CMB and prone


Combat & Magic

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Sorry if this has been covered before, but with nerfed searching I couldn't find it...

I can't find in the rules any discernible effect the prone condition on CMB. If one is prone and attempting a maneuver, I assume that the same penalties to-hit apply to the CMB roll, but if one is attempting a maneuver on a prone opponent, there seems to be no penalty to their CMB for their condition. Am I just overlooking something or has this not been addressed yet?


It is a little vague in some areas.

I am also curious about other modifiers adding or not adding to CMB.

Example: If I have a +4 dodge bonus to my armor class due to feats or class featrues. This makes me harder to hit because I am good at dodging and evading. Why does this bonus not apply to me avoiding a bullrush or trip attempt?

You could also ask about spell effects like deflection bonuses to AC or Luck bonus to AC. It seems odd that many magical effect that should provide a bonus or penalty to Combat Manuevers dont as written.

I am hoping that Beta clears alot of this up.

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