Gary Teeter wrote' "OK, the personal attacks are too much. I'm closing this thread." regarding "We should win the WAr thread.
Sorry gary and everyone!!!
I do appreciate this community
I don't think it's your fault, Sir K. Just a contentious topic, combined with a few folks that can't accept a difference of opinion.
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I wouldn't stress too much, anyone who reads the thread can see where things went wrong. The only thing more contentious than politics and religion is 4e. ;-)
Still, the community would benefit from fewer political rant threads, and as I said in the latest and greatest, I'd be happy if those wishing to discuss such topics migrate to another set of forums or consolidate it into one thread (ala the religion thread).
I wouldn't stress too much, anyone who reads the thread can see where things went wrong. The only thing more contentious than politics and religion is 4e. ;-)
Still, the community would benefit from fewer political rant threads, and as I said in the latest and greatest, I'd be happy if those wishing to discuss such topics migrate to another set of forums or consolidate it into one thread (ala the religion thread).
I for one ain't going to start something like that up again at least here, at least anytime soon. I need to apoligize out of respect to folks like you, James and the community. I do feel this is a community. a community I like.
20 lashes with a wet noodle, Sir Kaikillah.
I spent years arguing politics and religion elsewhere and mostly have it out of my system (and that was after being raised by a poli sci prof), and although I do read them because I can't stop myself, I just don't see the point of engaging it anymore. Too much willful ignorance.
I definitely see what you're saying, Sebastian, but I wouldn't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater. I've learned a lot from the better discourse on these boards by keeping an open mind. Less heat and fewer new threads would be an improvement, though.
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I definitely see what you're saying, Sebastian, but I wouldn't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater. I've learned a lot from the better discourse on these boards by keeping an open mind. Less heat and fewer new threads would be an improvement, though.
I'm not saying they should go away forever and ever, but a good start would be less inflamatory titles and fewer of them. The thread titles themselves have been invitations to come and argue rather than egnage in a friendly discussion. Politics threads are fine in moderation, and they are fine if they can be respectful, but lately they've been neither.
I definitely see what you're saying, Sebastian, but I wouldn't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater. I've learned a lot from the better discourse on these boards by keeping an open mind. Less heat and fewer new threads would be an improvement, though.I'm not saying they should go away forever and ever, but a good start would be less inflamatory titles and fewer of them. The thread titles themselves have been invitations to come and argue rather than egnage in a friendly discussion. Politics threads are fine in moderation, and they are fine if they can be respectful, but lately they've been neither.
Agreed.
Are you asking him to whip you, Sharoth? I didn't know silver dragons were into that...
Depends on who's holding the whip. >:D
~ignores both Mike's and Lilith's remarks~
~ignores both Mike's and Lilith's remarks~The fact that you said so kinda invalidates the ignoreness of it all, thought I'd tell ya.
~ignores the yappy puppy~
Damn. Not posting in that thread was the best idea I had all week.
I learned something today. Until now, I was insanely anti-censorship. But that thread was rapidly rotting, and needed to be cut out. Bravo, Gary, both for waiting long enough to be sure, and for acting before it got worse.
I definitely see what you're saying, Sebastian, but I wouldn't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater. I've learned a lot from the better discourse on these boards by keeping an open mind. Less heat and fewer new threads would be an improvement, though.I'm not saying they should go away forever and ever, but a good start would be less inflamatory titles and fewer of them. The thread titles themselves have been invitations to come and argue rather than egnage in a friendly discussion. Politics threads are fine in moderation, and they are fine if they can be respectful, but lately they've been neither.
Agreed no flaming titles.
No worries Kaikillah.
In answer to your question, the Great Peace of Europe was the period between the full scale all out wars during Napoleon's time and the Great War. The wars you mentioned, the franco-austrian war, and the austro-purssian war, like the franco-prussian war, were marked by limited engagements with objectives that were ended quickly, rather than wars that became protacted and open-ended. Those wars had a duration of around a year, sometimes less, and did not become "general" in the sense that they sucked all of Europe into getting involved.
It was because of the horrors of Napoleon's wars that things were so peaceful afterward, moreso than the 20th, and, so far, the 21st centuries. That and the opening of free trade from the ideas propagated by Adam Smith in The Wealth of Nations, and by Frederic Bastiat.
I will agree to disagree with you, MR. Smith and Mr. Bastiat, about "Peace" in nineteenth century Europe, and end all my argument there.
Yes, I can assure you I have studied history, and not just from wikipedia.
Obviously you have. I can be a smart ass.
PEACE and ALOHA
20 lashes with a wet noodle, Sir Kaikillah.
Yes please. lashes, lashes and more LAAAASHES, YESSS!!!!
I had some trepidation regarding the first inflammatory thread I posted (the Iran one) spawning bastard children faster than a blackout. Should have gone with my first instinct, but I needed to get it off my chest, and I loathe talking politics in person (once you put a quarter in someone who loves to talk about the government, they’ll ride that freaking pony all day). Besides, if you think this board is bad, you should see my wife get worked up over the stuff on the MSN Pregnancy boards, ha!
20 lashes with a wet noodle, Sir Kaikillah.Yes please. lashes, lashes and more LAAAASHES, YESSS!!!!
~snarls~ You are enjoying this too much, slave. ~thinks~ Perhaps I should put you in the iron maiden? The rack? Or just make you scrub floors with your own toothbrush, followed by brushing your teeth with it afterwards!
Gary Teeter wrote' "OK, the personal attacks are too much. I'm closing this thread." regarding "We should win the WAr thread.
Sorry gary and everyone!!!
I do appreciate this community
We know you're sorry Kaikillah...
...but that won't stop Gary from banning you. That's just the way it has to be my man...
NOT!
:-)
I lurked, and I for one found the thread interesting until it broke down into madness, so don't apologize my man. High minded debate is a treasure and not to be shied away from. When it stops being high minded it's up to good people like Gary to shut it down. Not your fault my man!
Depends on who's holding the whip.
I hold the whip, are we clear?
Depends on who's holding the whip.I hold the whip, are we clear?
Oh CRAP!!! It is a Mord Sith!!! Run for your lives everyone! ~runs away as fast as I can~
It's good to know that, despite differences of opinion, spirited debates and out-and-out explosive fits of epileptic madness we can all come together once more to share our love of sexual deviancy.
*zips up leather mask*
HIT ME!!
Politics & Religion. Fastest lock on the boards
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I had some trepidation regarding the first inflammatory thread I posted (the Iran one) spawning bastard children faster than a blackout. Should have gone with my first instinct, but I needed to get it off my chest, and I loathe talking politics in person (once you put a quarter in someone who loves to talk about the government, they’ll ride that freaking pony all day). Besides, if you think this board is bad, you should see my wife get worked up over the stuff on the MSN Pregnancy boards, ha!
My wife used to be a regular at a parenting/pregnancy board. Those things are toxic pits of pure evil.
I had some trepidation regarding the first inflammatory thread I posted (the Iran one) spawning bastard children faster than a blackout. Should have gone with my first instinct, but I needed to get it off my chest, and I loathe talking politics in person (once you put a quarter in someone who loves to talk about the government, they’ll ride that freaking pony all day). Besides, if you think this board is bad, you should see my wife get worked up over the stuff on the MSN Pregnancy boards, ha!My wife used to be a regular at a parenting/pregnancy board. Those things are toxic pits of pure evil.
I Moderate a Newpapers board. Now that is entertainment!
Gary Teeter wrote' "OK, the personal attacks are too much. I'm closing this thread." regarding "We should win the WAr thread.
Sorry gary and everyone!!!
I do appreciate this community
We know you're sorry Kaikillah...
...but that won't stop Gary from banning you. That's just the way it has to be my man...
Gary did the right thing! I never want to see it reopened.
I blame it on Shiny. He is a Shoggoth Lord.
He's using numbers...as...as letters?!
Madness.
He's using numbers...as...as letters?!
Madness.
Ha! Now you know how I felt when I saw people using letters for numbers in my math class *shudder*
Ha! Now you know how I felt when I saw people using letters for numbers in my math class *shudder*
He's using numbers...as...as letters?!
Madness.
2x + 3y = z
Solve for z.
And Gary calls himself a moderator.
I don't believe he does. He's the site admin and programmer, to my knowledge, which you should be thankful for, as you'd be ban-hammered already. Now play nice. :)
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We don't have moderators here, and haven't really needed them except on a few occasions.
Let's try to keep it that way, please.
And Rich is right. Let's not try to relive a locked thread on this one, please. There are better places to get into fights about politics and religion than a gaming board, after all.
--Erik
Come on folks, this message board is a place designated for the sharing and discussion of ideas about gaming. I understand the need for off-topic discussion, especially since there are off-topics sections on just about every messageboard on the net.
There does, on the other hand, need to be a limit to what is and should be discussed. A thread involving Religion/Parenting(<---dangerous, that one)/War/Politics is essentially an invitation for people with strong views to take part. Lets try to leave the overly serious stuff for other messageboards. Most of the people I have seen commenting here are valuable members of this community and I, for one, would like to see them remain so.
The Green Cyclops Wizard has spoken. Seriously Erik, what is that Avatar?
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It's good to know that spiteful anti-american ranting and accusations of israel being the cause of all the evil in the world are considered high minded debate. I'll keep that in mind.High minded debate is a treasure and not to be shied away from.
You need to watch yourself. I've seen your posts on other threads, and if you want to stay on the boards, you'll stop trolling.
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You know, I've noticed a sudden influx of people in the last week or two who are just jerks.
I don't know if they're coming from the WotC boards or what, but there are a few that I've recently become aware of.
I don't mind debate, or opposing viewpoints, but I can't stand some of the disrespect I've seen from the recent arrivals. I like our community. I like the way our community doesn't have to be policed. I like how, basically, everyone gets along. I don't want to see that end.
I don't know - - do we ban them, give them a few more chances, or organize a troll hunting party?
There is always the possibility that its some of the Marketing Execs at WotC trolling the Paizo boards to find out what we really think of them.
....oh yeah...they are going to be really pleased with themselves now.
Joking aside, I try to stay out of the cesspool threads (<---anything remotely too serious) because I am myself a person of strong principles and am quite outspoken. This just isn't the forum for it. So I prefer to abstain.
Banned for pointing out what a joke the moderation is here? Uh oh, thread's locked, lets continue it in another one!And Gary calls himself a moderator.I don't believe he does. He's the site admin and programmer, to my knowledge, which you should be thankful for, as you'd be ban-hammered already.
This rubbed me the wrong way. I'm not really sure why. Gary has been great and he's not just the Site Ad. and Prog. he's one of us. Lets not mock how he's not running around locking every serious thread. He hasn't needed to and more than likly won't if we keep the same level of respect that is usually held on these boards.
As always if not alittle more saddened
Fizz