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Whilst finishing the second of the Pathfinder series, I realized that there are two things Paizo may want to continue in the long-term to bolster its sales (and customer relations).
First, I thought it would be nice, once the Rise of the Runelords Adventure Path has run that we be able to download the entire collection as I complete .pdf. The adventure path could be laid out in the front, and all the campaign supplements combined with their respective counterparts, in the back. Primarily, I'd love to have a complete Bestiary when all is said and done.
Second, I realized that with the upcoming 4e in 2008, it really shouldn't be to hard for Paizo to have stats for both 3.5 and 4e in its Pathfinder adventures. The stat blocks don't take up a lot of space and Pathfinder does make lots of reference to MM monsters. Assuming those MM monsters will be available in 4e as well, then Paizo could simply reference "MM" and let those of us with 3.5 or 4e take the next step of locating the monster.
Let me know what you think.
You make the assumption that every 3.5 monster in the MM will be in the 4e MM and that when that is true that hte monsters will the roughtly equivilent.
Those are bad assumptions.
I have a post here explaining why they are bad assumptions.
Bella Sara Charter Superscriber
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Whilst finishing the second of the Pathfinder series, I realized that there are two things Paizo may want to continue in the long-term to bolster its sales (and customer relations).
First, I thought it would be nice, once the Rise of the Runelords Adventure Path has run that we be able to download the entire collection as I complete .pdf. The adventure path could be laid out in the front, and all the campaign supplements combined with their respective counterparts, in the back. Primarily, I'd love to have a complete Bestiary when all is said and done.
I like that idea. I have been printing out the pdfs and putting them in a binder and have all the monsters together. It works out pretty well since there's only one monster to a page (or, more commonly, one monster to every two pages).
I would like it if the Game monstery monsters were also in a separate single page pdf file so I could add them to the collection.
Y'know if you put the compellations in two sets--one that had all the adventurey content and the other with all the setting content (like big book versions of Dragon and Dungeon) I would certainly buy all of the setting books when they come out.
I'd imagine both groups would want dibs on the monster section--unless it was sold separately as a whole separate book. Heck if you guys have some extra content lying around that didn't make it in the first time for space reasons (like more monsters, or longer city listings, or extra encounters) stuff like that would really sweeten the pot.
The more I think about this, the more I like it.
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Bella Sara Charter Superscriber
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On the one hand, I like the idea of the bound volumes.
But on the other hand, I'm really sick of the marketing gimmick of releasing something with 10% new content, like with the various re-releases of the Star Wars movies.
So, I guess I wouldn't be too interested in such a product, and would be somewhat irritated if it had material that was not in the original source.
But that might just be me...
But that might just be me...
Include me in that mindset. If I knew the APs would all come out in a collected, expanded format at a later date, I'd never buy the individual adventures in the first place.
Chief Technical Officer
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IF Paizo decides to transition to 4th Edition in 2008 (and I don't want to get into that discussion here—we already have threads for that), it almost certainly won't make economic sense to reprint any 3.5 products (unless we convert them to 4th Edition—and since the viability of converting something like Rise of the Runelords to 4th edition is completely dependent on a bunch of variables of which we have no current knowledge, it would be a waste of effort to begin that discussion now).
In short, we currently have no plan to make Rise of the Runelords available in anything other than the current format, and, until we have more information on 4th edition, it doesn't make sense for us to even contemplate changing that.
Fair enough Vic.
Could you shed any light on the compilation idea?
I was looking into trying to merge the individual files myself... But Foxit Reader doesn't seem capable.
Do you have any suggestions for a DIY compilation?
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I like that idea. I have been printing out the pdfs and putting them in a binder and have all the monsters together. It works out pretty well since there's only one monster to a page (or, more commonly, one monster to every two pages).I would like it if the Game monstery monsters were also in a separate single page pdf file so I could add them to the collection.
I have been doing the same thing. I almost have to start breaking things up into more than one binder unless I start dumping the older parts of the adventure out of the binder. I would rather not do that.
I also agree that having the Game Mastery monsters being on one page would be great. I do also print them out. When the next couple of chapters come out I will have to make a separate monster manual and probably a book for material of towns and cities, etc.
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Chief Technical Officer
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Could you shed any light on the compilation idea?
I know I personally wouldn't want to download a 180MB PDF, and the notion of paying $84 at a single shot isn't all that appealing either—even if I do get a 600-page product.
Further, as rugbyman demonstrated above, training our customers to wait for a compilation is not a great idea for cash flow purposes.
I was looking into trying to merge the individual files myself... But Foxit Reader doesn't seem capable.
To be honest, I'm not sure if the document protection we're using would prevent Adobe Acrobat from letting you assemble documents like that or not, but that's the tool I'd try.
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You make the assumption that every 3.5 monster in the MM will be in the 4e MM and that when that is true that hte monsters will the roughtly equivilent.
Those are bad assumptions.
I have a post here explaining why they are bad assumptions.
You should read my entire post. I said "Assuming those MM monsters will be available in 4e as well...."
:P
I know I personally wouldn't want to download a 180MB PDF, and the notion of paying $84 at a single shot isn't all that appealing either—even if I do get a 600-page product.
Further, as rugbyman demonstrated above, training our customers to wait for a compilation is not a great idea for cash flow purposes.
Hmm... Both good points. To be honest, I hadn't thought that far ahead. A bit of a shame, but not stifling as a customer.
To be honest, I'm not sure if the document protection we're using would prevent Adobe Acrobat from letting you assemble documents like that or not, but that's the tool I'd try.
That's what I was thinking.
Ah well Saurstalk, sounds like your ideas were "great on paper."
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I like collection PDFs as much as the next person.. but I can't see why anyone would want a 600 page PDF... and even so, there's more then one way to combine the Pathfinder PDFs if you do some web searching.
As for monsters, I have enough monsters to last me a life time, between the 5 MM Wizards put out and the 3 or 4 good d20 monster books, I can't imagine getting another 3.5 monster book.
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Ah well Saurstalk, sounds like your ideas were "great on paper."
Even though my concept was snuffed, I have to say how pleased I remain that Paizo takes so much time out of their busy schedules fielding questions, proposals, and the like from us.
However, I am beginning to wonder just how many people work at Paizo that they can keep putting out some grand products and spend so much time talking to us. Modrons helping them out? Or are we dealing with cloning now?
