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By the way, to all those claiming that Paizo is taking every opportunity to remind people that LGBT characters exist, and is "shoving it down our throats" (good lord), have you ever considered how many LGBT NPCs are not identified?
An average AP book might contain 20 NPCs (conservatively). There are 12 complete adventure paths of six adventures each. That works out to nearly 1,500 NPCs described to some level of detail in Pathfinder Adventure Paths alone (between the adventures, the setting material, the fiction, and the bestiaries). I'd say it's reasonable to expect another 500 (which, given the fact that the NPC Codex exists, is really lowballing it) in non-AP material.
So let's say there are 2,000 Pathfinder NPCs out there described in some detail. The most reliable figure I've seen for incidence of homosexuality is 6% (likely larger once you include the B and T groups). Translating this to our stable of Pathfinder NPCs, we can expect 120 of them to identify as LGBT.
And yet we have, what, a dozen or so recognizable examples of LGBT NPCs? So maybe 10% of LGBT Pathfinder NPCs are actually described as LGBT. 10%. That's all. That's "shoving it down our throats"? Come the hell on.
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Yes, and not all peoples and politics fit into Golarion, or Golarion as realised through dm's games.Trans folks are people. People are not "politics." End of story.Echoing that. We really must get past this notion. It's not only tedious but profoundly insulting.
Dude, this is an honestly creepy line to take. I know you're all about attempted shock value and self-impressed emoticons and s~!!, but really? "Not all people fit" in your fantasy world?
I'm glad I'm playing in Paizo's fantasy world and not in yours.
Alice,
That is a insult to Aboriginal culture, to attempt to compare the Aboriginal Dreamtime and its rich tapestry of stories as being represented in the scant detail of a fantasy setting. :'(
Not sure if sarcasm or not.
If not: I'm sure when they get around to detailing Sarusan it will be as culturally sensitive and well done as all the other cultures represented.
(Personally my homebrew campaign setting takes more than a little inspiration from the Dreamtime. That culture is woefully underrepresented in fantasy.)
Your homebrew setting sounds interesting! Could I entice you into sharing a bit more of it? :)
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Gosh. That is even worse!
If you are a freelancer, you will write according to our politics.
That is positively monstrous. Thanks for the clarification Jessica Price. You are cool.
Freelancers literally are working for Paizo. Why would it be "monstrous" to enforce that they follow Paizo's guidelines?
Don't be ridiculous.
That ship has sailed. The opportunity has ceased to be. It's expired and gone to meet its maker. Bereft of life, it rests in peace. It's shuffled off its mortal coil, run down the curtain, and joined the choir invisible. It is an ex-possibility.
Yes, and not all peoples and politics fit into Golarion, or Golarion as realised through dm's games.Trans folks are people. People are not "politics." End of story.Echoing that. We really must get past this notion. It's not only tedious but profoundly insulting.Dude, this is an honestly creepy line to take. I know you're all about attempted shock value and self-impressed emoticons and s~#+, but really? "Not all people fit" in your fantasy world?
I'm glad I'm playing in Paizo's fantasy world and not in yours.
Didn't you get the memo? Golarion isn't Earth.
You're free to write whatever you want, but if you want a job: you follow guidelines.
By the way, to all those claiming that Paizo is taking every opportunity to remind people that LGBT characters exist, and is "shoving it down our throats" (good lord), have you ever considered how many LGBT NPCs are not identified?
An average AP book might contain 20 NPCs (conservatively). There are 12 complete adventure paths of six adventures each. That works out to nearly 1,500 NPCs described to some level of detail in Pathfinder Adventure Paths alone (between the adventures, the setting material, the fiction, and the bestiaries). I'd say it's reasonable to expect another 500 (which, given the fact that the NPC Codex exists, is really lowballing it) in non-AP material.
So let's say there are 2,000 Pathfinder NPCs out there described in some detail. The most reliable figure I've seen for incidence of homosexuality is 6% (likely larger once you include the B and T groups). Translating this to our stable of Pathfinder NPCs, we can expect 120 of them to identify as LGBT.
And yet we have, what, a dozen or so recognizable examples of LGBT NPCs? So maybe 10% of LGBT Pathfinder NPCs are actually described as LGBT. 10%. That's all. That's "shoving it down our throats"? Come the hell on.
I've heard 9-10% homosexual in societies such as the U.S and Australia. Seen no numbers on trans.
With polymorph and shapechange spells, I would not be surprised and it is not inconceivable that some female characters were really males or vice versa. Real history is littered with people posing as the opposite gender (often women as men, which is ironic as I notice that it is far easier for a man to masquerade as a woman convincingly than the other way around).
I wouldn't be surprised that a Drow matron in a noble house turn out to be a male in drag (or use magical means to maintain the facade).
As for gay male characters in D&D or Pathfinder, the Planescape adventure Dead God did mention in passing and implied that Nilonim, the Drow that the PC may rescued from being sacrificed to Lolth in Vault of the Drow, had a male lover.
You're free to write whatever you want, but if you want a job: you follow guidelines.
free·lance
n. also free lance (frlns)1. A person who sells services to employers without a long-term commitment to any of them.
2. An uncommitted independent, as in politics or social life.
3. A medieval mercenary.
v. free·lanced, free·lanc·ing, free·lanc·es
v.intr.
To work as a freelance: a journalist who freelances.
v.tr.
To produce and sell as a freelance: freelanced the article to a magazine publisher.
adj.
Of, relating to, or working as a freelance.
Being a freelancer isn't about others forcing their politics upon you. You are an independent, and not committed to their politics by default.
Course, policing freelancers would be difficult.
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So, Paizo is supposed to hire freelancers that don't follow their guidelines, pay them for unsatisfactory work, and be okay with that? I think you forget the part where the freelancer "sells" his work. That means he's got to appeal to his employer's expectations.
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Your homebrew setting sounds interesting! Could I entice you into sharing a bit more of it? :)Alice,
That is a insult to Aboriginal culture, to attempt to compare the Aboriginal Dreamtime and its rich tapestry of stories as being represented in the scant detail of a fantasy setting. :'(
Not sure if sarcasm or not.
If not: I'm sure when they get around to detailing Sarusan it will be as culturally sensitive and well done as all the other cultures represented.
(Personally my homebrew campaign setting takes more than a little inspiration from the Dreamtime. That culture is woefully underrepresented in fantasy.)
It takes as much inspiration from Shintoism/Japanese(+ other Asian) mythology as it does Dreamtime ideas in many regards. There are many creatures/beings that are of this world and yet not, are much more closely connected to the world/land and magic itself (magic in this setting is not differentiated between divine/arcane, it simply is) than a mortal would be. The more powerful of them would indeed have created or even literally be the mountains and rivers and so forth. I would like to have some analogues to Dreamtime stories physically present in the setting as well.
I intend on having some race of native creatures (non-humans - because the humans are outsiders/foreigners to this land and explicitly unconnected to the local magic) that would follow a more traditional Dreaming type culture/religion in some regards, although I'm not sure too much about those details just now - that's more of a thought bubble than a fully fleshed idea.
I'm not an expert on Aboriginal culture by any stretch, but being Australian I've been introduced to various aspects of it throughout my life and it's quite fascinating. I hope to not be too clumsy in my representations. But I just overall don't see the Australian Aboriginal culture represented in most media.
Some perhaps some perhaps eh?
If it is a short adventure with pcs vs a dungeon and almost no npcs, there isn't much room to tick the LGBT box. That seems fine to me. What if LGBT has nothing to do with the adventure or the few npcs that are there?
Dungeons with spikes and rock traps are phallic, so they are male. ;)
Whips and nets are female, so oglaf said. :O
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I'm not against including LGBT characters, but it should feel natural, not forced. If any of you have watched the show Warehouse 13, one of the characters is a gay guy. I think they actually did that pretty well, mostly because when it was revealed (a few episodes after he joined the cast), it didn't become the sum of his character. He remained a Warehouse agent, who happened to be gay; rather than becoming the gay guy who happened to work at the Warehouse.