Can I try just one more time?


RPG Superstar™ 2008 General Discussion


Turn it back on, I want to try again!

Goblet of Sour Wine

Anyone drinking from this cup resists attempts to influence their attitude. For an hour after using this item, all diplomacy checks against the user are reduced by 5.

Faint enchantment; CL 5th; Craft Wondrous Item, protection from chaos; Price 500 gp.


I'd like some thank you Takasi.


Takasi wrote:
Anyone drinking from this cup resists attempts to influence their attitude. For an hour after using this item, all diplomacy checks against the user are reduced by 5.

It's cute, but per the rules, Diplomacy checks only work against NPCs. And the overall mechanics of them are broken, too.

As such, it's an item that only exists to make the PC's day harder. And if you're worried about an encounter that the PCs could just talk their way past, why are you letting them talk their way past it in the first place?


CNB wrote:
As such, it's an item that only exists to make the PC's day harder.

Exactly. It's a DM cheater item.

"Thought you got something cool? Well it doesn't work on you!"

Thank you Yasha, and thank you Aesop!


CNB wrote:

It's cute, but per the rules, Diplomacy checks only work against NPCs. And the overall mechanics of them are broken, too.

As such, it's an item that only exists to make the PC's day harder. And if you're worried about an encounter that the PCs could just talk their way past, why are you letting them talk their way past it in the first place?

Methinks you have perchance missed the joke? There's a certain metaphorical source for that Sour W(h)ine...


Raymond Rich wrote:
Methinks you have perchance missed the joke? There's a certain metaphorical source for that Sour W(h)ine...

No, I get the joke. It still doesn't make it a better Wondrous Item. And 500gp is a little overpriced, come to think of it.


CNB wrote:
Raymond Rich wrote:
Methinks you have perchance missed the joke? There's a certain metaphorical source for that Sour W(h)ine...
No, I get the joke. It still doesn't make it a better Wondrous Item. And 500gp is a little overpriced, come to think of it.

*chuckles* Right back at me, then, I suppose. Touche, good sir, touche.

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