don't post insults' guidelines so I decided against posting it.

Instead, might I suggest you save posts like this for the "No Inherent Value" forum?

Just a thought.

Ironic much?


To me, specifically, 4E is a wonderful addition to my gaming books. Roleplay is my ideal but here's a new and easy system with which to do it.

Lots of people that didn't want to invest another $30-$90 in a new set of core books who missed out on 3e wound up getting the last edition for the price of one new edition book. I think that's awesome.

I'm happily in the boat on 4E being a good thing overall.

-Rachel-


Nahualt wrote:

...I can pukk out a huge random encounter from out of thin air like I used to do way back in 1st edition and OD&D.

Man, that's hilarious, and I know I'm being silly...

Is that "I can _puke_ out a huge random encounter..." or "pull out"...?

ROTFLMAO sophomorically!

Grand Lodge

Duncan & Dragons wrote:

Why does not everybody see that the creation of 4e was great for almost everybody? It shook up the industry. People who are ready for a change got 4e. People who wanted to improve 3.5 got PfRPG. People who want 3.5 still got it and an excuse to stop the madness of collecting. People who like to house-rule got a hayday of mayhem and rule speculation. People who want to argue got to argue. Heck, it probably helped OSRIC somehow. And finally us fence sitters got to be amused by the flame wars.

Fear. We old folks who are embittered because we don't want to convert realize how foolish we were when we laughed at the people who refused to "upgrade" to 3rd ed (or 2nd ed, for that matter) and also feel left out. We also are irritated that this new generation of kids who are so readily jumping to 4th ed are being just as foolish as we were by pointing at *us* and laughing.

Quite frankly, it's like when you realize that today's key demographic thinks of Nirvana as classic rock.

Whether it's a financial reason or just plain preference, we old folks are no longer supported and feel like we're being left behind (though that's not the intent).

We're realizing that we're all growed up, a little wiser with our money and time (ie - we don't have to buy *every* new supplement for *every* new game), and no one cares what we think anymore. Our demographic is no longer the key to financial success, and we don't like that feeling.

It's the same old story it's always been: the old folks are bitter and outdated, and the young kids are gullible and don't know the value of a dollar.

So I'm gonna hitch up my pants, tell the kids they can play 4th ed 'til they rot their brains out, yell at them to get the hell off my lawn, and then I'll go make a Half-Orc Assassin running around the Forgotten Realms pre-kaboom.

Hell, I may even make a house rule that says I get XP for finding gold...


*hops on Poizen's lap*

Tell us more about the good old days Grandpa? What was it like to have Elf be both your class -and- race?

*giggles* Sorry. I'm a Blue Boxer, too, for the record. So if anyone thinks I'm too young: You're wrong. But like all women my true age is mostly a secret ('cause I like being mistaken for an 18 year old, still!)

-Rachel-


(Puts false teeth in mouth) Heck I remember back in the good ole days (odd 7) when a gal-darn cleric was the only healer in the party! And a down right good won at that! Now a dang ole fighter can heal his own self?! Can't belive it no sire! 3.5, now thats the one fer me.

Bandit of LV


I remember when Clerics were the only ones that could heal... and when Druids were an alternate path... And Paladins were ridiculed for... well... They're still more or less ridiculed.

But yes. Thank you, 4th Edition. Thank you for being a new incarnation to liven up the style, settings, and rules. Thank you for stirring some of us up and pushing a few of us into being Codgers. Thank you, 4E for making us all remember what gaming is really about: Having a good time with our friends that doesn't involve someone getting seriously injured in a funy maner.... Usually.

-Rachel-


Rache'thulu wrote:

I remember when Clerics were the only ones that could heal... and when Druids were an alternate path... And Paladins were ridiculed for... well... They're still more or less ridiculed.

But yes. Thank you, 4th Edition. Thank you for being a new incarnation to liven up the style, settings, and rules. Thank you for stirring some of us up and pushing a few of us into being Codgers. Thank you, 4E for making us all remember what gaming is really about: Having a good time with our friends that doesn't involve someone getting seriously injured in a funy maner.... Usually.

-Rachel-

*dusts off his dragon 76 and red box*

Do you have your Texas Instruments Graphic Calculator and your calculus notes handy?


Wooooo! That's what I'm talking about! D&D when it was a pain in the neck to figure out! Give me rules so detailed I have to question what a bec-de-fauchard-fork-guisarme-glaive is and why it does the same exact thing a Halberd does for damage, reach, and style!

-Rachel-


Rache'thulu wrote:

Wooooo! That's what I'm talking about! D&D when it was a pain in the neck to figure out! Give me rules so detailed I have to question what a bec-de-fauchard-fork-guisarme-glaive is and why it does the same exact thing a Halberd does for damage, reach, and style!

-Rachel-

This might help!


Oh Jebuz! I'mma have a nerdgasm! Combining D&D with Monty Python! Who'd have thought of it other than the people who watched Holy Grail or any of Flying Circus and played D&D.

Yes, indeed. The Cheese Shop and D&D combined make polearms funny again.

But yeah. That's what I think of when I think of D&D, to be honest. Not the Blue box. I think of AD&D and 2e.... That's where it became real for me. 1st ed was kind of a beer and pretzels game for me (and I don't drink!) and 3e is kinda a power game by comparison. 4E is a whole new beast that I'm just getting geared up to tame.

But yes. 2e. Where there were enough polearms to make your packmule safe from falling into 10 foot deep pit-traps.

-Rachel-

Scarab Sages

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alleynbard wrote:

I got some 3.x books pretty cheap lately myself. Since I am playing 4e I can't wait to tear them apart for the fluff.

You're right!

Thanks 4E!

I'm still holding out for the last FR adventure series (cormyr, shadowdale,anarouch) to be sold dirt cheap.


Might I also add that the addition of the parrot in the foreground followed by a python or other snake, later was a nice touch on Burlew's part?

Though I found the Farscape reference a bit oddly placed, personally. They're already lampooning a sketch and a half (SPAM!) but adding in the obscurity of an intergalactic curseword translatable only by tiny ear implants is a bit far fetched.

Meanwhile I'm discussing it on a 4E board instead of in a 'Is this Really Relavant?' forum somewhere. Sorry.

Back to the original meaning of the thread!

*cracks whip*

-Rachel-


Mr. Slaad wrote:
Larry Latourneau wrote:
blackrose_angel wrote:

I just wanted to say thank you 4ed.

Your making me save some money 2 way,
1-I aint buying you.
2-thare are a ton of 3.x books for sale in the used section
got savage specie,planar handbook ans cityscape for 35$$

Thank again :)

I had this whole post formulated about grammar and punctuation, but I kept coming back to the whole 'don't post insults' guidelines so I decided against posting it.

Instead, might I suggest you save posts like this for the "No Inherent Value" forum?

Just a thought.

Ironic much?

I try...


Tranquilis wrote:
Nahualt wrote:

...I can pukk out a huge random encounter from out of thin air like I used to do way back in 1st edition and OD&D.

Man, that's hilarious, and I know I'm being silly...

Is that "I can _puke_ out a huge random encounter..." or "pull out"...?

ROTFLMAO sophomorically!

Well its supposed to be 'Pull' but making it into 'puke' gives it all kinds of randy awesomness!!


Nahualt wrote:
Tranquilis wrote:
Nahualt wrote:

...I can pukk out a huge random encounter from out of thin air like I used to do way back in 1st edition and OD&D.

Man, that's hilarious, and I know I'm being silly...

Is that "I can _puke_ out a huge random encounter..." or "pull out"...?

ROTFLMAO sophomorically!

Well its supposed to be 'Pull' but making it into 'puke' gives it all kinds of randy awesomness!!

Indeed.

Scarab Sages

poizen37 wrote:
Hell, I may even make a house rule that says I get XP for finding gold...

Isn't that the only way to get XP?


Thanks 4th edition for sifting out all those asshat's from 3.x who don't have anything better to do than layout flame bait.

Honestly its my favorite aspect of 4th, enjoy your third edition gentlemen

Scarab Sages

Logos wrote:

Thanks 4th edition for sifting out all those asshat's from 3.x who don't have anything better to do than layout flame bait.

Honestly its my favorite aspect of 4th, enjoy your third edition gentlemen

And for showing us those who choose to respond in kind.


hey look at that doubleblessing's

4th edition just keep's giving and giving

Logos

Scarab Sages

Logos wrote:

hey look at that doubleblessing's

4th edition just keep's giving and giving

Logos

You're welcome. I take pride in the fact that I can well represent the players of 3.5 with polite debate. I would rather not argue with you over an inane post, but you consistently provoke others into defending themselves.

At this point, unless you post something related to the thread, I will not reply further to your comments.

EDIT: If you did not mean your comments as an insult, I apologize.

Also, are we allowed to say "asshat"? I put "cock-fighting" in a thread about pirate games and it got changed...


I, for one, am very pleased with how 3rd edition and 4th edition are both turning out.

Sure, 3.5 won't get as many new rulebooks and probably won't be supported by WOTC any longer. But there is a metric ton of supplements, adventures, and fluff that people will be able to use to create adventure for another 15-30 years before they start retracing their steps.

As for 4th Edition it's got kind of a new feel to it and some bugs to work out of the system. But it's still a pretty good storytelling engine with a certain cinematic flair. I enjoy the modular stat blocks and the ability to modify creatures on the fly into higher level or lower level counterparts.

Both systems started with rather large labor pains in the community. As many people as there are talking about how 'Over-powered' the PCs are in this edition... There were at least as many when 3rd ed cropped up. I seem to recall a screaming hissy fit between fanboys at a convention about Barbarians getting a d12 hit dice. Now we're arguing over advancement speeds and how many powers a person gets.

In the end; D&D will continue on it's merry little way spreading confusion about Attacks of Opportunity, arguments on Line of Sight vs Line of Effect, and other trivia.

But please: Let's save the arguments and screaming, flaming hissy fits for the conventions. At least that way I get to giggle while watching two to twelve people getting escorted out of the con for violently attacking each other with cardboard weaponry.

-Rachel-

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