Pathfinder to 4E: So who's with me?


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"Paizo hopes to support 4th Edition with fan-created online conversions of its Pathfinder products and a complete line from its partner company, Necromancer Games, a trend-setter in the original Open Gaming movement."

Between playing our games and contributing to the upcoming Pathfinder RPG, who here also plans to translate the various Pathfinder APs, modules, and supplements (whew!) to 4E as well? I know I will if a) I like the system and b) have the frackin' time!


I'm in for the APs and perhaps the modules. For the supplements I'm not sure if it will worth the effort.


It takes a lot of time and effort to do this, if I'm doing it for myself I might share, but I think copyright issues might be a problem. (I can't reprint the whole thing so what am i left with a series of npc and monster and trap conversions... that seems to lack vitality, not to mention I think having the same problem.

My big hope is the necro 4e adventure path not sucking, but i don't have high hopes (sort of wide and low hopes).

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I've been in a real dilemma about this lately. I do want to give 4E a shot, as I'm excited about a lot of aspects of it. I should be wrapping up my Savage Tide campaign in July, so hopefully in August or September I'll be ready to start a new long term game. I just can't decide what to do. I'm torn between attempting to convert one of the Pathfinder APs (either RotRL or CotCT) or just running a homebrew campaign. It's a tough call. However, I'm sure my decision will be swayed once I get my hands on the core 4E books. Right now I'm not even sure how easy it will be to convert the APs.

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I think it could be done, but until the books are out. Not much work could be done.

I think the best way would be to set up a PDF file and then have headings using the same name and number(if any) as the encounter as it does in the book. Then the monster stats or what have you. Then people with the books can see which ones are which at a easy glance. I don't think paizo would have a issue with the reprint of the encounter name and or number.


They surely shouldn't have an issue with that, as it would lead to more people continuing to buy Pathfinder, since they would be able to use it with 4E without having to do all the conversion work themselves.

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I agree they shouldn't and I seriously doubt they will. But I don't want to speak for them. i was merely pointing out a way i think it would be best to handle it, if Paizo allows it is all. :)

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Dark_Mistress wrote:


I think the best way would be to set up a PDF file and then have headings using the same name and number(if any) as the encounter as it does in the book. Then the monster stats or what have you. Then people with the books can see which ones are which at a easy glance. I don't think paizo would have a issue with the reprint of the encounter name and or number.

Nice. And it'll also -- hopefully -- be easy to print out.

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P.H. Dungeon wrote:
They surely shouldn't have an issue with that, as it would lead to more people continuing to buy Pathfinder, since they would be able to use it with 4E without having to do all the conversion work themselves.

Heck, the Paizo krew may even have suggestions on how to do it! It IS their stuff. Course, don't quote me! :)


I'm interested in trying to convert the Curse of the Crimson Throne to 4th Edition. Has any one here started this conversion? Is there a thread here or elsewhere with people working on this conversion? I don't want to duplicate work if others have already done some of it, but I can help with contributions by converting some of the NPCs and monsters. With a group effort it might not be so hard to convert the adventure path.

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I'm planning on giving it a shot--my Savage Tide game is almost wrapped up, and I'm running the first of the 4E modules when it comes in as a filler/practice game. Hopefully, I'll have time during that to get the first parts of Curse of the Crimson Throne worked out. I don't know if I'll be putting them somewhere online, and I have no clue as to the whole legality issue (I think Paizo said they're cool with conversions, just like the conversions available for other game systems right now, but it may fall under the whole "3rd parties must wait until august to make 4E products" thing, since we're talking free conversion notes).

If my conversion's anything resembling decent, I'll look into posting, but I'll probably just be doing stat blocks and game conversion notes (I.E., "the trap in room A8 functions as X, the check for jumping this chasm is Y"). Nothing fancy.


zoroaster100 wrote:
I'm interested in trying to convert the Curse of the Crimson Throne to 4th Edition. Has any one here started this conversion?

I've looked at it a bit, but very quickly concluded I'm going to want the full rules before I get into it. Spoilers, in case we've got players here:

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I expect having access to the 4th edition rules for disease is going to be important to the overall shape of the translation. And I want to get a better sense of how to use the minion rules - I'm looking forward to throwing hordes of vampire spawn at the characters during Seven Days to the Grave. =)

Honestly, while I think we'll be able to use the rules pretty quickly once they come out, I think it'll take a little practice before we can use the rules well.


The unscrupulous Dr. Pweent wrote:


Honestly, while I think we'll be able to use the rules pretty quickly once they come out, I think it'll take a little practice before we can use the rules well.

I'm interested in trying, but as the Doctor and ther posters have pointed out.. it's difficult until I have the 4th Edition rules in my hands.

As a counter point to the Doctor, not actually disagreeing with him but putting another spin on it, this is a great way to learn 4th Edition rules. Especially if you have the time. (I won't be anywhere near done with Runelords after 4th Edition actually arrives).

Imagine the advantage for a would be freelancer to be able to model the 3.5 feel with 4th edition rules.

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I wish y'all the best of luck in making your conversions. The more exposure Pathfinder gets, the better the market will be for RPGs in general.

I do wonder if the theme of the modules would be about all that gets translated though.

(Warning! Speculation ahead)

It has already been mentioned the ideas of the 'gang of mooks' vs the more, durable, foes of 3.x For example you likely can have 5-10 goblins in a wave in Burnt offerings vs 3 or 4, with only the warchanger not having 'mook' status.


I stumbled onto the Rise of the Runelords and absolutely love it. I'll be of those attempting a conversion to 4e. I actually have been looking at the True20 conversions to get a feel of how to translate the 'flavor' of RotRLs from one set to another. I think the minion rules will allow some definite mob fun in Burnt Offers.


Daelkyr wrote:
I stumbled onto the Rise of the Runelords and absolutely love it. I'll be of those attempting a conversion to 4e. I actually have been looking at the True20 conversions to get a feel of how to translate the 'flavor' of RotRLs from one set to another. I think the minion rules will allow some definite mob fun in Burnt Offers.

There's a thread for converting this specific AP already:

http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/community/gaming/4thEdition/4EConversi onBurntOfferingsPathfinder1

Though not much has been happening lately as we are kinda waiting for 4E to come out.

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