Given what you know so far, are you planning to:
D) Other.So, given what you know so far, you plan to: _______________.
I never converted to 2nd edition, let alone 3rd, or 3.5...why would I convert to 4? I've been quite happy the last nigh-30 years playing Basic and 1e. (...er, I guess you could say I 'switched' to another version: Hackmaster! :D ). Yes, I have played (currently, actually) in a 3.5e game...but, suffice it to say, it's not something I wish to really continue doing.
So far, everything I've read about 4e I don't like. Mind you, I could say the same thing about 3.x as well, so take that for what it's worth. :)
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C) We'll see. Need more information.
But, won't be moving on any time soon.
TRUTH: if my Friday night 10 year old Second Ed game set in Greyhawk hadn't gone on hiatus in 2001 as the '20 somethings' got lives, we'd still be playing 2nd ed.
I only got into 3.0 to game again, Living Greyhawk. Had no choice to move to 3.5, but sure felt ripped off having to buy at least the basic books so soon. At least PDFs helped here with the extras.
Now that some of my old group have settled and with new blood added, I have abandoned 'Living' campaigns for the pure fun and camaraderie of a regular group, currently Savage Tides. As others have mentioned, there are so many really good and coherent resources for 3.5 there is no rush to move forward. And, with no intention of getting involved in 'Living' games with their ever changing rules, groups, versions, 4.0 and its anticipated revisions will not be rushed into.
So, 'C)' best describes my intentions and those of my group at this time.
There is no perfect set of game rules, but there are ones we each prefer. To each his own.
Given what you know so far, are you planning to:
A) Convert! I am ready for a new D&D.
B) 3.5 or Bust! I'm sticking with the man what brought me.
C) We'll see. Need more information.
D) Other.
Please pick one. Feel free to elaborate, but please stick to one reply each for this thread. I'm not interested in fights or refutations of incorrect points or baiting or whatever.
I want to know how you, at this moment in time, feel about the idea of converting to a new edition of the game.
I expect that people's answers will change over time. This is not the last time I will ask this question, so we'll have a chance to gauge the issue as we go along.
So, given what you know so far, you plan to: _______________.
d: Other. My players have gamed with me since the early-mid 1990's. Most of us started out with 1E or 2E AD&D. I never bought a single 3E/3.5E D&D book (though I am asking for Greyhawk and the Demonweb Pits hardcovers just for info purposes). I have continued to run a heavily house ruled 1E/2E mix. And I'll likely be continuing to do so. It's what my players have asked for, and it is what I enjoy.
Yeah, it's a very late reply, but it's mine.
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Given what you know so far, are you planning to:
A) Convert! I am ready for a new D&D.
B) 3.5 or Bust! I'm sticking with the man what brought me.
C) We'll see. Need more information.
D) Other.
Please pick one. Feel free to elaborate, but please stick to one reply each for this thread. I'm not interested in fights or refutations of incorrect points or baiting or whatever.
I want to know how you, at this moment in time, feel about the idea of converting to a new edition of the game.
I expect that people's answers will change over time. This is not the last time I will ask this question, so we'll have a chance to gauge the issue as we go along.
We're currently playing in Ptolus, and at this time decided that we're stickiing with 3.5 with no plans to switch over to 4e......
With what I know, I'd rather stay with 3e than change.
If Pathfinder is done in 4e, I might change for it, too, but not even that is a sure thing right now.
At this point, they'd have to come out with a metric kilo-ton of awesome stuff to convince me to go 4e wholesale.
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And the rest of my gaming group seems to feel that way pretty strongly too. So far, I dislike about 90% of what I'm reading about 4th edition. I'll most likely buy the 4th edition Player's Handbook to see what all the fuss is about, and in case a friend wants to run it, but that's probably about it. The one thing that might get me to switch is if they redo Ravenloft for 4th, and do it really, really well. Or if the PH truly blows me away, which I don't foresee.
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C. But I am stunningly unsold on 4.0 at this point. The mechanics changes seem radical to me. I do a ton of organized play and will have to develop some competency in the rules set to play RPGA events, but I would very much prefer alternatives.
One thing could get me to convert to 4.0. High level play. If you've every tried to design something for ATL/APL 12+ then you know how broken high level mechanics are. Having writen the last Sheldomar sloped for APL 6-18, I can testify to the weakness of the mechanics in this regard. BLEH!
If 4.0 can make a dynamic rules set that is durable through 20th+ level, I will rethink my disdain for the marketing and the way the OGL companies are being excised from the market. If not, Runequest is looking pretty sweet in its current edition.
I have to say 3.5 for probably two years at least. My group is not likely to switch unless I nudge them and I am nowhere near sold on 4th yet. We still have several adventures to run through.I just finished 'Age of Worms' a few months ago. (loved it by the way.) Haven't run SC or ST yet, and next time it is my turn to DM I will most likely be running Pathfinder first before those other ones.
That's just me. With 5 out of 7 in our group having at one time taken a turn as DM, we could have a long time before running out of useful 3.5 stuff.
If Paizo does switch to 4th, I will most likely keep my subscriptions, but I could see my home group not playing those adventures for several years.
If 4th does completely wow, I could see us switching sooner.
On a side note, I play on a play-by-post site with over 100 very active members, and there is little talk or interest among them for 4th. They live all over the country though so I'm not sure what they plan to do with their home games.
D) Other.
I will probably buy the 4E PHB to look for actual improvements I can plunder or adapt. I can't see me buying the 4E MM. And the 4E DMG is looking pretty iffy as well. So far, 4E just isn't compelling.
C. I am not impressed with 4-D venture yet, and I pretty much like 3-D still. I aim to buy the basic books of 4th, and only decide after that if I keep at it. Otherwise, I have fluff, crunch and scenarios to last me at least a few decades.
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You stick with the one that brought you. If you have a good time with him and like him, you invite him bacj to your place. You don't then ditch him for his richer younger cousin who has a nicer TV.
I may play both. I play more than one system now. I can add a whole new 4e game if I like how 4er plays. but that won't take any time or moeny away from my 3.5e games, which are the best campaigns and characters i've ever had.
You stick with the one that brought you. If you have a good time with him and like him, you invite him back to your place. You don't then ditch him for his richer younger cousin who has a nicer TV.
QFT, especially for IRL, Dungeon Grrrl... ^_^
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You stick with the one that brought you. If you have a good time with him and like him, you invite him bacj to your place. You don't then ditch him for his richer younger cousin who has a nicer TV.
Hold on there...
I agree about staying 3.5, but as to the analogy above what kind of TV are we talking about? (And does he have NFL Sunday Ticket?)
I mean, let's not be hasty...
It's B) for me... - I'm adamant that I'll buy no more D&D-products by WotC - "Expedition to the Ruins of Greyhawk" was a fitting swansong... sigh.
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You stick with the one that brought you. If you have a good time with him and like him, you invite him bacj to your place. You don't then ditch him for his richer younger cousin who has a nicer TV.
Hold on there...
I agree about staying 3.5, but as to the analogy above what kind of TV are we talking about? (And does he have NFL Sunday Ticket?)
I mean, let's not be hasty...
You boys and your toys. sigh.
Look, I don't see any reason you can't have a relationship with a guy and his cousin. I've done it. And I may play both 3.5 and 4e, if 4e has a n ice flatscreen.
But you never dis the guy who made the FIRST effort, unless he disrespects you first. I, in fact, reward both initial effort an attentivenes,s often all out of proportion. And I never regret that, though it does surprise guys 9and gals) who have been subject ot he psychic blackmail theory of dating.
(For example, see what a few people posting in my cmapaign journal has done to my free time... I meant to post one every week or two...)