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so how does a war effect this multi national corp. or does it


Individual characters may become part of the militias or an entire corp may. However, as I have read it, corps that are part of a standing alliance cannot join en mass. More to come.


im currently running around in a moa . i finaly was able to start running level 2 missions and it seems that cruiser is just not up to the task of handling that level of mission. is it me or is this true. should i just run level one missions until i can purchase a battle cruiser ? which since is going to take a bit since i lost three ships trying this so far. two where insured one wasnt.


when did the location of the headquarters get moved? or did the name of the place get changed.

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Knighttom wrote:
when did the location of the headquarters get moved? or did the name of the place get changed.

We relocated the Headquarters in anticipation of siding with the Gallente Federation for faction warfare. I'd sent out a corp-wide e-mail on this several weeks ago. We've vacated the Amdonen base as well as several others. There are still a few personal items that our members must collect from Caldari and Amarr space before we make the final decision to side with the Gallente Military. I expect that to happen by the end of the month.


Knighttom wrote:
im currently running around in a moa . i finaly was able to start running level 2 missions and it seems that cruiser is just not up to the task of handling that level of mission. is it me or is this true. should i just run level one missions until i can purchase a battle cruiser ? which since is going to take a bit since i lost three ships trying this so far. two where insured one wasnt.

The general guideline for mission running is this:

Level 1 - Can be done in frigates if you're careful or have decent skills. Cruisers will turn these into a cakewalk.

Level 2 - You need at least a cruiser if your loadout and skills are at least decent. Research into the mission also becomes necessary at this level. Having a battlecruiser will let you AFK these missions.

Level 3 - A battlecruiser is highly recommended, and you'd best know what you'll be facing. Good hardeners and an armor repairer/shield booster are a must. You can run these in a cruiser if you're daring and have an excellent loadout. Taking a battleship on these missions will put you to sleep.

Level 4 - Soloing these is tricky in a well-equipped battleship and with good skills. If you don't harden and tank properly, you won't last 2 minutes in some of these. With an excellent tank, you can solo most of these in a battlecruiser. Naturally, this is where the real money is.

If you're having a problem with combat missions, I would highly suggest you check out BattleClinic.com for some good loadouts for your ship and EveInfo.com for information on the missions (though their info is a little outdated in places). For the most part, trouble that you run into on combat missions will come down to a lack of proper hardening/repping or trying to armor tank and shield tank at the same time. I highly suggest checking out what the "pros" are doing with their ships and then tweak that to fit your skills and budget.

If you have any further questions, let me know.

Liberty's Edge

Fatespinner wrote:
Knighttom wrote:
when did the location of the headquarters get moved? or did the name of the place get changed.
We relocated the Headquarters in anticipation of siding with the Gallente Federation for faction warfare. I'd sent out a corp-wide e-mail on this several weeks ago. We've vacated the Amdonen base as well as several others. There are still a few personal items that our members must collect from Caldari and Amarr space before we make the final decision to side with the Gallente Military. I expect that to happen by the end of the month.

The problem is that corp EVEmails tend to autodelete fairly quickly, so if you're like I was, and trapped OOG by something (like my chain-BSoDs which have thankfully been solved), you'd never know. Thankfully Turin was about and alerted me to what was going on so I could haul my carcass out to the new HQ.

Speaking of which, Plagioclase repops amazingly readily.

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Knighttom wrote:
im currently running around in a moa . i finaly was able to start running level 2 missions and it seems that cruiser is just not up to the task of handling that level of mission. is it me or is this true. should i just run level one missions until i can purchase a battle cruiser ? which since is going to take a bit since i lost three ships trying this so far. two where insured one wasnt.

If you've got decent missile skills try using a caracal, they tend to deal with missions quite a bit better than the railboats (though I havn't flown a Caldari rail boat in an age and they've had a redesign since then.)


thanks all to the replys.


just a curiosity. evemon list some ships with a feature of passengers. did at one time or currently can a ship carry someone in there pod or something.


Heretics! Burn! My lasers shall dance across your hulls!

If my corp ever gets around to declaring for the amarrians that is.... ;P

Greetings in space from Tiberius "The Flying Disaster" Rhavinia

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Rhavin wrote:

Heretics! Burn! My lasers shall dance across your hulls!

If my corp ever gets around to declaring for the amarrians that is.... ;P

Greetings in space from Tiberius "The Flying Disaster" Rhavinia

Sadly, I am the only Amarrian citizen in the Seven Swords, and these heretical dogs are intending to declare fealty to the Gallente.

At least I rescued a pack of Slavers from their intent to sell the poor things on the open market. Now my hangar at the HQ station is guarded by a pack of the Hounds. Very effective, the way they feed themselves on unsuspecting technicians and other intruders.

And now, back to convincing CreoDron that they should like the Ni-kunni who keeps feeding their techs to his 'cultural' pets.


Rhavin wrote:

Heretics! Burn! My lasers shall dance across your hulls!

If my corp ever gets around to declaring for the amarrians that is.... ;P

Greetings in space from Tiberius "The Flying Disaster" Rhavinia

Haven't seen you in the 7 Swords chat channel in an age Tiberius. :-P

We've still not signed on in the militia affairs - although my tractor beams and a healthy selection of other frigate-scale fittings and ammunition is selling quite well at one of the less-trafficked GallFed stations.

As in, it was so poorly stockpiled on merchandise it didn't even have any shuttles for sale. The horror ! ^_^


Knighttom wrote:
just a curiosity. evemon list some ships with a feature of passengers. did at one time or currently can a ship carry someone in there pod or something.

Like some things you can come across in EVE, there are certain statistics floating around that presently have no bearing, such as passengers, or skills you may be qualified for that are - so far as can be determined - simply not in the game.

At a guess, passengers were probably intended to be a seperate carrying capacity from cargo - thus passengers for people as opposed to livestock to go in the cargo bay. Presumably they didn't figure out how to seperately code in 2 distinct cargo carrying methods without fubaring the agents' checks for mission-fulfillment criteria or something.


So, I keep hearing about people magically alchemizing LP on a 1 point = 2k Isk basis. How do these miracle workers do it? I've done some research and almost everything I find has tags costing more than the item sells for.


Rhavin wrote:
So, I keep hearing about people magically alchemizing LP on a 1 point = 2k Isk basis. How do these miracle workers do it? I've done some research and almost everything I find has tags costing more than the item sells for.

That's an interesting price for the LP - the normal ratio I heard was 1,000 ISK per LP plus any associated ISK costs for the item itself.

Naturally, this seems to fall through the floor for items one can also acquire reliably by way of Storyline missions, combined with supply vs. demand. Attribute implants, for example, are available by way of the aforementioned Storyline missions up to the +4 (Standard) grade implants as a general rule of thumb.

Using attribute implants as the example still, PER and WILL are used for the combat skills (ship command, gunnery, missiles) as the Primary attribute, while INT and MEM to varying degrees govorn the numerous support skills (engineering, electronics, navigation, mechanic, industry, drones [MEM in combination with WILL, IIRC]) while the lowly CHA attribute govorns Leadership, Corporate Management, Social and Trade skills.

Tags, now, are another matter - one may as well get used to just scrimping up your own as you get them for the LP Store items that demand certain tags while selling off all the other tags you get. Pirate tags, for the now, are little more than trophies at this point in EVE for some reason. (They used to be in demand in certain event / storyline missions, not any more that I am aware of.) There is a 5-part level 1 mission I've heard of that one can acquire CONCORD tags from (3 at a time) as well.

Since the tags are in overwhelming demand compared to supply - and of course sheer naked greed on the part of MANY players - for the desirous faction tags ... it sucks to try to pay ISK for them unless you REALLY want those tags. Better off grinding like mad for a long time and accumulating your own supply...

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Moved thread to shiny new video games forum.

Sczarni

I was told to report in on this thread

Darius Silverbolt

Rukongai Corperation
10th Legion Alliance

May the Red Alliance fall in to shambles!

Rukon has been around for 2 years and held space in Oasa as members of DMC and Cloud Ring as 10th Legion and looking to take more space.

If you haven't been able to tell I am a huge Anit Red Alliance Goonswarm.

If you looking to join and I am the head Director of PVP and the Capital Fleet.

Send me a mail if interested.

/ends recruitment speech.

So how are you guys?!

I have been playing EvE for 2.5 years roughly and have 33 Million Skill Points. I am a PVP'er for the most part (not a pirate) but will shot other when corp/alliance assests are online the line. I don't do the high sec greifing or things of that nature.

Some of the ships I fly:
All Tech 1 caladi and Gallente
All Tech 1 minmatar (exepct Battleships but will get them later)

Phoenix Class Dreadnaught (Arcadia)
Capital Industrial Ship Rorqual (Serenity)

If you Seven Swords get war dec'ed let me know and I will help out and many many others .... :-)

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Glad to see you, Darius and thanks for the offer! Seven Swords is pretty small right now (less than 10 active members), but we're currently planning to side with the Gallente Federation for Faction Warfare in August. We're mostly a high-sec mining and missioning corporation, but we do have intentions to develop a PvP-oriented branch... eventually. We are also anti-Goon and perhaps might look into joining your Alliance in the distant future (y'know, when we actually have money and stuff).

I'll definitely keep you in mind and feel free to look any of our members up online. We'd be glad to barter and trade with you (we have several very talented miners and engineers).

-Fatespinner, a.k.a. Fatwatai, CEO of Seven Swords Ltd.

Grand Lodge

I'm currently on a sabbatical from EVE but I've been playing for three years now (I think)...

My main has 36m SP and my alt has 29m SP.

I fly for the Confederation of Independent Corporations [CIC] Alliance, Freelancers.

If you're looking for a friendly bunch of lunatics to fly with then check them out! They have empire operations as well as a 0.0 presence. PVP training, etc.

/end shameless plug

I'll be back later this year when I can actually play enough to cover my losses.

SM

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I am known as Kalas Kinnison on EVE Online and am a member of Seven Swords Ltd. Not sure what I plan on doing in the game. Focused mostly on getter bigger ships and bigger guns at the moment to make combat missions easier.

Drop me a line in game if you like.

Sczarni

Whats is the channel that you guys use to talk to the general public?

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Darius Silverbolt wrote:
Whats is the channel that you guys use to talk to the general public?

Seven Swords channel.

Liberty's Edge

Darius Silverbolt wrote:
If you Seven Swords get war dec'ed let me know and I will help out and many many others .... :-)

That offer is much appreciated, not the least because I, personally, would be amazingly ticked off if we got war dec'd - we're small enough now that we wouldn't be able to afford dealing with the hostilities from any group bigger than our own.

Fatespinner already said everything else quite well - particularly the simple statement of us being anti-Goon (but then anyone sane is...), so I'll just add a "Welcome, friend!" to it.

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Also, Seven Swords people, it was agreed upon by Turin, Karelzarath, and myself that Monday nights would be "group night" for us. This is the evening in which we'll be conducting group operations (usually lowsec mining operations for now) provided enough people actually show up.

Our previous experience with this sort of operation was a smashing success and we look forward to doing more of it in the future. So, if you'll looking for a little 'edge-of-your-seat' excitement, join us on Monday nights!

Non-Swords people are welcome to join us, however, the primary interest of these operations is to increase our corporate stocks of rare minerals, so we may not be able to compensate you overly much for your time and risk. You're welcome to come have fun, though!


Kassil wrote:
Darius Silverbolt wrote:
If you Seven Swords get war dec'ed let me know and I will help out and many many others .... :-)

That offer is much appreciated, not the least because I, personally, would be amazingly ticked off if we got war dec'd - we're small enough now that we wouldn't be able to afford dealing with the hostilities from any group bigger than our own.

Fatespinner already said everything else quite well - particularly the simple statement of us being anti-Goon (but then anyone sane is...), so I'll just add a "Welcome, friend!" to it.

Ayup, 'tis true, getting war-dec'd would do Naughty Things.

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Okay, folks, war has been declared. As of today, Seven Swords Ltd. is now a member of the Gallente Militia. It is open season to pwn b**&%es.


Fatespinner wrote:
Okay, folks, war has been declared. As of today, Seven Swords Ltd. is now a member of the Gallente Militia. It is open season to pwn b~%!#es.

die heathens


Not entirely sure I'm so keen on the Faction Warfare / semi-open PvP facet of the game after my brief experience ending about 30 minutes ago.

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Wow ... what a total fluke that there's a group of Paizo'ans in EvE, I was just thinking about joining back up after my last corp disintegrated right around the release of Trinity.

This new faction warfare element really has me intrigued.

If I get back in, I'll send you guys a note (Carmanah Strathcona will likely become my main) since it sounds like his skills are right up your alley. If I didn't sell any of it off I should have a couple of Indies and a few mining freightors.


if you couldn't tell I'm not in corp... I roam around and kill things.


The Faction Warfare missions are tolerable enough, even worthwhile.

The low-sec space stuff falls under tolerable as well as part of the risk vs reward is the potential to get hulled and podded by war targets in the pertinent areas of space.

But CONCORD space - with CONCORD supposedly being neutral - is a death trap. Got hulled (250M ISK Drake - got 38M from insurance) and then hunted down and podded by a tackler with 2 Megathrons as the heavy hitters. I was impressed they could lock a pod faster than a pod can go to warp, so they get their props for that.

Jump Clone absorbed the otherwise exorbitant loss the clone would have been... about another 250M altogether.

Unfortunately, this has not done much other can confirm my detestation of PvP in EVE. If they'd kept CONCORD as a "Switzerland", so people can get around in Empire and not get ganked willy-nilly by some bushwhackers, I wouldn't mind FW so much. Worse, since the whole corp is signed up, I can't just 'retire' from the Militia and go about my merry print-flipping business.


but see, this is exactly what I love about EvE and it's PvP system. Concord provides consequences not protection and going to war removes the consequences.

All I can say is, sorry you lost what you did but if you're at war (especially with an entire faction) you should always keep local open and set the brackets to show a red skull next to any player's name who you can shoot at legally. This should give you sufficient warning in the future to avoid any such trouble.


Rhavin wrote:

but see, this is exactly what I love about EvE and it's PvP system. Concord provides consequences not protection and going to war removes the consequences.

All I can say is, sorry you lost what you did but if you're at war (especially with an entire faction) you should always keep local open and set the brackets to show a red skull next to any player's name who you can shoot at legally. This should give you sufficient warning in the future to avoid any such trouble.

Oh, I know the standard tricks - I wasn't inclined to shoot the guy, just motor on & do my thing. This was a scenario where (a) I was ganked just after jumping in-system; (b) the other 2 chaps were NOT visible in local chat - war targets are marked; and (c) there wasn't much I could do about it other than go down swinging.

I will note that joining faction wasn't my decision. At this point it's water under the bridge.

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I've decided that I'm pretty much done with EVE. I haven't even tried Faction Warfare yet, but the amount of work required to get my standings up to the level they need to be in order to earn a respectable cash flow just isn't worth it anymore. I cancelled my subs today. Fatwatai's paid time runs out in September, while Jing is paid until January. I signed CEO back over to Khellias. Maybe if everyone decides that Faction Warfare isn't their thing, then you could leave the faction as a corp and people who were interested could sign up on their own.

I've just gotten tired of logging in, looking at my standings, looking at the L2 agents I have access to, shaking my head, and logging off again. I just don't have the kind of time or patience needed to make it worthwhile. Sorry folks.


Fatespinner wrote:

I've decided that I'm pretty much done with EVE. I haven't even tried Faction Warfare yet, but the amount of work required to get my standings up to the level they need to be in order to earn a respectable cash flow just isn't worth it anymore. I cancelled my subs today. Fatwatai's paid time runs out in September, while Jing is paid until January. I signed CEO back over to Khellias. Maybe if everyone decides that Faction Warfare isn't their thing, then you could leave the faction as a corp and people who were interested could sign up on their own.

I've just gotten tired of logging in, looking at my standings, looking at the L2 agents I have access to, shaking my head, and logging off again. I just don't have the kind of time or patience needed to make it worthwhile. Sorry folks.

You'll be missed Fatey/Fatwatai. Hopefully you set your toons to long skill trains.

BTW, if you don't want your stuff any more, can I have it ? ^_^

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I'll probably dump all my stuff in the corp hangar for anyone to grab at.

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That's too bad - I just finished downloading the client for a re-sub to see if I like the new changes.

So just out of curiosity, how many people are still active in the Corp, and around what times? I read about the monday night stuff, do you guys still do that? Are there other "leaders" in the corp, or were you (Fatespinner) the kind of glue that bound it all together?

I don't know if I'm going to stick around after my 2 month time code expires, but without a crew to go back to, it'd be nice to have some folks from a common community to chat with, even if one stays without a corps.


I imagine we'll keep the Seven Swords chat channel open so Paizonians can chit chat about non-EVE (and EVE) stuff even if all else goes to the wayside. Feel free to sign in to that channel if you're of the mind - most of the current players are 7 or 8 pm local time types during the week, not counting time spent at game, making weekends rather light on attendance. Sadly, we've not seen hide nor hair of Lilith the Demon Queen of Victuals and her hubby since shortly after they applied to the corp. I'm assuming (since she has her own kobold-critter PDF product up - yay Lilith! - ) that she is busy with other projects. Or doesn't want to get podded due to FW ...

I've not yet had a chance to talk with Khellias or the others 'in game' to see what they want to do. We've been discussing some interesting options lately.

BTW, Fatespinner, when you decide to 'take the plunge' and bow out for good, have your toons resign from the corp please. This may sound harsh - but when people quit EVE and fail to quit the corp, they often remain 'stuck' in the corp's roster. This has been known to cause corps to force themselves to close & be made anew. (I know of at least one corp that has basically one active player, a very inactive CEO and about 30 'dead' characters fubaring its standings for eternity...)

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Turin the Mad wrote:
BTW, Fatespinner, when you decide to 'take the plunge' and bow out for good, have your toons resign from the corp please. This may sound harsh - but when people quit EVE and fail to quit the corp, they often remain 'stuck' in the corp's roster. This has been known to cause corps to force themselves to close & be made anew. (I know of at least one corp that has basically one active player, a very inactive CEO and about 30 'dead' characters fubaring its standings for eternity...)

Oh yes, I'm quite aware of that issue. I had a hell of a time kicking out former players when I assumed control several months ago. I wouldn't want anyone to deal with THAT again. :D


Fatespinner wrote:
Turin the Mad wrote:
BTW, Fatespinner, when you decide to 'take the plunge' and bow out for good, have your toons resign from the corp please. This may sound harsh - but when people quit EVE and fail to quit the corp, they often remain 'stuck' in the corp's roster. This has been known to cause corps to force themselves to close & be made anew. (I know of at least one corp that has basically one active player, a very inactive CEO and about 30 'dead' characters fubaring its standings for eternity...)
Oh yes, I'm quite aware of that issue. I had a hell of a time kicking out former players when I assumed control several months ago. I wouldn't want anyone to deal with THAT again. :D

^_^ Kewlness.

BTW, Jump Clones do not return you to the body you left from when you get podded - it eats your regular clone. That was a 20M ISK eye-opener... ~watches his wallet shriek in agony~


Fatespinner wrote:
I've decided that I'm pretty much done with EVE. I haven't even tried Faction Warfare yet, but the amount of work required to get my standings up to the level they need to be in order to earn a respectable cash flow just isn't worth it anymore.

Well, crap. If you want to PL your standings, I'm more than willing to help out. It's not going to be the same without you, man.


Just checking Turin, do you know the following trick to avoiding being podded?

-Select a distant stellar object such as a planet or station when the fight turns against you.
-When you hit hull start spamming the "warp-to" button in the selected items overview

Your commands once you hit 50% hull carry over to your pod this means that there is no "pod loading" lag to the warp-out process and allows yuor pod to begin warp the nanosecond that your ship pops. Using this method you warp fast enough that even insta-lock ships can't lock you because the humans controlling them can't click fast enough.


Rhavin wrote:

Just checking Turin, do you know the following trick to avoiding being podded?

-Select a distant stellar object such as a planet or station when the fight turns against you.
-When you hit hull start spamming the "warp-to" button in the selected items overview

Your commands once you hit 50% hull carry over to your pod this means that there is no "pod loading" lag to the warp-out process and allows yuor pod to begin warp the nanosecond that your ship pops. Using this method you warp fast enough that even insta-lock ships can't lock you because the humans controlling them can't click fast enough.

That's useful to know - it won't work in a warp bubble I think, but otherwise it'd rawk! ^^ thanks :)

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Would this 7 swords faction be responcable for some sort of war thing happening this Sunday? Or would anyone here know anything about a faction that is?


Kevin Mack wrote:
Would this 7 swords faction be responcable for some sort of war thing happening this Sunday? Or would anyone here know anything about a faction that is?

The Faction Warfare is on-going in EVE. Seven Swords is currently (as of the last time I checked) enlisted in the Gallentean Militia. Think of it as a giant, on-going "try to kill all those of opposed factions" RAID. Only difference is, you have to resign the faction to not be killable in return. If it flashes red, you can try to kill it.

One can enlist in a sympathetic faction pretty easily - I do not know if a brand-new character can enlist, but I understand it would be pretty easy to do so, after your trial period (14 days) is over I believe, depending on how quickly you can build standing.

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Im asking because one of my players is not showing up this sunday at my D&D game because of some sort of faction brawl which he was told if he does not show up for he's getting kicked out of the faction and since he is the charecter with the harrow deck (Playing COCT) And we need it for an important part of the adventure were in Im now being forced into possibly having to cancal my game this sunday.


Kevin Mack wrote:
Im asking because one of my players is not showing up this sunday at my D&D game because of some sort of faction brawl which he was told if he does not show up for he's getting kicked out of the faction and since he is the charecter with the harrow deck (Playing COCT) And we need it for an important part of the adventure were in Im now being forced into possibly having to cancal my game this sunday.

He's in a "mandatory participation or g'bye" scenario ?!

What a crock, imo.

Such guilds / corps in an MMO are unwarranted, albiet prolific. I would suggest that he has a tough decision to make.

Perhaps one can acquire the deck from an FLGS ?

Liberty's Edge

Kevin Mack wrote:
Im asking because one of my players is not showing up this sunday at my D&D game because of some sort of faction brawl which he was told if he does not show up for he's getting kicked out of the faction and since he is the charecter with the harrow deck (Playing COCT) And we need it for an important part of the adventure were in Im now being forced into possibly having to cancal my game this sunday.

Sounds like he's involved in one of the various ongoing wars between the corps with too many PVP hotheads. I'd personally suggest he loot what he can from the hangar and bug off to someplace friendlier to gamers.


As a courtesy update: Seven Swords was withdrawn a short time ago from the Faction Warfare. Individuals may of course enlist on their own accord. ^_^

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