Admit it, round 3 villain people


RPG Superstar™ 2008 General Discussion

Marathon Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9 aka Clouds Without Water

One of you is working on a demi-lich who un-lives in a tomb full of traps and tricks, I know it.

I like this round, having thought about it. There's a lot of tempting paths of doom in it. Paths of doom that lead to glory, as long as you don't step off said path. Or put the left foot where the right foot belongs. Or really even look away from the path for 5 words.

It's a tricksy round it is, yes.


Clouds Without Water wrote:
I like this round, having thought about it. There's a lot of tempting paths of doom in it. Paths of doom that lead to glory, as long as you don't step off said path. Or put the left foot where the right foot belongs. Or really even look away from the path for 5 words.

Remember, in the Latin alphabet, "Jehovah" begins with an "I".

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 16

Clouds Without Water wrote:


One of you is working on a demi-lich who un-lives in a tomb full of traps and tricks, I know it.

I like this round, having thought about it. There's a lot of tempting paths of doom in it. Paths of doom that lead to glory, as long as you don't step off said path. Or put the left foot where the right foot belongs. Or really even look away from the path for 5 words.

It's a tricksy round it is, yes.

The truly tricky part is the 500 words. That is the challenge.


The one who delivers credible XGood villain is making good progress for getting my vote. Just a friendly hint.

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 16 , Marathon Voter Season 6 aka Core

William McNulty wrote:
truly tricky part is the 500 words. That is the challenge.

Well, 500 words that won't get you DQed, that was my primary challenge. I found this round a lot more limited then the previous ones and ended up shooting down my first couple ideas. Hopefully the third is good enough.


Pathfinder Maps Subscriber

Last week (before the rules came out), on another messageboard located on the edge of imagination, I postulated the following villain-types would be represented:

Spoiler:
-At least one intelligent magic item.

-A new Demon Prince, evil downcast god, or similar type outsider.

-An evil wizard/sorcerer.

-A dragon.

-A vampire.

-A lich.

-A Warduke/Boba Fett sorta character - masked and mysterious.

-A Fallen Paladin.

-And a villain with most, if not all his/her class levels in NPC classes.

-Someone might also try to show off and create a new prestige class for their baddy.

I'm adding two more:

-The montage: A character with so many templates, and weird class levels it lacks all style and focuses squarely on the metagame. This villain grinds its opponents to death under the weight of sheer mechanics alone).

-The Monster: An awakened beast given titanic size, powers and or intellect. I'm looking at you Mr. Blink Dog.

G-Cubed
Model for the Perfect Evil Dragon

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 16 aka amusingsn

Great Green God wrote:
-The Monster: An awakened beast given titanic size, powers and or intellect. I'm looking at you Mr. Blink Dog.

Close.

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32 , Star Voter Season 7

I'm no longer in the contest, but I'm proud to say that my villian is not on your list.

Dark Archive

Great Green God wrote:
-The Monster: An awakened beast given titanic size, powers and or intellect.

Oh, that old chestnut. Who hasn't had the local crime guild run by an ex-Familiar with a few levels in Sorcerer?


I'm guessing someone might try the non-evil villain. Maybe even a good-aligned villain, like a fanatical LG priest of Pholtus whose mission is to stamp out heresy at any cost.

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32 aka Spar

jocundthejolly wrote:
I'm guessing someone might try the non-evil villain. Maybe even a good-aligned villain, like a fanatical LG priest of Pholtus whose mission is to stamp out heresy at any cost.

Ah... but then he'd be LN and not LG, as the LG person would look at the situation, and in the end, compassion would prevail.

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 8

Core wrote:
William McNulty wrote:
truly tricky part is the 500 words. That is the challenge.

Well, 500 words that won't get you DQed, that was my primary challenge. I found this round a lot more limited then the previous ones and ended up shooting down my first couple ideas. Hopefully the third is good enough.

My hope as well. Also, my villain's category was not listed either.

Marathon Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9 aka Clouds Without Water

Great Green God wrote:

Last week (before the rules came out), on another messageboard located on the edge of imagination, I postulated the following villain-types would be represented:

** spoiler omitted **

G-Cubed
Model for the Perfect Evil Dragon

I'm certainly hoping for a brilliant take on a classic like a dragon, lich, or vampire. I'm opened to be surprised by other things too, but my hope is for a new look at an old classic.

We'll see!

Dark Archive Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4

Clouds Without Water wrote:


I'm certainly hoping for a brilliant take on a classic like a dragon, lich, or vampire. I'm opened to be surprised by other things too, but my hope is for a new look at an old classic.

We'll see!

Mine just went in - I think he's a twist on a classic, and I hope that everyone will agree.

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 8

I tried to make the Ogre Mage make sense....didn't work. Silly eastern influence in my western fantasy.

Personally, I tried to stay away from classic, or over-done villains and monsters.

I hope I'm at least unique in this 16...

Scarab Sages

Great Green God wrote:

Last week (before the rules came out), on another messageboard located on the edge of imagination, I postulated the following villain-types would be represented:

** spoiler omitted **

Hmm, too bad I didn't make it to round 3; my villain idea (had I made it through the first and second rounds) wasn't any of those... After we see and judge the round 3 villains, maybe I'll tell ya. :)

Dark Archive Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4

Joseph Yerger wrote:

I tried to make the Ogre Mage make sense....didn't work. Silly eastern influence in my western fantasy.

That was my first instinct, as well - until my girlfriend said, "But Booms, didn't you already just do Ogre Mages?"

"No."

"There aren't any ogre mages in Cyrehllan?"

" . . . No?"

"I could swear that there are ogre mages in Cyrehllan."

" . . . maybe I'll do something else."

Here's hoping that people like what they see!

The Exchange Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 6 , Dedicated Voter Season 6

Great Green God wrote:

Last week (before the rules came out), on another messageboard located on the edge of imagination, I postulated the following villain-types would be represented:

** spoiler omitted **

I come close to one of the above, but don't fit it.


Great Green God wrote:

Last week (before the rules came out), on another messageboard located on the edge of imagination, I postulated the following villain-types would be represented:

** spoiler omitted **

Well, if the classic is done with interesting twists, I will pay attention.

Adding a new prestige class would badly eat on word limit, so doing that is likely to end up being nice-crunch-no-flavor villain, so I hope we won't see that (or if we do, it will be a pleasant surprise).

I wonder if anyone will go for hivemind.

Dark Archive Contributor, RPG Superstar aka Leandra Christine Schneider

No, I'm sorry great green god...mine isn't in there.


thatboomerkid wrote:

That was my first instinct, as well - until my girlfriend said, "But Booms, didn't you already just do Ogre Mages?"

"No."

"There aren't any ogre mages in Cyrehllan?"

" . . . No?"

"I could swear that there are ogre mages in Cyrehllan."

" . . . maybe I'll do something else."

Here's hoping that people like what they see!

"Well, more importantly...there was loads of awesome Cyrehllan in Cyrehllan! And that was FREAKIN' AWESOME!" chimes in Grimcleaver "a hands-down favorite of mine!"

"So I ain't got no worries about ya'..."


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LeandraChristine wrote:
No, I'm sorry great green god...mine isn't in there.

Never fear, you may find redemption in my eyes yet Leandra.

The occasionally merciful,
Great Green God


Pathfinder Maps Subscriber
magdalena thiriet wrote:


I wonder if anyone will go for hivemind.

;)

Sorry, inside joke.

GGG


Pathfinder Maps Subscriber
Ross Byers wrote:

I'm no longer in the contest, but I'm proud to say that my villian is not on your list.

It's not so much that your or anyone's villain made or didn't make "the list." Really it's more a question of does the villain have the right combination of tradition and new twist that the character is both playable and realistic. The "meta-mechanics" monster is the only villain on the list that I would deem a bad choice, but everything else if presented right is just fine in my never humble opinion.

I mean come on I made sorcerous, body-swapping yaks, and floating, erudite shocker lizards.
;)
GGG


Great Green God wrote:
I made sorcerous, body-swapping yaks,

Sorcerous yaks? There's an idea I could get behind! As long as they all had blink for one of their spells. Blink yaks. Awesome.


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mythfish wrote:
Great Green God wrote:
I made sorcerous, body-swapping yaks,
Sorcerous yaks? There's an idea I could get behind! As long as they all had blink for one of their spells. Blink yaks. Awesome.

I think they're awesome too. ;)

Scrbbed for word count reasons, and then by Dungeon licensing issues wrote:

BLINK MUSK YAK(32) CR 5

N Large magical beast
Init +1; Senses Spot +5, Listen +7; low-light vision, scent
AC 14, touch 10, flat-footed 13
hp 37 (5 HD)
Fort +7, Ref +6, Will +1
Spd 40 ft. (8 squares)
Melee gore +8 (1d8+9)
Space 10 ft.; Reach 5 ft.
Base Atk +3; Grp +13
Special Atk stampede
Abilities Str 22, Dex 12, Con 16, Int 2, Wis 11, Cha 4
Feats Alertness, Endurance
Skills Jump +6, Listen +7, Spot +5

Stampede (Ex) A frightened herd of blink musk yak flees as a group in a random direction (but always away from the perceived source of danger). They literally run over anything of Large size or smaller that gets in their way, dealing 1d12 points of damage for each five blink musk yaks in the herd (Reflex DC 18 half).

Blink (Su) A blink musk yak can use blink as the spell (caster level 8th), and can evoke or end the effect as a free action.

Dimension Door (Su) A blink musk yak can teleport, as dimension door (caster level 8th), once per round as a free action. The ability affects only the blink musk yak, which never appears within a solid object and can act immediately after teleporting.

Stench (Ex) When a blink musk yak is angry or frightened, it secretes an oily, musk-like chemical that nearly every form of animal life finds offensive. All living creatures (except blink musk yak) within 30 feet must succeed on a DC 15 Fortitude save or be sickened for 10 rounds. The save DC is Constitution-based. Creatures that successfully save cannot be affected by the same blink musk yak’s stench for 24 hours. A delay poison or neutralize poison spell removes the effect from the sickened creature. Creatures with immunity to poison are unaffected, and creatures resistant to poison receive their normal bonus on their saving throws.

-GGG

PS the "yaks" I was refering to originally though, appear in the Seeds of Sehan arc (Dungeon 145-147), which I helped to write in collaboration with Ashavan Doyon, Steve Greer, Stefan Happ, and Tom Ganz. Cheers guys!

Sovereign Court

amusingsn wrote:
Great Green God wrote:
-The Monster: An awakened beast given titanic size, powers and or intellect. I'm looking at you Mr. Blink Dog.
Close.

I, for one, welcome our new Monk/Psionicist Axiomatic Gelatinous Cube overlords.

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 16 aka amusingsn

Would the blink yaks gather together to form a nation under the banners of truth justice and the blink yak way? Because I think its about time someone explored that angle.

Herdmaster Blech, "the Wooly Stallion", leads his blink yak army in a no-holds-barred crusade against the vile Emperor Stinkulon and his wicked Displacer Silverfish corps!

Dark Archive

amusingsn wrote:
his wicked Displacer Silverfish corps!

Mmm. Displacer Beasts. *So* much cooler than Blink Dogs.

Perhaps to the west of the Rolling Plains is a dark forest, said to contain a connection to the Plane of Shadow, by way of trying to explain the perpetual twilight that rules under its canopy. No one race could be said to 'rule' this benighted place, but the Displacer Beasts and their Pack Lords are the undisputed masters, terrorizing the local Bugbear tribes with their raids and extorting 'tribute' from the solitary Hags.

RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32 , Dedicated Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9 aka SmiloDan

I'm looking forward to some kind of Swarm-based mastermind villain. Maybe a cleric of Erythnul (sp?) who takes the title "The Many" in a whole new direction.

Sczarni

Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure, Companion, Lost Omens Subscriber
cappadocius wrote:


I, for one, welcome our new Monk/Psionicist Axiomatic Gelatinous Cube overlords.

I would like to see cubes that are higher level

Spoiler:
intellectual gelatinous cubes that are smaller and take the form of what they are injesting, allowing them to take the place of the thing. some of the Jelly going to their brain so they know how the thing would react in certain situations.

I've read a siege adventure in which the bad guys used GCs and Puddings as catapult ammo, some with buffs cast on them... Don't remember where though


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cappadocius wrote:


I, for one, welcome our new Monk/Psionicist Axiomatic Gelatinous Cube overlords.

Really, who doesn't?

-GGG

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 16 aka Cruiser1

Hee hee, my villain is covered by one of the entries on the list! However, as others have pointed out, it's not what they are that makes a good or bad villain, but rather what they do, i.e. new twists or just plain execution of a traditional concept. :)


Cpt_kirstov wrote:


I've read a siege adventure in which the bad guys used GCs and Puddings as catapult ammo, some with buffs cast on them... Don't remember where though

In the Dragonmech setting you can outfit your mech with ooze launchers.

But really I think yaks would make better ammo.

The Exchange

mythfish wrote:
Cpt_kirstov wrote:


I've read a siege adventure in which the bad guys used GCs and Puddings as catapult ammo, some with buffs cast on them... Don't remember where though

In the Dragonmech setting you can outfit your mech with ooze launchers.

But really I think yaks would make better ammo.

I would be remiss if I didn't add that gnomes (both living and dead) make excellent catapult ammunition. Ahh, the sound of gnome striking castle walls...so satisfying...

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32 , Star Voter Season 7

SmiloDan wrote:
I'm looking forward to some kind of Swarm-based mastermind villain. Maybe a cleric of Erythnul (sp?) who takes the title "The Many" in a whole new direction.

Eyrthnull isn't SRD.

Dark Archive Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4

Ross Byers wrote:
SmiloDan wrote:
I'm looking forward to some kind of Swarm-based mastermind villain. Maybe a cleric of Erythnul (sp?) who takes the title "The Many" in a whole new direction.
Eyrthnull isn't SRD.

Oi, I know - this whole "keep it to the SRD" rule has been really . . . interesting.

Like the whole thing with Gary Larson drawing 'Far Side' - he said that trying to keep all of his ideas & pictures inside that stupid, itty-bitty little box was the greatest drawing instructor he ever had.


Pathfinder Maps Subscriber

Well just skimming through and it looks like many folks went "Montage" with a monster (the nightmare) and -elans, hmmmm. Elans? I think I've seen more people use abeils and yak folk in games than elans, which might be the real killer. I mean psionic is fringe but to pull a fringe race out of a fringe game setting is perhaps one fringe to many. At this point I believe one bad-ass human 8-12th level fighter with a distinctive helmet, reasonably sized horde, cool hook, and a bad attitude could whoop its way into the next round.

Elans: the red-headed, psionic stepchildren of D&D. ;)
GGG

RPG Superstar 2013 Top 16 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9 aka Darkjoy

Great Green God wrote:

Well just skimming through and it looks like many folks went "Montage" with a monster (the nightmare) and -elans, hmmmm. Elans? I think I've seen more people use abeils and yak folk in games than elans, which might be the real killer. I mean psionic is fringe but to pull a fringe race out of a fringe game setting is perhaps one fringe to many. At this point I believe one bad-ass human 8-12th level fighter with a distinctive helmet, reasonably sized horde, cool hook, and a bad attitude could whoop its way into the next round.

Elans: the red-headed, psionic stepchildren of D&D. ;)
GGG

I agree, more fighters are needed. Down with the casters!

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