Although Rise of the Runelords is great thus far..


Curse of the Crimson Throne


An idea of a completely urban focused campaign has got me really stoked for issues 7-9.. I don't recollect anybody doing this.. Although I'm sure it's been done before.. Still looking forward to Khorvosa.


GreenGrunt wrote:
An idea of a completely urban focused campaign has got me really stoked for issues 7-9.. I don't recollect anybody doing this.. Although I'm sure it's been done before.. Still looking forward to Khorvosa.

Ummm..... Shackled City???

That was pretty much entirely set in the city of Cauldron. But i am looking to the improvements over that model that the fantastic staff at Paizo can bring to an Urban Campaign.

Ahh... So many great possibilities for campaigns, so little time to actually run them :(


GreenGrunt wrote:
An idea of a completely urban focused campaign has got me really stoked for issues 7-9.. I don't recollect anybody doing this.. Although I'm sure it's been done before.. Still looking forward to Khorvosa.

Ptolus.

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GreenGrunt wrote:
An idea of a completely urban focused campaign has got me really stoked for issues 7-9.. I don't recollect anybody doing this.. Although I'm sure it's been done before.. Still looking forward to Khorvosa.

90210.


F. Wesley Schneider wrote:
GreenGrunt wrote:
An idea of a completely urban focused campaign has got me really stoked for issues 7-9.. I don't recollect anybody doing this.. Although I'm sure it's been done before.. Still looking forward to Khorvosa.
90210.

I'll have to skip that RPG... ; )

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Freeport's another great example. Urban campaigns are certainly out there, but despite our best intentions, Paizo's never really done a full-on urban adventure path. Shackled City isn't really an urban adventure path in my opinion; there's far too many dungeons in there. Not that that's a bad thing, of course. Dungeons rock!

But yeah, with Curse of the Crimson Throne, I'm really looking forward to spending a good 9 levels in a city before setting foot outside its walls. And even then, we'll be back for more before it ends!


I love urban adventures. It's probably why Shackled City is my favorite AP, even though it's the sloppiest of them all, by far. (The metaplot doesn't really stand up under scrutiny, the links between adventures are often tenuous, and NPCs pop in and out of the story at random.) Anyway, "Escape From Old Korvosa's" clear homage to "Escape From New York" has inspired me to ask for a very particular favor:

I want the AP to open with the PCs condemned to death and held in the city's dungeon (the characters' crime--and guilt or innocence--can be determined by each player as he/she sees fit) before the Queen offers to commute their sentence if they save the city.

That would be cool, if you ask me.


Shackled City wasn't primarily urban, even though Cauldron was the lynchpin of the path. Far too much action took place in the surrounding area and on other planes.

Although most of the original Freeport trilogy was urban, most of the later adventures took place further away on other islands.

Sovereign Court

F. Wesley Schneider wrote:
GreenGrunt wrote:
An idea of a completely urban focused campaign has got me really stoked for issues 7-9.. I don't recollect anybody doing this.. Although I'm sure it's been done before.. Still looking forward to Khorvosa.
90210.

Awesome! Brenda Walsh better get the umber hulk's confusing gaze, what with her lopsy eye.


I never got the entire Shackled City AP.. But after looking through some of the path, I felt the same way as many of you here.. Shackled City isn't entirely within the confines of the Cauldron itself.

Crimson Throne on the other hand, sounds entirely concentrated within the city of Khorvosa itself.. The premise of the PCs breaking out of a quarantined quarter of a city sounds awesome.. Sure the plot has been done before (a/k/a Resident Evil and other zombie flicks) but it's about time somebody applied aspects of that plot device to the D&D setting. I am eagerly awaiting for some PCs to trounce some H-Knights and plague doctors in the break out.


F. Wesley Schneider wrote:
GreenGrunt wrote:
An idea of a completely urban focused campaign has got me really stoked for issues 7-9.. I don't recollect anybody doing this.. Although I'm sure it's been done before.. Still looking forward to Khorvosa.
90210.

90210 is considered an urban campaign by the West Coasters!? Ach Du Leiber!! Say it isn't so!

Quick have a Westie redeem their homeland by repeating the mantra: Firefly should never have been cancelled!

Paizo Employee Creative Director

GreenGrunt wrote:
Crimson Throne on the other hand, sounds entirely concentrated within the city of Khorvosa itself.. The premise of the PCs breaking out of a quarantined quarter of a city sounds awesome.. Sure the plot has been done before (a/k/a Resident Evil and other zombie flicks) but it's about time somebody applied aspects of that plot device to the D&D setting. I am eagerly awaiting for some PCs to trounce some H-Knights and plague doctors in the break out.

The first three adventures in the six-part path take place in Korvosa. Adventures 4 and 5 do not. Adventure 6 is about half in Korvosa, half elsewhere.

Just trying to manage expectations.


Crimson Throne will probably be my first attempt at running an AP as well. I'm starting Red Hand of Doom soon, and when I'm done with that (probably next spring or summer), the first few issues of Crimson Throne will already be out. Hopefully, it will be good enough to keep me out of 4th edition :)

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Jebadiah Utecht wrote:

I love urban adventures. It's probably why Shackled City is my favorite AP, even though it's the sloppiest of them all, by far. (The metaplot doesn't really stand up under scrutiny, the links between adventures are often tenuous, and NPCs pop in and out of the story at random.) Anyway, "Escape From Old Korvosa's" clear homage to "Escape From New York" has inspired me to ask for a very particular favor:

I want the AP to open with the PCs condemned to death and held in the city's dungeon (the characters' crime--and guilt or innocence--can be determined by each player as he/she sees fit) before the Queen offers to commute their sentence if they save the city.

That would be cool, if you ask me.

The present Styes campaign started with the PC's head in nooses as the clock began to strike 12...:)


Jebadiah Utecht wrote:

I want the AP to open with the PCs condemned to death and held in the city's dungeon (the characters' crime--and guilt or innocence--can be determined by each player as he/she sees fit) before the Queen offers to commute their sentence if they save the city.

That would be cool, if you ask me.

I'm stealing your idea. Either that, or that the characters are imprisoned and are able to escape during the commotion. Is this a common DM-thing? Planning how to run a campaign he can't possibly start in almost a year?

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Richard Pett wrote:

The present Styes campaign started with the PC's head in nooses as the clock began to strike 12...:)

yawn

How pastiche.


Logue on Pett's Styes:

Nicolas Logue wrote:


How pastiche.

OH! The cut! I can hardly wait to see where this goes....

[bookmarks thread]


Richard Pett wrote:
The present Styes campaign started with the PC's head in nooses as the clock began to strike 12...:)

Pett, that's why I love you.


Nicolas Logue wrote:
Richard Pett wrote:

The present Styes campaign started with the PC's head in nooses as the clock began to strike 12...:)

yawn

How pastiche.

Logue, that's why I love you. Now, make my request come true.

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I have something a littl special in mind for the kickoff of "Edge of Anarchy" but if you want an awesome killer-thriller beginning for a 1st level module that blows Pett's trite attempt away, you need only look to "Hangman's Noose" coming out in January.

Liberty's Edge

Richard Pett wrote:
Jebadiah Utecht wrote:

I love urban adventures. It's probably why Shackled City is my favorite AP, even though it's the sloppiest of them all, by far. (The metaplot doesn't really stand up under scrutiny, the links between adventures are often tenuous, and NPCs pop in and out of the story at random.) Anyway, "Escape From Old Korvosa's" clear homage to "Escape From New York" has inspired me to ask for a very particular favor:

I want the AP to open with the PCs condemned to death and held in the city's dungeon (the characters' crime--and guilt or innocence--can be determined by each player as he/she sees fit) before the Queen offers to commute their sentence if they save the city.

That would be cool, if you ask me.

The present Styes campaign started with the PC's head in nooses as the clock began to strike 12...:)

Then you get to say, "roll initiative." Only they can't do anything.

Mwahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
(don't sweat Logue, man. He thinks pastiche is something strippers wear to cover their naughty bits.)

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Heathansson wrote:


(don't sweat Logue, man. He thinks pastiche is something strippers wear to cover their naughty bits.)

It doesn't mean that!?!?!?!!?

I've been living a lie.


Nicolas Logue wrote:
I have something a littl special in mind for the kickoff of "Edge of Anarchy" but if you want an awesome killer-thriller beginning for a 1st level module that blows Pett's trite attempt away, you need only look to "Hangman's Noose" coming out in January.

This had better not be another Spaghetti Western!!


Nicolas Logue wrote:
I've been living a lie.

I've Been Living a Lie

The tear jerking story of Nicolas Logue's depraved descent into heterosexuality.

Oh! Wait! I am in the wrong thread again.

Disregard.


CourtFool wrote:
Nicolas Logue wrote:
I've been living a lie.

I've Been Living a Lie

The tear jerking story of Nicolas Logue's depraved descent into heterosexuality.

Oh! Wait! I am in the wrong thread again.

Disregard.

What a second.. Are you suggesting that Mr. Logue... is ... a .. swinger!?

Too late!

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GreenGrunt wrote:
CourtFool wrote:
Nicolas Logue wrote:
I've been living a lie.

I've Been Living a Lie

The tear jerking story of Nicolas Logue's depraved descent into heterosexuality.

Oh! Wait! I am in the wrong thread again.

Disregard.

What a second.. Are you suggesting that Mr. Logue... is ... a .. swinger!?

Too late!

Curse my unwavering heterosexuality!!! Curse it! Now I have no fashion sense and miss all the cool parties! Damn me!

Liberty's Edge

GreenGrunt wrote:
F. Wesley Schneider wrote:
GreenGrunt wrote:
An idea of a completely urban focused campaign has got me really stoked for issues 7-9.. I don't recollect anybody doing this.. Although I'm sure it's been done before.. Still looking forward to Khorvosa.
90210.

90210 is considered an urban campaign by the West Coasters!? Ach Du Leiber!! Say it isn't so!

Quick have a Westie redeem their homeland by repeating the mantra: Firefly should never have been cancelled!

...You say that as if it were something that isn't blindingly obvious.


Kassil wrote:


...You say that as if it were something that isn't blindingly obvious.

Which? The West Coast 90210 urban campaign or Firefly?

Some people don't even know what Firefly is... or rather was.. Still (sigh)

Liberty's Edge

GreenGrunt wrote:
Kassil wrote:


...You say that as if it were something that isn't blindingly obvious.

Which? The West Coast 90210 urban campaign or Firefly?

Some people don't even know what Firefly is... or rather was.. Still (sigh)

Firefly, of course.


tdewitt274 wrote:

Ptolus.

Ptolus was an urban setting, not a series of campaign-long adventures.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
NotJeff wrote:
tdewitt274 wrote:

Ptolus.

Ptolus was an urban setting, not a series of campaign-long adventures.

It wasn't an entire adventure path like we are used to from Paizo, but the Ptolus setting had a pretty well organized campaign 'adventure path' set up using areas and groups detailed in the main part of the book.

It also had three or four basic campaign frameworks set in there.

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NotJeff wrote:
tdewitt274 wrote:

Ptolus.

Ptolus was an urban setting, not a series of campaign-long adventures.

90210 on the other hand...

Liberty's Edge

NotJeff wrote:
tdewitt274 wrote:

Ptolus.

Ptolus was an urban setting, not a series of campaign-long adventures.

Which is not totally true! I presently DM "Night of Dissolution" in combination with "The Banewarrens" and used the starting adventures in the Ptolus Hardcover to get the players to level 4. I am sure the'll be around level 15 when they finish both adventures and then there's still Jabel Shammar and Goth Gulgamel to finsih the campaign, not talking off Dreta Phantas, Queen of Lies or other stuff which is all in there as well....


F. Wesley Schneider wrote:


90210 on the other hand...

Argh! If you guys are getting your inspiration from 90120..56..36..92.. This does not bode well for the next Pathfinder campaign. It should be called Pathfinder Lite.. or Panzyflyer.. : P

Dark Archive

Another huge fan of urban adventuring here !

I can only be psyched by the prospects of issues 7+.

"Ptolus was an urban setting, not a series of campaign-long adventures."

... although it does include all the detailed urban locations (as in... keyed maps, adventure and campaign hooks etc) needed for a level 1-20 campaign at least. I think Ptolus can be considered to be a lot of things... an urban campaign sourcebook, a setting, a collection of hooks, of detailed sample locations, a guide to high level adventuring... yes. A lot of things, definitely.

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Benoist Poiré wrote:

... although it does include all the detailed urban locations (as in... keyed maps, adventure and campaign hooks etc) needed for a level 1-20 campaign at least. I think Ptolus can be considered to be a lot of things... an urban campaign sourcebook, a setting, a collection of hooks, of detailed sample locations, a guide to high level adventuring... yes. A lot of things, definitely.

A possible murder weapon in a D&D version of Clue™

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Coridan wrote:
A possible murder weapon in a D&D version of Clue™

LOL. Indeed.


F. Wesley Schneider wrote:


90210.

So you're following Wizards' example?

I can see it now:
Cayden Cailean has the hots for Desna (naughty boy likes older women), but despite the bravery he has on the battlefield, when it comes to love, Bast got his tongue. So he gets Shelyn as a ghost writer (her being the goddess of arts, and also a female deity, and the love goddess part, so she knows how to write).
But the thing is: when Desna reads that stuff, she fells in love with the writer, and of course she finds out soon enough that it was Shelyn all along.
At this point, the two goddesses are at it like knives, Cayden is frustrated (sexually and otherwise), and, being who he is, he gets drunk and then picks a fight. As the terrestial consequence to that, a whole nation will drown in war as a rebellion breaks out. And with the men out fighting, the women have to make do with each other (as above, so below!)

Actually, that doesn't sound so bad.

Scarab Sages

KaeYoss wrote:

Cayden Cailean has the hots for Desna (naughty boy likes older women), but despite the bravery he has on the battlefield, when it comes to love, Bast got his tongue. So he gets Shelyn as a ghost writer (her being the goddess of arts, and also a female deity, and the love goddess part, so she knows how to write).
But the thing is: when Desna reads that stuff, she fells in love with the writer, and of course she finds out soon enough that it was Shelyn all along.

My wife has always said that Cyrano deBergerac was a God....


OroboroSteve wrote:

My wife has always said that Cyrano deBergerac was a God....

God. bah. He only amounted to an asteroid

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3582_Cyrano

I mean, an asteroid. Not even a moon. ;-P

*goes and hangs out with some planets*


Don't get me wrong, I love urban campaigns, and roleplaying.

But my hope is also that this AP also has a little dungeoncrawling.

I'm running a city campaign right now, and it actually is kind've hard to work in some nice fat combats. Usually it's "Skulk investigate interact chat scheme fight scheme chat investigate scheme schmooze ambush".

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