paizo.com Recent Posts in Round 4: Who Got Your 3 Votes?paizo.com Recent Posts in Round 4: Who Got Your 3 Votes?2012-11-15T19:45:16Z2012-11-15T19:45:16ZRe: Forums/RPG SuperstarTM 2008: General Discussion: Round 4: Who Got Your 3 Votes?Tiohttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2hu8k&page=2?Round-4-Who-Got-Your-3-Votes#1002008-01-19T17:16:55Z2008-01-19T17:16:54Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">A Grave Man wrote:</div><blockquote><p>I agree with the influence idea, obviously—it's been my raison d'etre on this board/thread. Wish you'd used a different example though, as Oprah's endorsement (by itself) didn't seem to have a significant effect on the primaries. And, to me at least, the USA part skirted the edge of being condescending. </p>
<p>But I appreciate you taking the time to help me understand what you were going for. </blockquote><p>I used the USA part because most people on this board will know the people involved and it's in the actuality right now. If I had used an example of my own country then about 0.001% of the board would have understood what I was aiming for. It was in no way intended to be condescending towards the USA.A Grave Man wrote:I agree with the influence idea, obviously--it's been my raison d'etre on this board/thread. Wish you'd used a different example though, as Oprah's endorsement (by itself) didn't seem to have a significant effect on the primaries. And, to me at least, the USA part skirted the edge of being condescending.
But I appreciate you taking the time to help me understand what you were going for.
I used the USA part because most people on this board will know the people involved and...Tio2008-01-19T17:16:54ZRe: Forums/RPG SuperstarTM 2008: General Discussion: Round 4: Who Got Your 3 Votes?Joseph Yergerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2hu8k&page=2?Round-4-Who-Got-Your-3-Votes#992008-01-19T07:57:23Z2008-01-19T07:57:21Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Ragwaine wrote:</div><blockquote>I didn't know Arneson was from down here. I would like to meet him or Gygax one day just to say thanks for uncountable hours of entertainment. </blockquote><p>He actually is a teacher of game design at Fullsail, which is an advanced track degree program school. I've been trying to meet him myself, heres hoping it will finally happen at Megacon this March.Ragwaine wrote:I didn't know Arneson was from down here. I would like to meet him or Gygax one day just to say thanks for uncountable hours of entertainment.
He actually is a teacher of game design at Fullsail, which is an advanced track degree program school. I've been trying to meet him myself, heres hoping it will finally happen at Megacon this March.Joseph Yerger2008-01-19T07:57:21ZRe: Forums/RPG SuperstarTM 2008: General Discussion: Round 4: Who Got Your 3 Votes?Ragwainehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2hu8k&page=2?Round-4-Who-Got-Your-3-Votes#982008-01-19T06:48:22Z2008-01-19T06:48:19Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Joseph Yerger wrote:</div><blockquote> Thank you Ragwaine! It was what I aimed for. If you recall, initially there were 2 people from Florida who made it to 32, both surprisingly in Sarasota. Neither of us know each other either. I'm sure there were many others in Florida. There are a great many gamers here in both Miami and Orlando (Orlando has Dave Arneson and Blackmoor). </blockquote><p>Actually I think there were 3 including you in the top 32 because I remember saying, "No wonder I didn't make it all the Florida karma got sucked up by those 3". It is kind of strange, maybe it means Floridians in general are slackers who have enough time to play role-playing games (and compete in contests).
<p>I didn't know Arneson was from down here. I would like to meet him or Gygax one day just to say thanks for uncountable hours of entertainment.</p>Joseph Yerger wrote:Thank you Ragwaine! It was what I aimed for. If you recall, initially there were 2 people from Florida who made it to 32, both surprisingly in Sarasota. Neither of us know each other either. I'm sure there were many others in Florida. There are a great many gamers here in both Miami and Orlando (Orlando has Dave Arneson and Blackmoor).
Actually I think there were 3 including you in the top 32 because I remember saying, "No wonder I didn't make it all the Florida karma got...Ragwaine2008-01-19T06:48:19ZRe: Forums/RPG SuperstarTM 2008: General Discussion: Round 4: Who Got Your 3 Votes?propelieahttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2hu8k&page=2?Round-4-Who-Got-Your-3-Votes#972008-01-19T03:44:12Z2008-01-19T03:44:11Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Joseph Yerger wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Ragwaine wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Joseph Yerger wrote:</div><blockquote> I must admit seeing varianor admit to voting for me here, really made my day. THANKS! </blockquote><p>Hey I voted for you too. (even though you stole some of the Florida karma from the first round making sure that there was none left for me!) I want to be famous!
<p>I found your monsters much more usable than at least a couple of the other entries and I liked the fact that they didn't all have to be used together. Many of the ones that made it through sound much more like campaign style villains to me than monsters I could use as a single encounter. </blockquote>Thank you Ragwaine! It was what I aimed for. If you recall, initially there were 2 people from Florida who made it to 32, both surprisingly in Sarasota. Neither of us know each other either. I'm sure there were many others in Florida. There are a great many gamers here in both Miami and Orlando (Orlando has Dave Arneson and Blackmoor). </blockquote><p>Ooo, I may check that out. Orlando is my top backup choice for phd programs next year after Oxford.Joseph Yerger wrote:Ragwaine wrote: Joseph Yerger wrote: I must admit seeing varianor admit to voting for me here, really made my day. THANKS!
Hey I voted for you too. (even though you stole some of the Florida karma from the first round making sure that there was none left for me!) I want to be famous! I found your monsters much more usable than at least a couple of the other entries and I liked the fact that they didn't all have to be used together. Many of the ones that made it through...propeliea2008-01-19T03:44:11ZRe: Forums/RPG SuperstarTM 2008: General Discussion: Round 4: Who Got Your 3 Votes?Joseph Yergerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2hu8k&page=2?Round-4-Who-Got-Your-3-Votes#962008-01-18T23:36:07Z2008-01-18T23:36:04Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Ragwaine wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Joseph Yerger wrote:</div><blockquote> I must admit seeing varianor admit to voting for me here, really made my day. THANKS! </blockquote><p>Hey I voted for you too. (even though you stole some of the Florida karma from the first round making sure that there was none left for me!) I want to be famous!
<p>I found your monsters much more usable than at least a couple of the other entries and I liked the fact that they didn't all have to be used together. Many of the ones that made it through sound much more like campaign style villains to me than monsters I could use as a single encounter. </blockquote><p>Thank you Ragwaine! It was what I aimed for. If you recall, initially there were 2 people from Florida who made it to 32, both surprisingly in Sarasota. Neither of us know each other either. I'm sure there were many others in Florida. There are a great many gamers here in both Miami and Orlando (Orlando has Dave Arneson and Blackmoor).Ragwaine wrote:Joseph Yerger wrote: I must admit seeing varianor admit to voting for me here, really made my day. THANKS!
Hey I voted for you too. (even though you stole some of the Florida karma from the first round making sure that there was none left for me!) I want to be famous! I found your monsters much more usable than at least a couple of the other entries and I liked the fact that they didn't all have to be used together. Many of the ones that made it through sound much more like...Joseph Yerger2008-01-18T23:36:04ZRe: Forums/RPG SuperstarTM 2008: General Discussion: Round 4: Who Got Your 3 Votes?Ragwainehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2hu8k&page=2?Round-4-Who-Got-Your-3-Votes#952008-01-18T19:37:59Z2008-01-18T19:37:58Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Joseph Yerger wrote:</div><blockquote> I must admit seeing varianor admit to voting for me here, really made my day. THANKS! </blockquote><p>Hey I voted for you too. (even though you stole some of the Florida karma from the first round making sure that there was none left for me!) I want to be famous!
<p>I found your monsters much more usable than at least a couple of the other entries and I liked the fact that they didn't all have to be used together. Many of the ones that made it through sound much more like campaign style villains to me than monsters I could use as a single encounter.</p>Joseph Yerger wrote:I must admit seeing varianor admit to voting for me here, really made my day. THANKS!
Hey I voted for you too. (even though you stole some of the Florida karma from the first round making sure that there was none left for me!) I want to be famous! I found your monsters much more usable than at least a couple of the other entries and I liked the fact that they didn't all have to be used together. Many of the ones that made it through sound much more like campaign style...Ragwaine2008-01-18T19:37:58ZRe: Forums/RPG SuperstarTM 2008: General Discussion: Round 4: Who Got Your 3 Votes?A Grave Man (alias of Munchies420isgood)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2hu8k&page=2?Round-4-Who-Got-Your-3-Votes#942008-01-18T17:20:33Z2008-01-18T17:20:32Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Tio wrote:</div><blockquote><p> I meant to say that people are influenced by what others say or do. Famous people are often asked to support opinions, people or products. The reasoning behind this is that famous people act as rolemodels for others to follow. I was suggesting that this could also be the case in posting your votes in this thread and the comments in other threads about the submissions. These will always influence others. So if we were to outlaw this thread we should also outlaw comments about the submissions. Not only by us the voting public, but also by the Jury. I don't think anyone wants that little trinket taken away.</p>
<p>Personally I feel it greatly adds to the excitement and vigor of the contest. </blockquote><p>I agree with the influence idea, obviously—it's been my raison d'etre on this board/thread. Wish you'd used a different example though, as Oprah's endorsement (by itself) didn't seem to have a significant effect on the primaries. And, to me at least, the USA part skirted the edge of being condescending.
<p>But I appreciate you taking the time to help me understand what you were going for.</p>Tio wrote:I meant to say that people are influenced by what others say or do. Famous people are often asked to support opinions, people or products. The reasoning behind this is that famous people act as rolemodels for others to follow. I was suggesting that this could also be the case in posting your votes in this thread and the comments in other threads about the submissions. These will always influence others. So if we were to outlaw this thread we should also outlaw comments about the...A Grave Man (alias of Munchies420isgood)2008-01-18T17:20:32ZRe: Forums/RPG SuperstarTM 2008: General Discussion: Round 4: Who Got Your 3 Votes?Tiohttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2hu8k&page=2?Round-4-Who-Got-Your-3-Votes#932008-01-18T09:36:46Z2008-01-18T09:36:43Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">A Grave Man wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Tio wrote:</div><blockquote><br />
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Or you can see it as Oprah showing her support for Obama. How many people will vote for Obama just because Oprah supports him??? Remember, that election is held in the USA. </blockquote>And finally, I am completely mystified by the final USA comment. Would a request for a clarification be out of line? </blockquote><p>I meant to say that people are influenced by what others say or do. Famous people are often asked to support opinions, people or products. The reasoning behind this is that famous people act as rolemodels for others to follow. I was suggesting that this could also be the case in posting your votes in this thread and the comments in other threads about the submissions. These will always influence others. So if we were to outlaw this thread we should also outlaw comments about the submissions. Not only by us the voting public, but also by the Jury. I don't think anyone wants that little trinket taken away.
<p>Personally I feel it greatly adds to the excitement and vigor of the contest.</p>A Grave Man wrote:Tio wrote:
Or you can see it as Oprah showing her support for Obama. How many people will vote for Obama just because Oprah supports him??? Remember, that election is held in the USA.
And finally, I am completely mystified by the final USA comment. Would a request for a clarification be out of line? I meant to say that people are influenced by what others say or do. Famous people are often asked to support opinions, people or products. The reasoning behind this is that...Tio2008-01-18T09:36:43ZRe: Forums/RPG SuperstarTM 2008: General Discussion: Round 4: Who Got Your 3 Votes?Jason Nelsonhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2hu8k&page=2?Round-4-Who-Got-Your-3-Votes#922008-01-17T22:05:43Z2008-01-17T22:05:43Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Russ Taylor wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">A Grave Man wrote:</div><blockquote><p>I'd ask if Christine, Jason and Russell (as the clear front-runners of the polling) felt half as worried about going through as they would have without a poll. Conversely, I'd ask Joseph (as the apparent odd man out) how seeing the projections affected him.
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</blockquote>It's nice to have some idea what the outcome will be, including in the rounds where I've finished closer to the cutoff than I likely did this last one. I'd just as soon the full voting results remain secret, though. Too much temptation to manipulate the vote if you can see the results. </blockquote><p>Definitely. Obviously there's enough temptation even with this tiny sample, however representative or not.Russ Taylor wrote:A Grave Man wrote:I'd ask if Christine, Jason and Russell (as the clear front-runners of the polling) felt half as worried about going through as they would have without a poll. Conversely, I'd ask Joseph (as the apparent odd man out) how seeing the projections affected him.
It's nice to have some idea what the outcome will be, including in the rounds where I've finished closer to the cutoff than I likely did this last one. I'd just as soon the full voting results remain...Jason Nelson2008-01-17T22:05:43ZRe: Forums/RPG SuperstarTM 2008: General Discussion: Round 4: Who Got Your 3 Votes?Russ Taylorhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2hu8k&page=2?Round-4-Who-Got-Your-3-Votes#912008-01-17T21:27:25Z2008-01-17T21:27:25Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">A Grave Man wrote:</div><blockquote><p>I'd ask if Christine, Jason and Russell (as the clear front-runners of the polling) felt half as worried about going through as they would have without a poll. Conversely, I'd ask Joseph (as the apparent odd man out) how seeing the projections affected him.
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</blockquote><p>It's nice to have some idea what the outcome will be, including in the rounds where I've finished closer to the cutoff than I likely did this last one. I'd just as soon the full voting results remain secret, though. Too much temptation to manipulate the vote if you can see the results.A Grave Man wrote:I'd ask if Christine, Jason and Russell (as the clear front-runners of the polling) felt half as worried about going through as they would have without a poll. Conversely, I'd ask Joseph (as the apparent odd man out) how seeing the projections affected him.
It's nice to have some idea what the outcome will be, including in the rounds where I've finished closer to the cutoff than I likely did this last one. I'd just as soon the full voting results remain secret, though. Too...Russ Taylor2008-01-17T21:27:25ZRe: Forums/RPG SuperstarTM 2008: General Discussion: Round 4: Who Got Your 3 Votes?Jason Nelsonhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2hu8k&page=2?Round-4-Who-Got-Your-3-Votes#902008-01-17T21:05:26Z2008-01-17T21:05:24Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">A Grave Man wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Tio wrote:</div><blockquote><br />
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There were only 40 voters who posted their exit polls. I think that that is a very very small portion of the actual voters. Personally I think there are at least 1000 voters, which would make the exit poll results only a 4% indication of the actual result. And that is IF everyone posts their actual votes. In addition there is the vibe you can get from the actual submissions and the comments made there. Therefor, just like in an actual election, voting should be confidential.</p>
<p>My comment was made to indicate that I also like the way we try to predict the future based on 4% of the voting public. That we can be right indicates that the ones posting their results have a good feeling to what the rest of the public want. Or you can see it as Oprah showing her support for Obama. How many people will vote for Obama just because Oprah supports him??? Remember, that election is held in the USA. </blockquote><p>That has too many ifs and assumptions to be a theory you can hang your hat on. I just don't see the point in trying to predict the winners, especially now that we've already seen one instance where the projection was correct. There's an appreciable difference in anticipation, nervousness and excitement.
<p>I'd ask if Christine, Jason and Russell (as the clear front-runners of the polling) felt half as worried about going through as they would have without a poll. Conversely, I'd ask Joseph (as the apparent odd man out) how seeing the projections affected him.</p>
<p>And finally, I am completely mystified by the final USA comment. Would a request for a clarification be out of line? </blockquote><p>As for me, I found the poll numbers reassuring.
<p>I had a pretty good sense of a generally positive regard for the entry from my thread, but based on the total sense of posts from everyone (even though the judges' comments were good), I wouldn't have called it a shoo-in for one of the top spots. </p>
<p>Each round is survive and advance, survive and advance. Do your best to knock it out of the park, as Russ said, but make sure you get to the next base so you still have a chance to keep on moving. If I get to the final round of 4, that will be the most nerve-wracking, because there are no more fall-backs. No more "well, I like this AND that AND this one over here." It's one single vote for your grade A #1 favorite and no votes for anybody else. </p>
<p>Of course, I gotta make sure I do my best in THIS round before I worry about that. Time to get back to work!</p>A Grave Man wrote:Tio wrote:
There were only 40 voters who posted their exit polls. I think that that is a very very small portion of the actual voters. Personally I think there are at least 1000 voters, which would make the exit poll results only a 4% indication of the actual result. And that is IF everyone posts their actual votes. In addition there is the vibe you can get from the actual submissions and the comments made there. Therefor, just like in an actual election, voting should be...Jason Nelson2008-01-17T21:05:24ZRe: Forums/RPG SuperstarTM 2008: General Discussion: Round 4: Who Got Your 3 Votes?Joseph Yergerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2hu8k&page=2?Round-4-Who-Got-Your-3-Votes#892008-01-17T19:51:06Z2008-01-17T19:51:06Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">varianor wrote:</div><blockquote> Am I famous? :) </blockquote><p>Of course!varianor wrote:Am I famous? :)
Of course!Joseph Yerger2008-01-17T19:51:06ZRe: Forums/RPG SuperstarTM 2008: General Discussion: Round 4: Who Got Your 3 Votes?varianorhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2hu8k&page=2?Round-4-Who-Got-Your-3-Votes#882008-01-17T19:46:54Z2008-01-17T19:46:53Z<p>Am I famous? :)</p>Am I famous? :)varianor2008-01-17T19:46:53ZRe: Forums/RPG SuperstarTM 2008: General Discussion: Round 4: Who Got Your 3 Votes?Joseph Yergerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2hu8k&page=2?Round-4-Who-Got-Your-3-Votes#872008-01-17T18:55:29Z2008-01-17T18:55:28Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">A Grave Man wrote:</div><blockquote><p>Conversely, I'd ask Joseph (as the apparent odd man out) how seeing the projections affected him./QUOTE]</p>
<p>Personally, I took things very hard myself. I'm not one who ever seeks affirmation or even care about peoples opinions regarding myself but this was one forum where it did matter to me quite a bit and was very hard. I'm not used to feeling that bad about something I'd done.</p>
<p>This thread, didn't affect me much as I'd been counted out in earlier rounds by it but managed to forge on ahead. It was my personal monster thread that was my downer. </p>
<p>I must admit seeing varianor admit to voting for me here, really made my day. THANKS!</p>A Grave Man wrote:Conversely, I'd ask Joseph (as the apparent odd man out) how seeing the projections affected him./QUOTE]
Personally, I took things very hard myself. I'm not one who ever seeks affirmation or even care about peoples opinions regarding myself but this was one forum where it did matter to me quite a bit and was very hard. I'm not used to feeling that bad about something I'd done.
This thread, didn't affect me much as I'd been counted out in earlier rounds by it but managed to...Joseph Yerger2008-01-17T18:55:28ZRe: Forums/RPG SuperstarTM 2008: General Discussion: Round 4: Who Got Your 3 Votes?A Grave Man (alias of Munchies420isgood)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2hu8k&page=2?Round-4-Who-Got-Your-3-Votes#862008-01-17T18:34:02Z2008-01-17T18:34:00Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Tio wrote:</div><blockquote><br />
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There were only 40 voters who posted their exit polls. I think that that is a very very small portion of the actual voters. Personally I think there are at least 1000 voters, which would make the exit poll results only a 4% indication of the actual result. And that is IF everyone posts their actual votes. In addition there is the vibe you can get from the actual submissions and the comments made there. Therefor, just like in an actual election, voting should be confidential.</p>
<p>My comment was made to indicate that I also like the way we try to predict the future based on 4% of the voting public. That we can be right indicates that the ones posting their results have a good feeling to what the rest of the public want. Or you can see it as Oprah showing her support for Obama. How many people will vote for Obama just because Oprah supports him??? Remember, that election is held in the USA. </blockquote><p>That has too many ifs and assumptions to be a theory you can hang your hat on. I just don't see the point in trying to predict the winners, especially now that we've already seen one instance where the projection was correct. There's an appreciable difference in anticipation, nervousness and excitement.
<p>I'd ask if Christine, Jason and Russell (as the clear front-runners of the polling) felt half as worried about going through as they would have without a poll. Conversely, I'd ask Joseph (as the apparent odd man out) how seeing the projections affected him.</p>
<p>And finally, I am completely mystified by the final USA comment. Would a request for a clarification be out of line?</p>Tio wrote:There were only 40 voters who posted their exit polls. I think that that is a very very small portion of the actual voters. Personally I think there are at least 1000 voters, which would make the exit poll results only a 4% indication of the actual result. And that is IF everyone posts their actual votes. In addition there is the vibe you can get from the actual submissions and the comments made there. Therefor, just like in an actual election, voting should be confidential.My...A Grave Man (alias of Munchies420isgood)2008-01-17T18:34:00ZRe: Forums/RPG SuperstarTM 2008: General Discussion: Round 4: Who Got Your 3 Votes?magdalena thiriethttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2hu8k&page=2?Round-4-Who-Got-Your-3-Votes#852008-01-17T12:17:49Z2008-01-17T12:17:48Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">propeliea wrote:</div><blockquote><p> It does indeed appear that way. Wonder if it's due to fewer contestants or if actual voting has slipped.</p>
<p>Though we don't actually know if our order is correct, just that we picked the six. </blockquote><p>I'd say it's fewer contestants...if we have fewer choices, smaller sample of voters becomes more and more representative.
<p>Though indeed if this thread got the order right is questionable, but wouldn't be surprised if the top 3 shown here was top 3 of the actual contest. And should these exit polls continue, we will probably start getting correct order too in the next round or the one after that.</p>
<p>Also noticed that Oliver was taking something of a gamble, thinking that Clinton was a shoo-in when the exit polls here showed it was not the case...</p>propeliea wrote:It does indeed appear that way. Wonder if it's due to fewer contestants or if actual voting has slipped.
Though we don't actually know if our order is correct, just that we picked the six.
I'd say it's fewer contestants...if we have fewer choices, smaller sample of voters becomes more and more representative. Though indeed if this thread got the order right is questionable, but wouldn't be surprised if the top 3 shown here was top 3 of the actual contest. And should these...magdalena thiriet2008-01-17T12:17:48ZRe: Forums/RPG SuperstarTM 2008: General Discussion: Round 4: Who Got Your 3 Votes?Tiohttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2hu8k&page=2?Round-4-Who-Got-Your-3-Votes#842008-01-17T09:12:06Z2008-01-17T09:12:04Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">A Grave Man wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Tio wrote:</div><blockquote> And yes, this time the prediction is completely accurate in who went through. Let's see if we can do that for the next round also. </blockquote><p>Why? Whether or not my point from before was proven, to honestly attempt to predict the winner from this poll is what...one step shy of doing away with the actual voting part?
<p>I hereby propose that there no longer be a separate, confidential voting booth. Let's have it out in the open. It's pretty much what's going on anyway. </blockquote><p>There were only 40 voters who posted their exit polls. I think that that is a very very small portion of the actual voters. Personally I think there are at least 1000 voters, which would make the exit poll results only a 4% indication of the actual result. And that is IF everyone posts their actual votes. In addition there is the vibe you can get from the actual submissions and the comments made there. Therefor, just like in an actual election, voting should be confidential.
<p>My comment was made to indicate that I also like the way we try to predict the future based on 4% of the voting public. That we can be right indicates that the ones posting their results have a good feeling to what the rest of the public want. Or you can see it as Oprah showing her support for Obama. How many people will vote for Obama just because Oprah supports him??? Remember, that election is held in the USA.</p>A Grave Man wrote:Tio wrote: And yes, this time the prediction is completely accurate in who went through. Let's see if we can do that for the next round also.
Why? Whether or not my point from before was proven, to honestly attempt to predict the winner from this poll is what...one step shy of doing away with the actual voting part? I hereby propose that there no longer be a separate, confidential voting booth. Let's have it out in the open. It's pretty much what's going on anyway. There...Tio2008-01-17T09:12:04ZRe: Forums/RPG SuperstarTM 2008: General Discussion: Round 4: Who Got Your 3 Votes?A Grave Man (alias of Munchies420isgood)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2hu8k&page=2?Round-4-Who-Got-Your-3-Votes#832008-01-16T23:14:22Z2008-01-16T23:14:21Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Tio wrote:</div><blockquote> And yes, this time the prediction is completely accurate in who went through. Let's see if we can do that for the next round also. </blockquote><p>Why? Whether or not my point from before was proven, to honestly attempt to predict the winner from this poll is what...one step shy of doing away with the actual voting part?
<p>I hereby propose that there no longer be a separate, confidential voting booth. Let's have it out in the open. It's pretty much what's going on anyway.</p>Tio wrote:And yes, this time the prediction is completely accurate in who went through. Let's see if we can do that for the next round also.
Why? Whether or not my point from before was proven, to honestly attempt to predict the winner from this poll is what...one step shy of doing away with the actual voting part? I hereby propose that there no longer be a separate, confidential voting booth. Let's have it out in the open. It's pretty much what's going on anyway.A Grave Man (alias of Munchies420isgood)2008-01-16T23:14:21ZRe: Forums/RPG SuperstarTM 2008: General Discussion: Round 4: Who Got Your 3 Votes?Tiohttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2hu8k&page=2?Round-4-Who-Got-Your-3-Votes#822008-01-16T22:10:37Z2008-01-16T22:10:37Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Nem-Z wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">propeliea wrote:</div><blockquote>We've been close, but never exact. Worse (or better?), we may very well be due for a big surprise. </blockquote><p>...except this time if you take the final two voters into account we were dead-on.
<p>Just saying. </blockquote><p>I had stated before that I might change my vote to Rob. And my gamble has worked! My entire top 6 made it to the next round. Indeed this calculated voting (on 1 vote) is done in almost everything where polls are taken and made public. It's inherit to human nature I think to be influenced by what others think, feel or say.
<p>And yes, this time the prediction is completely accurate in who went through. Let's see if we can do that for the next round also.</p>Nem-Z wrote:propeliea wrote:We've been close, but never exact. Worse (or better?), we may very well be due for a big surprise.
...except this time if you take the final two voters into account we were dead-on. Just saying. I had stated before that I might change my vote to Rob. And my gamble has worked! My entire top 6 made it to the next round. Indeed this calculated voting (on 1 vote) is done in almost everything where polls are taken and made public. It's inherit to human nature I think...Tio2008-01-16T22:10:37ZRe: Forums/RPG SuperstarTM 2008: General Discussion: Round 4: Who Got Your 3 Votes?propelieahttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2hu8k&page=2?Round-4-Who-Got-Your-3-Votes#812008-01-16T21:58:51Z2008-01-16T21:58:16Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Nem-Z wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">propeliea wrote:</div><blockquote>We've been close, but never exact. Worse (or better?), we may very well be due for a big surprise. </blockquote><p>...except this time if you take the final two voters into account we were dead-on.
<p>Just saying. </blockquote><p>It does indeed appear that way. Wonder if it's due to fewer contestants or if actual voting has slipped.
<p>Though we don't actually know if our order is correct, just that we picked the six.</p>Nem-Z wrote:propeliea wrote:We've been close, but never exact. Worse (or better?), we may very well be due for a big surprise.
...except this time if you take the final two voters into account we were dead-on. Just saying. It does indeed appear that way. Wonder if it's due to fewer contestants or if actual voting has slipped. Though we don't actually know if our order is correct, just that we picked the six.propeliea2008-01-16T21:58:16ZRe: Forums/RPG SuperstarTM 2008: General Discussion: Round 4: Who Got Your 3 Votes?Nem-Z (alias of Brian Schlitt)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2hu8k&page=2?Round-4-Who-Got-Your-3-Votes#802008-01-16T21:17:06Z2008-01-16T21:17:06Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">propeliea wrote:</div><blockquote>We've been close, but never exact. Worse (or better?), we may very well be due for a big surprise. </blockquote><p>...except this time if you take the final two voters into account we were dead-on.
<p>Just saying.</p>propeliea wrote:We've been close, but never exact. Worse (or better?), we may very well be due for a big surprise.
...except this time if you take the final two voters into account we were dead-on. Just saying.Nem-Z (alias of Brian Schlitt)2008-01-16T21:17:06ZRe: Forums/RPG SuperstarTM 2008: General Discussion: Round 4: Who Got Your 3 Votes?A Grave Man (alias of Munchies420isgood)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2hu8k&page=2?Round-4-Who-Got-Your-3-Votes#792008-01-16T19:20:28Z2008-01-16T19:20:27Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">propeliea wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">gbonehead wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Tio wrote:</div><blockquote> I took out my vote for Lightning and went with Ooze to see Rob on to the next round. Hopefully my complete top 6 will make it. </blockquote><p>heheheheh
<p>Okay, I admit it, I was wrong. A Grave Man was right. :-) </blockquote><p>Yep, I was pretty sure he was right that this would affect votes. Not sure that's inherently bad, but basing your vote on a highly unscientific ranking like this has dangers.
<p>We've been close, but never exact. Worse (or better?), we may very well be due for a big surprise. </blockquote><p>There will be no gloating on my part. In fact, let me go on record as saying:
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1. The reason I started and continue to play D&D is because it is a social event, and even though the focus is on the game, we as friends and peers don't exclude other topics of conversation—be it baseball, politics, relationships or whatever.
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2. One person making a statement which in some way supports my original idea, is still only one person, and should in no way be taken as an indication that it is widespread or will have a significant impact.</p>propeliea wrote:gbonehead wrote: Tio wrote: I took out my vote for Lightning and went with Ooze to see Rob on to the next round. Hopefully my complete top 6 will make it.
heheheheh Okay, I admit it, I was wrong. A Grave Man was right. :-) Yep, I was pretty sure he was right that this would affect votes. Not sure that's inherently bad, but basing your vote on a highly unscientific ranking like this has dangers. We've been close, but never exact. Worse (or better?), we may very well be due for...A Grave Man (alias of Munchies420isgood)2008-01-16T19:20:27ZRe: Forums/RPG SuperstarTM 2008: General Discussion: Round 4: Who Got Your 3 Votes?propelieahttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2hu8k&page=2?Round-4-Who-Got-Your-3-Votes#782008-01-16T18:44:41Z2008-01-16T18:44:41Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">gbonehead wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Tio wrote:</div><blockquote> I took out my vote for Lightning and went with Ooze to see Rob on to the next round. Hopefully my complete top 6 will make it. </blockquote><p>heheheheh
<p>Okay, I admit it, I was wrong. A Grave Man was right. :-) </blockquote><p>Yep, I was pretty sure he was right that this would affect votes. Not sure that's inherently bad, but basing your vote on a highly unscientific ranking like this has dangers.
<p>We've been close, but never exact. Worse (or better?), we may very well be due for a big surprise.</p>gbonehead wrote:Tio wrote: I took out my vote for Lightning and went with Ooze to see Rob on to the next round. Hopefully my complete top 6 will make it.
heheheheh Okay, I admit it, I was wrong. A Grave Man was right. :-) Yep, I was pretty sure he was right that this would affect votes. Not sure that's inherently bad, but basing your vote on a highly unscientific ranking like this has dangers. We've been close, but never exact. Worse (or better?), we may very well be due for a big surprise.propeliea2008-01-16T18:44:41ZRe: Forums/RPG SuperstarTM 2008: General Discussion: Round 4: Who Got Your 3 Votes?gboneheadhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2hu8k&page=2?Round-4-Who-Got-Your-3-Votes#772008-01-16T15:43:26Z2008-01-16T15:43:26Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Tio wrote:</div><blockquote> I took out my vote for Lightning and went with Ooze to see Rob on to the next round. Hopefully my complete top 6 will make it. </blockquote><p>heheheheh
<p>Okay, I admit it, I was wrong. A Grave Man was right. :-)</p>Tio wrote:I took out my vote for Lightning and went with Ooze to see Rob on to the next round. Hopefully my complete top 6 will make it.
heheheheh Okay, I admit it, I was wrong. A Grave Man was right. :-)gbonehead2008-01-16T15:43:26ZRe: Forums/RPG SuperstarTM 2008: General Discussion: Round 4: Who Got Your 3 Votes?Oliver von Spreckelsenhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2hu8k&page=2?Round-4-Who-Got-Your-3-Votes#762008-01-16T09:55:13Z2008-01-16T09:54:05Z<p>I went with Jason, Joe and Rob (Bleak midwinter, lightning and oozes) this round as I was pretty sure that Christine, Clinton and Russ would advance to the next round, regardless of my vote (loved the entries though, but this time I tried to vote for my no.4,5,and6, because I want to see them also in the next round).</p>I went with Jason, Joe and Rob (Bleak midwinter, lightning and oozes) this round as I was pretty sure that Christine, Clinton and Russ would advance to the next round, regardless of my vote (loved the entries though, but this time I tried to vote for my no.4,5,and6, because I want to see them also in the next round).Oliver von Spreckelsen2008-01-16T09:54:05Z