How do you think a UFO works?


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I think that its like a heavy object floating on water. At a certain point it tips over and sinks. So to counter that you counterweight its wobble so it never tips over.

Only the Air is the fluid it floats on and Altitude is measured in Air pressure.


I don't think they exist. UFOs and UFO sighting are very culturally sensitive (their common in certian cultures and non-existant in others).

Since I would not expect actual aliens to be double checking to insure that they only fly around in cultures that want to have UFO sightings I have to assume that the phenomena is essentially man made. Cultures that want to have UFOs and Alien abductions have lots of them (thousands in the USA alone if one counts all the people claiming to have been abducted) while other cultures just don't have any (Iran, the Continent of Africa) were Aliens and UFOs simply don't fit their view of reality and hence the Aliens don't ever bother them.

Hence its very clear that the best defence against Aliens is not to believe in them. Aliens are very picky - they only ever bother people (or entire continents) that believe in them.

Liberty's Edge

I say...

A UFO works by manipulating physical space at the subatomic level, overlaying empty areas with full areas in a hyperdynamic lattice.

The outer hull is composed of nanotubes programed to shift at the subatomic strata contrary to the location of individual free-floating hydrogen particles. This keeps the craft aloft and acts as the motivation for three-axis spatial displacement (movement in any direction), without a motor or any moving parts or mechanics. A simple, wireless control interface instructs the nanotubes and acts as the steering and navigation.

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Andrew Turner wrote:

I say...

A UFO works by manipulating physical space at the subatomic level, overlaying empty areas with full areas in a hyperdynamic lattice.

The outer hull is composed of nanotubes programed to shift at the subatomic strata contrary to the location of individual free-floating hydrogen particles. This keeps the craft aloft and acts as the motivation for three-axis spatial displacement (movement in any direction), without a motor or any moving parts or mechanics. A simple, wireless control interface instructs the nanotubes and acts as the steering and navigation.

So do they give you a good desk over at Area 51?

Liberty's Edge

Zuxius wrote:
So do they give you a good desk over at Area 51?

Well... you might notice that most of my profile is Classified... so, I could tell you, but then I'd have to... you know how it goes.

Scarab Sages

The secret is in the crop circles. They raid farms and produce a superior form of ethanol from the crops they steal. The geometric shapes are just to screw with our minds -

"Hey Glarb-netz, they'll never figure this one out."

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Andrew Turner wrote:

I say...

A UFO works by manipulating physical space at the subatomic level, overlaying empty areas with full areas in a hyperdynamic lattice.

The outer hull is composed of nanotubes programed to shift at the subatomic strata contrary to the location of individual free-floating hydrogen particles. This keeps the craft aloft and acts as the motivation for three-axis spatial displacement (movement in any direction), without a motor or any moving parts or mechanics. A simple, wireless control interface instructs the nanotubes and acts as the steering and navigation.

The how do they cope with the static differential across the surface of the ship? Everytime they flex a bundle of carbon nanotubes you get waves of electrons. The static cling must be incredible.


yellowdingo wrote:
Everytime they flex a bundle of carbon nanotubes you get waves of electrons. The static cling must be incredible.

Yes; that's where all the lost socks from the laundry have gone.

Liberty's Edge

UFOs are a distortion in space-time caused by sensory probes from the future poking back into our time to “look around”. As such they don’t follow the normal laws of physics or aerodynamics as we currently understand them.

They concentrate on the USA because everyone in the future is American.

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Mothman wrote:

UFOs are a distortion in space-time caused by sensory probes from the future poking back into our time to “look around”. As such they don’t follow the normal laws of physics or aerodynamics as we currently understand them.

They concentrate on the USA because everyone in the future is American.

More likely it is because the USA is the first to fall. PS Sting theory kicks physics and maths in the groin...the rules exist soley because you use them, not because they are right.

Sovereign Court

Aberzombie wrote:

The secret is in the crop circles. They raid farms and produce a superior form of ethanol from the crops they steal. The geometric shapes are just to screw with our minds -

"Hey Glarb-netz, they'll never figure this one out."

Damn you, you made a joke in a serious thread!

*shakes fist*

Sovereign Court

Oh and I think they go by wormholes or the closest equivalent.

Dark Archive

They have to be doughnut-shaped, because of the toroid of exotic matter ringing the edge, which creates and maintains a region of warped spacetime within it's center, that allows the vessel to slide interspatially, like a bubble across the surface of a pond.

The spinning is just to keep the lights on through an electrostatic process / thingie that I can't really explain, because we don't have words for some of it. I could make stuff up, but it wouldn't really explain anything if I said that you have to shama-lama the ding-dong.

Contrary to popular rumor, cattle mutilation has nothing to do with it. That's just the damn faeries acting up.

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Jeremy Mac Donald wrote:

I don't think they exist. UFOs and UFO sighting are very culturally sensitive (their common in certian cultures and non-existant in others).

Since I would not expect actual aliens to be double checking to insure that they only fly around in cultures that want to have UFO sightings I have to assume that the phenomena is essentially man made. Cultures that want to have UFOs and Alien abductions have lots of them (thousands in the USA alone if one counts all the people claiming to have been abducted) while other cultures just don't have any (Iran, the Continent of Africa) were Aliens and UFOs simply don't fit their view of reality and hence the Aliens don't ever bother them.

Hence its very clear that the best defence against Aliens is not to believe in them. Aliens are very picky - they only ever bother people (or entire continents) that believe in them.

must have discovered oil!


I say via a giant turbine powered by mice. Why else would they be saucer-shaped?


Magical candy! And Rainbows! And a unicorn in a giant hamster wheel ridden by a leprechaun!


Aberzombie wrote:

The secret is in the crop circles. They raid farms and produce a superior form of ethanol from the crops they steal. The geometric shapes are just to screw with our minds -

"Hey Glarb-netz, they'll never figure this one out."

Actually it's methane. Hence the cows and the anal probes. They're mining.

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Anyone up to making one? We could fill truck innertube with hydrogen and with aluminium wing sections and sheet skin the thing. A lift turbine in the middle and a counterweight that shifts acording to the direction of a specific electronic signal - such as the sparkplugs on your car and we have an unmaned UFO that will chase your car down the highway.

"Eeek! Its after me! I dont want to be abducted"

Liberty's Edge

I think a UFO is, y'know, something that just, like, flies around being all *mysterious* and *unidentifiable* and s~%@...

BOOGABOOGABOOGA!

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T'Ranchule wrote:
I say via a giant turbine powered by mice. Why else would they be saucer-shaped?

Because the aliens are really giant, sentient teacups.


The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
T'Ranchule wrote:
I say via a giant turbine powered by mice. Why else would they be saucer-shaped?
Because the aliens are really giant, sentient teacups.

If that's true, then defeating an invasion should be easy. All we would need is a p!$$ed-off bull.

AH! That explains the cattle mutilations! They're destroying our only weapon! The fiends!!!

Scarab Sages

yellowdingo wrote:
PS Sting theory kicks physics and maths in the groin...the rules exist soley because you use them, not because they are right.

Sting Theory? Sweet! I'm going to see The Police in concert at the end of the month. Maybe he'll expound on this thoery you speak of.

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Aberzombie wrote:
yellowdingo wrote:
PS Sting theory kicks physics and maths in the groin...the rules exist soley because you use them, not because they are right.
Sting Theory? Sweet! I'm going to see The Police in concert at the end of the month. Maybe he'll expound on this thoery you speak of.

So you have worked out my terrible secret...men in black will visit you during the concert...the Hivemaster will be most pleased.


Aberzombie wrote:
I'm going to see The Police in concert at the end of the month.

Sweet! Stewart Copeland: God of Drumming. Maybe sting theory explains his preternatural awesomeness. Or maybe he's actually a tentacular alien in disguise.

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yellowdingo wrote:
Andrew Turner wrote:

I say...

A UFO works by manipulating physical space at the subatomic level, overlaying empty areas with full areas in a hyperdynamic lattice.

The outer hull is composed of nanotubes programed to shift at the subatomic strata contrary to the location of individual free-floating hydrogen particles. This keeps the craft aloft and acts as the motivation for three-axis spatial displacement (movement in any direction), without a motor or any moving parts or mechanics. A simple, wireless control interface instructs the nanotubes and acts as the steering and navigation.

The how do they cope with the static differential across the surface of the ship? Everytime they flex a bundle of carbon nanotubes you get waves of electrons. The static cling must be incredible.

You aren't taking into account the possibility of an inverse tachyon field and the molecular modulation possible with such a creation (if possible to create).

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P.S.- I only know enough to Fake it!


I am waiting for the aliens to send a few IFOs (Identifiable Flying Objects). Until then, I am just ignoring their alien shenanigans.

But, to venture a guess, I think they work by manipulating probability waves. This is why we can never quite take a clear picture of one, because they are probably not there. :p

I also would not rule out the sub-field quantum repulsion-torque(s) alluded to above. Micro-tubules seem to be a natural technological progression needed for a civilization to become a space-fairing race.

Those UFO drivers have got to be damn good at math too. How else are you going to plot high dimensional jumps from within the Earth's gravitational field? Wait... maybe they just have sweet AI and the actual aliens are kinda dumb.

This could explain why we catch fleeting glimpses of them, as they pick up a load of cattle or the occasional mobile home inhabitant, because they accidentally push the wrong button -- alien truck drivers. ha!

beep beep beep ( <- UFO backing up )

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Tensor wrote:
Those UFO drivers have got to be damn good at math too. How else are you going to plot high dimensional jumps from within the Earth's gravitational field?

A divided by 0 = not A thus A={1} is a set component of all numbers we use, so to find a number set we dont use 1/0=/1 thus /A={/1}.

NOTHING TO SEE HERE!

OK lets try: k=n mod G xor n(max) mod G

gravity = mass x aceleration

1/mass x gravity = aceleration

1/mass = aceleration / gravity

if k= A mod G xor A(max) mod G then what is K? What is the remainder of A/G?


I think they work pretty well...
:P

Ultradan


A wizard does it.


I am with Tensor, could you be more specific please? Which UFO are you asking about?

Most of the ones I have driven have two pedals to control yaw, a yoke to control pitch and a nob to control noise. Some others just have a stick. I think it makes the coffee.

Liberty's Edge

It gets a greencard.

The Exchange

with pancakes

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Well when I was a kid the UFO I saw looks an awful lot like our current stealth fighters except it had lights on the side sort of like warning lights. This was in the 70's My current theory is most "crafts" that are being seen are experimental in nature and possibly classified. I do not however believe we have any little green men running around down here.


Swamp gas.


The_PenDRaGoN wrote:
with pancakes

Nononono. It's buttered bread and cats.

Liberty's Edge

yellowdingo wrote:

I think that its like a heavy object floating on water. At a certain point it tips over and sinks. So to counter that you counterweight its wobble so it never tips over.

Only the Air is the fluid it floats on and Altitude is measured in Air pressure.

I think they run on the carcasses of baby seals, bunnies, and other cute critters.

Paizo Employee Director of Game Development

I don't know how UFOs work, but I know the best folks to ask work over at Lockheed, Ratheon, JPL, and DARPA. The only thing that puts the 'U' into UFO is that the things folks are seeing are not declassified yet.
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Grand Lodge

Pathfinder PF Special Edition, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Andrew Turner wrote:

I say...

A UFO works by manipulating physical space at the subatomic level, overlaying empty areas with full areas in a hyperdynamic lattice.

Is there any math attached to that gibberish you're spouting? Or would you like to at least define "hyperdynamic" to the rest of the audience please?


They run on redneck poo and cow blood.

Dark Archive

LazarX wrote:
Andrew Turner wrote:

I say...

A UFO works by manipulating physical space at the subatomic level, overlaying empty areas with full areas in a hyperdynamic lattice.

Is there any math attached to that gibberish you're spouting? Or would you like to at least define "hyperdynamic" to the rest of the audience please?

You could, like, google it.


Xabulba wrote:
They run on redneck poo and cow blood.

They also come to harvest leprechauns and hamsters for lubrication.

Liberty's Edge

Andrew Turner wrote:

I say...

A UFO works by manipulating physical space at the subatomic level, overlaying empty areas with full areas in a hyperdynamic lattice.

LazarX wrote:


Is there any math attached to that gibberish you're spouting? Or would you like to at least define "hyperdynamic" to the rest of the audience please?

It's a superposition of states where p and q are noncommuting. Hyperdynamic lattices allow you to manipulate matter in terms of on and off (1 and 0, so to speak). It's all quite simple, really...

Liberty's Edge

I cast: resurrection.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder PF Special Edition, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Zuxius wrote:
Andrew Turner wrote:

I say...

A UFO works by manipulating physical space at the subatomic level, overlaying empty areas with full areas in a hyperdynamic lattice.

The outer hull is composed of nanotubes programed to shift at the subatomic strata contrary to the location of individual free-floating hydrogen particles. This keeps the craft aloft and acts as the motivation for three-axis spatial displacement (movement in any direction), without a motor or any moving parts or mechanics. A simple, wireless control interface instructs the nanotubes and acts as the steering and navigation.

So do they give you a good desk over at Area 51?

Or a straitjacket in Bellevile?


It is a recurring motif that people see something blinking and cigarlike zip across their field of vision. These observations are typically symptoms of stroke, and this could explain why the cultures that are alien-primed are the only ones where such sightings are called aliens. Other cultures find another explanation. By the same token, there are african cultures where voice hallucinations are replaced by the sound of war drums. Cultural references affect us deeply.

If we are to discuss the sightings that do exist as real, there was a report from a fighter pilot that he saw something flying, that suddenly shot away from him at an incredible speed. Considering things like sheer stress and even acceleration itself, this would suggest inertialess motion. Anything else would smear the contents of the UFO against the back wall. How inertialess motion can be achieved, naturally, is unknown at this time. That we finally are more or less certain we have found the Higgs particle is likely the absolute first step along that path, however.

Me, I find it utterly improbable that aliens would come visit us without us knowing about it. We have astronomers who would pick up on any kind of applicable approach.


UFO's are simple. They work like this:

1 - Look up.
2 - See something flying.
3 - Don't know what it is.
4 - It's a UFO (Unidentified Flying Object)
5 - Attempt to profit from misidentifying said flying object as an extraterrestrial spacecraft.
(Please note that if that were true, it would no longer be Unidentified, and thus is no longer a UFO.)

UFO's certainly exist. It's extraterrestrial spacecraft that are questionable.

Liberty's Edge

Sissyl wrote:

It is a recurring motif that people see something blinking and cigarlike zip across their field of vision. These observations are typically symptoms of stroke, and this could explain why the cultures that are alien-primed are the only ones where such sightings are called aliens. Other cultures find another explanation. By the same token, there are african cultures where voice hallucinations are replaced by the sound of war drums. Cultural references affect us deeply.

If we are to discuss the sightings that do exist as real, there was a report from a fighter pilot that he saw something flying, that suddenly shot away from him at an incredible speed. Considering things like sheer stress and even acceleration itself, this would suggest inertialess motion. Anything else would smear the contents of the UFO against the back wall. How inertialess motion can be achieved, naturally, is unknown at this time. That we finally are more or less certain we have found the Higgs particle is likely the absolute first step along that path, however.

Me, I find it utterly improbable that aliens would come visit us without us knowing about it. We have astronomers who would pick up on any kind of applicable approach.

So you have no idea how a UFO might actually work?

Liberty's Edge

Eric Jarman wrote:

UFO's are simple. They work like this:

1 - Look up.
2 - See something flying.
3 - Don't know what it is.
4 - It's a UFO (Unidentified Flying Object)
5 - Attempt to profit from misidentifying said flying object as an extraterrestrial spacecraft.
(Please note that if that were true, it would no longer be Unidentified, and thus is no longer a UFO.)

UFO's certainly exist. It's extraterrestrial spacecraft that are questionable.

You're also having a bad day and don't want to play our game. I'm not giving you any spaceship cake unless you come up with a cool way a UFO might actually work.


Well, it obviously has Heisenberg compensators somewhere.

Liberty's Edge

I need to update the semiannual report to my boss here in Nevada.

So, what do you guys think makes these machines work nowadays?

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