Matrissa the Enchantress |
I'm starting this thread as the place to offer gushing praises and support for your own personal favourite to win (if you have one) or even offer predictions for the ultimate winner (if you're already convinced). I look forward to seeing what others have to say.
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Yesterday and this morning, while waiting for round five voting to commence, I went through the more recent posts on the threads from the earlier rounds and re-read a few of the entries from the top six that I wasn't particularly fond of the first time around, just to see if a re-read would improve their patina. This got me thinking about who I thought, out of the top six and based on the full portfolio of work each one has submitted to the competition so far, has the best chance of winning and who, regardless of what I thought about the first question, did I really, really, really want to win.
I concluded, for the moment, that I'm not ready to answer the "best chance to win" question. I think the contest is still pretty much anyone's to win - I can't see that anyone has consistently been a "fan favourite" for all four rounds and all the contestants have be improving dramatically as the contest has progressed. Given the nature of round five I think it might just provide the key bit of insight I require to make any kind of prediction with a reasonable chance of success so, for now, I'll hold off
However, on the "who would I really, really, really like to see win" front, I can only say that, hands down, it's got to be Rob McCreary:
- The Coin Belt of Beguiling was in my top ten and would fit perfectly into my own campaign and two of the campaigns I play in where gypsy-types are commonly found.
- As anyone who read the "Round Three: Who Has Your Vote" thread knows, Onuyaka, the All-Seeing Eye was one of my top two villain choices and I was confident enough that others felt the same way that I deliberately didn't vote for it.
- And while I never officially commented on The Ooze Imperium (Or, in fact, any other thematic creature entries - RL issues kept me away from the boards until after Round 4 voting closed) I loved it so much I forwarded a link to one of my DM's who hasn't been following the contest as closely 'cause it would totally slide right into his campaign {pun fully intended}.
- Lastly: Iskandria did not make my top five countries nor did I include it as one of the two honourable mentions in my post to the "Who's in your 5?" thread for round 2, but a re-read helped it grow on me - enough that it gained notably more weight than some of the various entries from other "top sixes" that I didn't much like on first blush.
So, here's to Rob with a solid RAH, RAH, RAH!!!
Consider this official notice that I've started sending boatloads of good karma Rob's way in the hopes it will somehow help him secure RPG Superstardom!
:-j(enni)
Clinton Boomer Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4 |
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No one has been perfect, every one has at least some minor slips. Of course, or I'd be suspicious.
But two are my favorites, Christine and Boomer. They both bring the level of imagination and creativity that I'm personally hoping for. I don't want to see more the same, I want something new. We've got people who can do what's currently being done, and they're very good at it. We don't need more people who think the same way.
Not saying that the others can't do that as well, just that Christine and Boomer have done it most consistently.
Don't know how many people agree with what I want from the contest, but it's where I lean. I want New! Improved! Shiny!
Steven Helt RPG Superstar 2013 , Dedicated Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9 aka Steven T. Helt |
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Matrissa the Enchantress |
All 6 are awesome, and I don't want to say who my fave is bc the next 2 rounds could totally change my thinking.
Well nothing says you can't come back and say you've changed your mind after a later round (heck, you might have to change your mind if your "favourite" ends up being knocked out before the end). It's sort of like rooting for your favourite sports team to make it to whatever the "big event" is for that sport (e.g., World Series, Super Bowl, Stanley Cup). More than anything you want your team to win, but if they get knocked out of the running you'll usually move on, watch the playoffs or semi-finals and put your support behind one of the teams who did make it through to the next level.
I really do think all six have produced awesome stuff and that any one of them could pull off the big win. But based on the strength of his work-to-date I'm unabashedly hitching my wagon to Rob's rising star.
It is theoretically possible that something submitted this or later rounds could topple Rob out of the "favourite" pedestal but it would have to be something pretty amazing when compared to whatever Rob produced that round - after all it would have to overcome the drag of the things that put them behind Rob in the first place.
So, consider me his number one fan and semi-official cheerleader: I'm standing here, wearing a V-neck letterman sweater with an "RM" monogram, a cute short multi-pannel skirt, some pom-poms in Rob's official colours (what're your two fav' colours Rob?) and a megaphone...
Rob McCreary, he's our man,
If he can't do it, no one can,
Ya-a-a-ay Rob!
:-j(enni)
Taliesin Hoyle |
I would have to go with:
James MacKenzie, Tucson, AZ (USA)
The Haunter of the Hills
Land of the Stained Peaks, Leash of the Shadowhound
Followed by:
Samuel Kisko, Morgantown, WV (USA)
Fleshstripping in Zopotishto
Yithnai, Migrus Locker
Or:
Russell Taylor, Eugene, OR (USA)
The Darkblight
Seskadrin, Satrap of the Ahestian Sea
Eluraelon
Gloves of Force Shaping
and:
McCreary, Prague (Czech Republic)
The Ooze Imperium
Onuyaka, the All-Seeing Eye
Iskandria
Coin Belt of Beguiling
goldomark Marathon Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 8 |
My favorite from day one has always been Christine. In each round I only voted for her, except the last one where all the psionic vilains took control of my mind.
Christine has a great imagination, refreshing really, and she as to work with the fact that english is not her native tongue. I know it's hard, I'm a french speaking québecois.
Bravo my dear, bravo!
propeliea |
Heh, I had this conversation in private the other day with Varianor. That said, I'm gonna hold this in reserve. There are three left that I personally favor, and one of them I see as most likley to take it, even if they aren't my top choice.
I don't have a top choice at this point, I swear. A few are close enough that the final rounds still matter to me.
Ragwaine |
I'm afraid the people I got really excited about have already left the competition. Looking at the top 16 I would really like to see more stuff from Neil McClean, Hal MacClean, and Sam (mac)Kisko. Their stuff made me feel fuzzy inside most consistently.
I'm not saying that I think the top 6 are untalented, just that they haven't really been consistently appealing to me. In almost every round I've voted for a couple of the least rated entries and a couple of the top rated entries (according to the "exit poll" thread) I guess it just shows how different and nuanced peoples preferences can be.
magdalena thiriet |
Well, Christine is the one I have voted so far every round, so obviously I'm rooting for her to continue to wow me.
But all the people here have shown both good and bad traits, so in a perfect world I would like to see some co-operation. Christine with Rob or Russell would be a treat...and Clinton and Joseph working together on Planescape would either produce The Best RPG Supplement Ever or something completely unreadable.
Jason Nelson Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games |
Well, Christine is the one I have voted so far every round, so obviously I'm rooting for her to continue to wow me.
But all the people here have shown both good and bad traits, so in a perfect world I would like to see some co-operation. Christine with Rob or Russell would be a treat...and Clinton and Joseph working together on Planescape would either produce The Best RPG Supplement Ever or something completely unreadable.
sniff
Now I feel so alone and left out... Not even an "oh by the way I guess Jason could come along too." Well, my mommy still likes me! So there!
At least I think she does... uh oh! :)
Anyway, as far as my favorite, I had to go back and check the "who has your vote" threads to make sure I remembered right, but my votes so far (in addition to voting for myself - hey, I think I've done good stuff!) have been for:
Countries:
Alexander MacLeod
Christine Schneider
James MacKenzie
Rob McCreary
Villains:
Christine Schneider
Joseph Yerger
Clinton Boomer
Monsters:
Christine Schneider (basically in a tie with Joe Outzen, but I'm pretty sure I ended up giving her the vote)
Russell Taylor
So far Christine is the only person other than myself that I've voted for more than once, and I've voted for her in each round, so by definition that would put her up at the top of my list. Still, we shall see. I didn't think Christine's last entry, while still good, was quite up to her previous level of coolness - hopefully that was just a blip and not a trend. Russell, on the other hand, I think has been doing better and better stuff every round, from an early 'meh' to last round ROCKIN!, so he has a chance to ride that momentum up, up, up. Only 4 hours left til the big reveal for round 5! Let's get this party started!
Rob McCreary aka Robert G. McCreary |
Wow, my very own cheerleader! You're making my girlfriend jealous, Matrissa! :)
I just hope to continue to improve and that people like what I come up with.
But there is definitely some heavy competition:
- Christine and her consistently impressive entries (and coming from a non-native speaker to boot, something I'm very familiar with as an English teacher over here in Europe - none of my students could do what she's doing!)
- Boomer and his explosive "gonzo" creativity (he's co-creator of the PSAs, what else would you expect? And I find myself strangely attracted to Hennet more and more when I see him in the vids...)
- Jason, who has had the most entries I've liked so far (I do believe I've voted for you in every round so far, sir)
BTW, purple is my favorite color, but I'm not sure it would go with any of my other favorite colors, so you can pick whatever doesn't clash with purple for your cheerleader outfit! :)
Jason Nelson Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games |
Wow, my very own cheerleader! You're making my girlfriend jealous, Matrissa! :)
I just hope to continue to improve and that people like what I come up with.
But there is definitely some heavy competition:
- Christine and her consistently impressive entries (and coming from a non-native speaker to boot, something I'm very familiar with as an English teacher over here in Europe - none of my students could do what she's doing!)
- Boomer and his explosive "gonzo" creativity (he's co-creator of the PSAs, what else would you expect? And I find myself strangely attracted to Hennet more and more when I see him in the vids...)
- Jason, who has had the most entries I've liked so far (I do believe I've voted for you in every round so far, sir)
BTW, purple is my favorite color, but I'm not sure it would go with any of my other favorite colors, so you can pick whatever doesn't clash with purple for your cheerleader outfit! :)
Go with Purple and Gold, says the fan of the Washington Huskies. Can't go wrong with good ol' Purple and Gold.
P.S. Thanks for the votes!
varianor |
I'm gonna hold this in reserve. There are three left that I personally favor, and one of them I see as most likley to take it, even if they aren't my top choice.
I don't have a top choice at this point, I swear. A few are close enough that the final rounds still matter to me.
Exactly. I know who I think will win. That doesn't necessarily dovetail with my favorite. However, who wants to play favorites? This has been a great production so far. Coolness abounds.
Samuel Kisko RPG Superstar 2008 Top 16 , Marathon Voter Season 6 aka Core |
James MacKenzie was my personal favorite.
He had a good combination of material that was different from the norm and maintained a high quality of writing. Most of the other entries I honestly found dry and a bit too much like the stuff you would have found in Dungeon. Quality wise this is good of course, but it is nothing that screamed 'fresh' to me.
I will honestly be somewhat irritated if one of the out of work professionals wins. Totally against the intentions of the contest in my opinion. They are not new, and they likely had ample opportunity already to be a 'superstar'.
Of the top 6, I'd have to Christine Schneider holds my interest the most, even though the villains entry I found a bit meh. But she has a unique outlook that rings the most fresh to me at the moment.
Russ Taylor Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 6 , Dedicated Voter Season 6 |
Matrissa the Enchantress |
SargonX wrote:BTW, purple is my favorite color, but I'm not sure it would go with any of my other favorite colors, so you can pick whatever doesn't clash with purple for your cheerleader outfit! :)Go with Purple and Gold, says the fan of the Washington Huskies. Can't go wrong with good ol' Purple and Gold.
Purple and something eh? Let me see....
- Purple and Gold - as Jason says, a classic.
- Purple and White - crisp and clean and also traditional
- Purple and Green - a strong combination (just ask a Drazi)
- Purple and Black - solid combo, but perhaps a bit too goth
- Purple and Red - dramatic and bold.
I started off leaning towards purple and green but, I think that simplicity demands purple and white.
Rah Rah Rob!
:-j(enni)
Maurice de Mare RPG Superstar 2013 Top 16 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9 aka Darkjoy |
Russ Taylor Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 6 , Dedicated Voter Season 6 |
Who's been published before?
I've been "published", but only in RPGA Living Greyhawk adventures or supplemental material. I think some people may be counting me as an out of work professional. Understand that writing an RPGA module is largely a matter of volunteering at the right time. Technically, I've been paid to write (for my first RPGA round, back when Living Greyhawk paid for regionals), the princely sum of $50 for 15,000 words. I did get some additional compensation (free product) while serving as a regional triad member for the Duchy of Urnst, in the interest of full disclosure. And I had a lot of fun doing it.
I'm not an out of work anything, I love my day job :)
Mainly posting this out of concern that I've been lumped into the "professional writer" category. I'm an amateur writer, professional sysadmin.
bubbagump |
Core wrote:Who's been published before?I've been "published", but only in RPGA Living Greyhawk adventures or supplemental material. I think some people may be counting me as an out of work professional. Understand that writing an RPGA module is largely a matter of volunteering at the right time. Technically, I've been paid to write (for my first RPGA round, back when Living Greyhawk paid for regionals), the princely sum of $50 for 15,000 words. I did get some additional compensation (free product) while serving as a regional triad member for the Duchy of Urnst, in the interest of full disclosure. And I had a lot of fun doing it.
I'm not an out of work anything, I love my day job :)
Mainly posting this out of concern that I've been lumped into the "professional writer" category. I'm an amateur writer, professional sysadmin.
Russ, I've read your stuff here, in LG, and elsewhere. You may not be a pro (yet), but you should be. Congrats on your success so far, and best wishes for your future success.
Jason Nelson Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games |
Core wrote:Who's been published before?
I will honestly be somewhat irritated if one of the out of work professionals wins. Totally against the intentions of the contest in my opinion. They are not new, and they likely had ample opportunity already to be a 'superstar'.
I assume Sam is mostly referring to me.
Like Russ, I have a full time job and it has nothing to do with gaming, and my 'career job search' is focused on finding a gig as a professor of education.
That said, I've had a one-page Class Acts published in Dragon (on variant cleric turning feats) and also an article of spells (some of which got included in the Spell Compendium) and 2 adventures published in Dungeon: "Man Forever" and "Practical Magic." I also used to write DMing advice articles for the WotC website called "Behind the Screen" and "Save My Game."
So, though I've never really gone past the level of moonlighting as a D&D writer, I have made some cash money (as the gangstas would say) doing it in the past.
I checked to see the rules before I entered the contest and I'm okay there. I've never had a cover credit on a sourcebook or hardbound or anything like that. Still, I understand what Sam is saying - a true "unknown" vs. somebody has already had some luck getting out there.
It's like the people on "American Idol" who are just John Q. Nobody vs. people who are profession musicians or backup singers or have worked up through smaller-scale versions of the show (Jordin Sparks, last year's winner, had previously won an "Arizona Idol" or some such thing, and several of the finalists were touring backup singers with big-name musical acts).
Sure, on one level you want to see the people you think are the best performers at their craft (whether it's singing there or D&D writing here), but on another level it's very satisfying to see what at least feels like pure, raw talent coming through and bursting onto the scene, fresh and new. It feels more pure, more right, when the winner is someone who made it ONLY because they got that chance and otherwise never would have gotten the exposure or the chance to break through. Of course, the career backup singer or the small-timer may say they have never had the chance to really be a star, to really have their own talent shine through, that they have just sort of lived around the fringes of their dreams and goals. It's a similar goal - to be a star - but coming from two different places.
Maybe in future contests they will go with Sam's idea, and if you've ever published anything anywhere, you're out. For this time around, we're all in. I've had a blast and put in a ton of hours working on my entries, reading others, making comments, reading comments, and getting to know a lot of cool people, and I hope everyone else around this contest has as well.
Vote with your head and heart. Decide whose work you like the best, cast your votes, and let the dice fall where they may!
Clinton Boomer Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4 |
Darkjoy wrote:
Who's been published before?I assume Sam is mostly referring to me.
*SNIP!*
And here I've been assuming that he was referring to ME! While I'm certainly not a "professional writer" - and am explicitly legally prohibited from ever making a dime off of the PSAs, seeing as how they're based on the Intellectual Property of Hasbro, a vast, billion-dollar multinational corporation that could crush me into a fine powder without blinking - I am a writer.
A writer who writes every day. A writer with work floating around out on the Intar-Webs. A writer who can be Googled. And, to a certain group of people, a FAR better known public figure than, por ejemplo, Christine.
This semi-demi-quasi-celebrity status as "the PSA guy" is both a good thing and a bad thing: on the one hand, this contest allows me to prove to people - well, to myself and to my mom, if to no one else - that my writing ability extends beyond the range of "dick jokes, but with dwarves".
The flip side is that I'm occasionally judged differently because my OTHER work. As Wik said, regarding my Round 2 entry:
"It'd be like voting for Rich Burlew if he showed up with a submission that was garbage. It's just not fair to those who have produced better pieces."
*still SUPER flattered just to be compared to the amazing Rich Burlew*
Point is: I've tried hard to overcome that perception by demonstrating that my writing really IS good, and I don't feel that I've benefitted inappropriately within Superstar from my fame (infamy?) as producer & writer of the CreativeJuices videos - but I'm not a total unknown within the greater online D&D-player community.
Matthew Morris RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8 , Star Voter Season 6 |
Wow. A bit off topic already?
I'll freely admt I'm pulling for Christine.
That said, to grumble that some of the top 32/16/8/6 have some writing credits under their belt is silly, I'd even call it petty.
I've been writing characters, adventures, and monsters for years. For my own pleasure. I don't have the courage to put much of my stuff 'out there' for critism. Not to mention they have more skill than I do.
That said, even if they've done some work freelancing, this is different, the big leagues.
Or to put it another way, this is to produce a new member of the Justice League. It doesn't matter if they're a new face (Vixex) or Flash and Red Arrow (both former sidekicks/Titans) It's the skill they have that makes them a League of their own.
propeliea |
Darkjoy wrote:Core wrote:Who's been published before?
I will honestly be somewhat irritated if one of the out of work professionals wins. Totally against the intentions of the contest in my opinion. They are not new, and they likely had ample opportunity already to be a 'superstar'.
I assume Sam is mostly referring to me.
Like Russ, I have a full time job and it has nothing to do with gaming, and my 'career job search' is focused on finding a gig as a professor of education.
Sure, on one level you want to see the people you think are the best performers at their craft (whether it's singing there or D&D writing here), but on another level it's very satisfying to see what at least feels like pure, raw talent coming through and bursting onto the scene, fresh and new. It feels more pure, more right,...
Idol is full of backup singers and semi pros. Nelson has every right to be here, and his writing shows it. He qualifies under the rules and I believe other Superstars already out had more credits than he did.
Now, I'll come clean and state that I'm biased. I entered the contest, without making any round, with a few Dragon publications and some contribtions to third party books. I also happen to be in Academe and even assistant edit a refereed journal; so maybe I more than a little close to Jason's position. You can take that into account, but he's earned the place, and by no means a professional. Nor should it be like he's 'had hsi chance.' A few publications, a handful of stories, or whatever is more an apprenticeship than a career.
Also, Boomer, you've definitely shown excellence in your writing. Don't even think for a moment it's been a name run for ya.
Samuel Kisko RPG Superstar 2008 Top 16 , Marathon Voter Season 6 aka Core |
I had no one in particular in mind with that statement. In a thread long ago it was just surprising to learn that something like half of the contestants at that time were published rpg authors in one form or another. This just seemed to be counter intuitive to the 'discover new talent' objective of the contest. But that is just a solitary opinion from a meager gamer, so /shrug.
Jason Nelson Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games |
We luv ya Sam-and ya had great stuff. Hopefully, it'll still be a launching pad for ya.
Ditto from me. I didn't take it as a knock even if you had meant me. It's a reasonable point regardless.
Besides, much like with American Idol, there will likely be more than one 'winner' from this contest in terms of opportunities to write game stuff. Some of it is just from exposure, whether having something to put on a cover letter on a submission or even getting an invite from someone to contribute, and you (Sam) are one who definitely attracted notice with the Migrus Locker and Yithnai regardless of whether you kicked down the door to the final 4.
Jorrik the Fat |
Looking back over previous rounds, of the remaining six, only three have ever got my vote in previous rounds. Although, having said that, Rob has, I think, every time, been 'the person I'd have voted for if I'd had just one extra vote'. Which is pretty good going, if not quite good enough. For the others, I've voted for Russell and Boomer twice, and Christine three times (I missed the vote for the country round, so those figures are out of three). So I'll probably be deciding between those three in the final round - assuming they all get through, of course. So far, I'd edge towards Christine as my personal favourite... but it will really will depend on that final entry.
As for previous publications, it doesn't seem that any of them have the sort of established track-record that makes me think they're entering against the spirit of the rules. Heck, I'd be eligible to enter the contest, but from the comments above, it looks like I've earned more from writing RPG supplements than any of the entrants (all of them softcover, though, and the entry rules specified hardcover...), and I can't really hold it against someone that they've done less well than I have! After all, if I did post my name here, I can pretty much guarantee you'd all go 'who?', google me, and then go 'oh, right, never read that...'. And if I ain't a professional, or even approaching it, then none of these guys are.
Yet. :)
Maurice de Mare RPG Superstar 2013 Top 16 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9 aka Darkjoy |
Well, the only name I recognized from the top 32 was Hal's, but that was just because he'd posted on this board before. All the others didn't give me a 'aha' name recognition momemt.
And as mr. Mona mentioned a few weeks earlier, real professionals can just contact Paizo with their proposals.
Mmm, have any of you (contestants) been contacted yet to write something, anything as a freelancer?
magdalena thiriet |
Now I feel so alone and left out... Not even an "oh by the way I guess Jason could come along too." Well, my mommy still likes me! So there!
Aww, didn't mean to snub anyone...I mentioned Rob and Russell because they have made very solid, directly usable entries while still at least for me often lacking that extra oomph...while Christine has big concepts but occaisonally questionable realization of those. Covering each other's weaknesses.
And Clinton and Joseph have done very gonzo weirdness entries, so together they would probably go to very strange directions...Of you, I haven't yet been able to make up my mind, you haven't shown clear strengths nor weaknesses.
And allow me to emphasize that I have enjoyed all the top 8 writers' works (and several people who were dropped on earlier rounds too), and hope to see more from you in the future.
Joseph Yerger RPG Superstar 2008 Top 8 |
Rhothaerill |
Based on my voting history, Christine would be my favorite. I've enjoyed, and voted for, her work every single round. From what I've seen she could be a kick-ass designer. :)
Of the remaining six, Rob and Jason would be my next two favorites, also from voting history. Of the contestants that have gone by the wayside, James McKenzie would have been up there for his country alone, my favorite from that round.
Vladislav Rashkovski RPG Superstar 2009 Top 16 aka Clandestine |
When did I go gonzo?
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I got the gonzo feel from your country. Plus it had Rasputin. The innovative approach to the concept of a country is what made me vote for you in round 2.
As of now, I'd be wholeheartedly satisfied with a quadruple win by my four favourite contestants. I'm sure they'd be the ones to continue to round 6. After they do, it'd be internal agony for me to vote.
Joseph Yerger RPG Superstar 2008 Top 8 |
Joseph Yerger wrote:When did I go gonzo?Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I got the gonzo feel from your country. Plus it had Rasputin. The innovative approach to the concept of a country is what made me vote for you in round 2.
Cool. Thanks. Never considered it gonzo to me, but I suppose that what seems normal to oneself may be gonzo to another.
Avianna |
If I had to choose a favorite, it would be Christina. I fell in love with her at "Severed Head of a Dying Deity"
However, overall, I just want to see Jason, Rob, Clinton and Christina make it to the last round. They have constantly shown me interesting ideas and I want them to move onto the last round so I can continue to see those ideas out until the very end.
JasonKain |
I fully admit I'm a fan of Russ. At least what this contest has shown me is that he can write to the point, effective material, and that's what I'm interested in. His entries made me consider running aquatic games, and that's something I dismissed entirely for a long time.
That said, I'd be lying if I said that almost every one of the contestants has impressed the hell out of me.
Samuel Kisko RPG Superstar 2008 Top 16 , Marathon Voter Season 6 aka Core |
We luv ya Sam-and ya had great stuff. Hopefully, it'll still be a launching pad for ya.
Eh, I looked up the going rates for what the rpg professionals make and wow.. I mean I knew it was a labor of love, but I think could make more selling bags of burnt twigs and gravel on eBay. So in that respect I am glad I lost to make way for someone more devoted, I think I will stick to the hobbyist level of writing.
I definitely have a new respect for the full-time authors however.
Lisa Stevens CEO |
Eh, I looked up the going rates for what the rpg professionals make and wow.. I mean I knew it was a labor of love, but I think could make more selling bags of burnt twigs and gravel on eBay. So in that respect I am glad I lost to make way for someone more devoted, I think I will stick to the hobbyist level of writing.
Hey Sam:
Not sure where you got your information, but Paizo tends to pay top dollar in our industry for writing stuff for us. Based on some of the rates I have seen some of the smaller publishers pay, I can say that we pay anywhere from 2 to 8 times as much as them! You aren't going to get super rich writing for us, but you can make a living.
That may still not be enough for you, but I wanted to let you know that Paizo pays much higher than the industry average.
-Lisa
Maurice de Mare RPG Superstar 2013 Top 16 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9 aka Darkjoy |
Samuel Kisko RPG Superstar 2008 Top 16 , Marathon Voter Season 6 aka Core |
My morbid curiosity turned up about two cents a word as the going rate for rpg authors. This is by no means indicative of Paizo since I did not see your going rate on the site off-hand.
I suppose the real issue is the same with any contractor; insurance, retirement, and taxes. Also the real world issues that contractors deal with; late payments (or even non-payments), products going under, businesses going under, lawyer fees, and other business fiascoes that are far more common that anyone would like. I see this sort of thing first hand all the time from the software industry.
I think if I was dead set on getting in the rpg industry I would not go the author-contractor route. Rather I would get in on the business end - get full-time employment at one of the better known places and then work from the top down. Eventually working on the creative elements part-time while carrying a business work load.
Full-time authors have it much harder I think; unless you are very prolific, well connected, and frankly good at your job. This is speculation however on my part, I am a true outsider to the rpg industry. As it is I am comfortable with being a hobbyist and having a slim chance to get a article or two published somewhere. Or even just submitting various ideas to creativity contests :P
Samuel Kisko RPG Superstar 2008 Top 16 , Marathon Voter Season 6 aka Core |
Also the real world issues that contractors deal with; late payments (or even non-payments), products going under, businesses going under, lawyer fees, and other business fiascoes that are far more common that anyone would like.
Ironically 24 hours after posting this I read Black Industries is folding in the rpg market, GW is deciding in favor of novels instead. Warhammer Fantasy RP was one of the better games in recent year in my opinion. Sad to see it go.
Jason Nelson Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games |
Core wrote:Also the real world issues that contractors deal with; late payments (or even non-payments), products going under, businesses going under, lawyer fees, and other business fiascoes that are far more common that anyone would like.Ironically 24 hours after posting this I read Black Industries is folding in the rpg market, GW is deciding in favor of novels instead. Warhammer Fantasy RP was one of the better games in recent year in my opinion. Sad to see it go.
I loved the art and design of the original WFRP game (I haven't seen any newer versions of it). I thought their class/career advancement tree system was an interesting idea too, though I never played more than one or two games of it so I never really got to see how it played out long-term. Overall, I didn't really care for the mechanics of the system, but over the years I have mined many fun ideas from it.
And did I mention I loved the artwork. Hrothyogg's Tower was my favorite.
Nightstalkers |
This semi-demi-quasi-celebrity status as "the PSA guy" is both a good thing and a bad thing: on the one hand, this contest allows me to prove to people - well, to myself and to my mom, if to no one else - that my writing ability extends beyond the range of "dick jokes, but with dwarves".
The dwarven dick jokes will still be my favorites, Boom.
I'm biased, though.
~~~Nightstalkers, Tordek's Alter Ego
Steven Helt RPG Superstar 2013 , Dedicated Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9 aka Steven T. Helt |
Core wrote:Also the real world issues that contractors deal with; late payments (or even non-payments), products going under, businesses going under, lawyer fees, and other business fiascoes that are far more common that anyone would like.Ironically 24 hours after posting this I read Black Industries is folding in the rpg market, GW is deciding in favor of novels instead. Warhammer Fantasy RP was one of the better games in recent year in my opinion. Sad to see it go.
Thatseems strange - they are just now releasing their first line of 40k rpg stuff. Apparently they are either not foldingright away, have really changed their mminds, or Black Industries is somehow not the licensed 40k rpg company.
I wonder how much fun it is to play a space marine. Hope they include uides for being a clone, but still having some personality. Is it fun to be able to stand your ground against 50 imperial guard?
Kill the breeders.