Prestige Skills for Feats (p36)


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I have a player wanting to take a feat that requires 4 ranks in a skill, under the default 3.5 rules he could take that feat at character creation, currently using the RAW for pathfinder, he can not. I think this should probably be added to the section on 'prestige skills' or somewhere in the feat section that the requirements for feats that require skills drops by three (minimum 1).

Liberty's Edge

If the skill is a class skill for any of your classes, your 'ranks' count as total ranks +3 for the purpose of prestige classes, and thus, presumably for skills and skill tricks.

Currently, if you do not have the skill as a class skill for any of your classes, your ranks for the purpose of prestige classes (and presumably feats) is 1/2 your total ranks. This will change. But for right now, you can use it.

So, if your player were taking the skill as a cross-class skill, he could not take the feat (since he'd have 1 rank, and it would only act as 1 rank). If he takes a class skill, he can take the feat.


DeadDMWalking wrote:

If the skill is a class skill for any of your classes, your 'ranks' count as total ranks +3 for the purpose of prestige classes, and thus, presumably for skills and skill tricks.

Currently, if you do not have the skill as a class skill for any of your classes, your ranks for the purpose of prestige classes (and presumably feats) is 1/2 your total ranks. This will change. But for right now, you can use it.

So, if your player were taking the skill as a cross-class skill, he could not take the feat (since he'd have 1 rank, and it would only act as 1 rank). If he takes a class skill, he can take the feat.

Presumably being the word, it doesn't say explicitly as far as I can tell. I'm just wondering if this was intentional or not.

Liberty's Edge

What feat are you thinking of that has a skill requirement? Since I'm not aware of any, I don't know if they need to make it explicit for feats, but I think they should make it explicit that for all intensive purposes, ranks = ranks +3 for class skills. The only skills that it really matters that the +3 isn't +3 ranks are skills like Perform where you gain a new instrument for every rank you have.

What do you think is reasonable as a DM?


Yea I told him that the +3 from class worked for it, but I would like to see this in the next edition and as far as I can see no one else has commented on it.

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