Upcoming deadlines seem a bit steep?


RPG Superstar™ 2008 General Discussion


Has anyone relized we have only like, 5 days to design an entire country from scratch? i guess it's Paizo's way of testing us to see if we can make major deadlines. i just wish we could get even a slight heads up as to what the specifications would be.


Yes but if we had the fore knowledge of what to expect and loads of time to complete each task then we wouldn't be RPG SUPERSTARS. After reading a lot of the 2nd items created by everyone here, I'm convinced that there is some major talent on these boards. I think in order to pull off this contest and truly find an RPG Superstar, Paizo has to set the bar pretty high. That means what can you accomplish when you are asked to create something new, and do it quickly. I myself love the idea of a time crunch. I think it adds the element of a race into the contest. Fast paced action, with creative juices flowing instead of adrenalin. The frantic guess work of what is going to be expected of you next. Trying to be prepared for everything while knowing next to nothing. Makes for great fun in my book.
Good luck everyone! Remember THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!


A friend of mine (who did enter) expressed himself a little differently. "Man, I could do all the other things easily. It's just getting past the magical item stage that will be hard." Everyone has different strengths. (And yes, I am hoping he makes it to the 32)

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How long does it take?

Most of my time is spent "thinking" procrastinating about doing it. 5 days is plenty to write say 1000 words.

Plus it might be worth roughing out a few thoughts now. Well maybe tomorrow.


The relevant issue is "How long is the stage two submission?" If you have five days to write 2500-3000 words, it's doable. If you have five days to write 10000 words, that's a high bar. If it's 25,000+, better not have a day job or better call in sick. :)


well most people, I would assume are working on rough ideas now. Im rolling some ideas in my head but nothing definite yet. One thing nanowrimo has taught me is, you can write a lot quickly if you need to. My fiance is over 280k words and it's only the 21st of the month. That is on top of going to work every day and doing stuff with me. She averages a minimum of 10k a day this year, some days (weekends) she hits over 20k. I know not everyone can, I can't, but I'm just saying it is possible.


I for one be a little bit at a loss with regards to how "a country" is defined? The only source I have for reference on Pathfinder is the free download PG which presents Standpoint. But that's a city, not a country ...


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It'd probably be best just to get the rough outline of the country in your mind, the power groups, a couple cities, and important NPC or two, and let the rest fall into place once we actually get the submission requirements.

A good place to start with country write-ups might be the Eberron Campaign Setting.


I've been looking at the Eberron book "Five Nations" as a template for formatting the crunch, and adding the fluff in whatever form seems natural.

If you happen to have it, that book has write-ups for 5 countries, and a basic stat block on the first page of each, similar to a city or town's stats, then lots of fluff about the country, its environment, its citizens, its monsters, and a Prestige Class unique to the area.

Of course, the 30-50 page treatment that the Eberron countries get in that book is likely not what Paizo is looking for in this case.


swirler wrote:
well most people, I would assume are working on rough ideas now. Im rolling some ideas in my head but nothing definite yet. One thing nanowrimo has taught me is, you can write a lot quickly if you need to. My fiance is over 280k words and it's only the 21st of the month. That is on top of going to work every day and doing stuff with me. She averages a minimum of 10k a day this year, some days (weekends) she hits over 20k. I know not everyone can, I can't, but I'm just saying it is possible.

Note that most people can't write that fast or even close to it. That's about 40 double spaced typed pages a day on her slow days.

- Ashavan


I don't think anyone should be too worried about the deadlines coming up for the finalists. If you are a finalist, I'm confident that the judges will have very narrow criteria for the country development, just like they did for the magic item. If you think about it, they really narrowed the field on what you could do with magic items. By limiting it to a wonderous item, they ruled out arms, armor, rings, staffs, rods, etc. A 200 word limit was also a decisive restriction. The country portion of the competition will certainly have a word limit, and I suspect a set of clear restrictions on the country. I am pretty sure they will post a map of the country, probably without names, that all the finalists have to use.


Koldoon wrote:
swirler wrote:
well most people, I would assume are working on rough ideas now. Im rolling some ideas in my head but nothing definite yet. One thing nanowrimo has taught me is, you can write a lot quickly if you need to. My fiance is over 280k words and it's only the 21st of the month. That is on top of going to work every day and doing stuff with me. She averages a minimum of 10k a day this year, some days (weekends) she hits over 20k. I know not everyone can, I can't, but I'm just saying it is possible.

Note that most people can't write that fast or even close to it. That's about 40 double spaced typed pages a day on her slow days.

- Ashavan

Oh absolutely. I sure can't. I'm just saying, it is possible.

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NecroticBanana wrote:
Has anyone relized we have only like, 5 days to design an entire country from scratch? i guess it's Paizo's way of testing us to see if we can make major deadlines. i just wish we could get even a slight heads up as to what the specifications would be.

I realized that weeks ago my friend... and the Powers That Be told me that I'll get those specs when the day comes, and not before.

(God willing I make the cut)

It's part of the contest. Best you can do is sketch out a few basic ideas, or trust your creativity.


Evilturnip wrote:

I've been looking at the Eberron book "Five Nations" as a template for formatting the crunch, and adding the fluff in whatever form seems natural.

If you happen to have it, that book has write-ups for 5 countries, and a basic stat block on the first page of each, similar to a city or town's stats, then lots of fluff about the country, its environment, its citizens, its monsters, and a Prestige Class unique to the area.

Of course, the 30-50 page treatment that the Eberron countries get in that book is likely not what Paizo is looking for in this case.

I would assume they are looking more for something like the write-ups in the Eberron Campaign Setting book, rather than 5 Nations.

Those country-writeups covered the stat-block,and then 4 pages (including the stat block and illustrations/maps) to go through the power groups, history, adventuring hooks, major cities, places of interest, etc.

At least, that is what I'm assuming when I'm thinking ahead. Plus I'm thinking about where to place it in Golarion, in case that matters. (I love the huge world map we got in the blog earlier)

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