Will you have Snake Heads or the equivalent? This is something fearsome from modern China you can add... Maybe as a guild?
Ooooooo I hate those f*+*ing people so much. Yeah, a slaver organization akin to the Snake Heads may show up. I f$&#ing hate them. I've seen first hand the awful repercussions of their human traffiking. I almost joined the FBI out of college with the hopes of getting a crack at these f*~@heads.
...huoguo.
=Hotpot
Soup that cooks on the table in front of you. You throw stuff in and when it's cooked you eat it.
I find the more translations the better for grokking for those who don't speak
I have the utmost respect for good Chinese<-->English interpreters and translators because I suck.
These are probably the two most difficult and opposite languages in the world. English has an insane vocabulary demand and nasty grammar, while written Chinese requires herculean memorization and dedicated penmanship. The upshot of Chinese is that spoken, the grammar is fairly easy, and the upshot of English is that there are a lot of fun ways to practice.
Ooooooo I hate those f***ing people so much. Yeah, a slaver organization akin to the Snake Heads may show up. I f***ing hate them. I've seen first hand the awful repercussions of their human traffiking. I almost joined the FBI out of college with the hopes of getting a crack at these f***heads.
Will you have Snake Heads or the equivalent? This is something fearsome from modern China you can add... Maybe as a guild?
Unfortunately they exist because people use their services. And many Chinese are too afraid to do anything about it. It is a deep fear that is hard to explain. But I think you understand.
Umm, this thread WAS called Japanese names.
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Unfortunately they exist because people use their services. And many Chinese are too afraid to do anything about it. It is a deep fear that is hard to explain. But I think you understand.Ooooooo I hate those f***ing people so much. Yeah, a slaver organization akin to the Snake Heads may show up. I f***ing hate them. I've seen first hand the awful repercussions of their human traffiking. I almost joined the FBI out of college with the hopes of getting a crack at these f***heads.
Will you have Snake Heads or the equivalent? This is something fearsome from modern China you can add... Maybe as a guild?
I'm with you my man...ugh...they profit on other people's fear. They are terrible people the Snake Heads...funny you mention them...I was having a conversation about evil in the world with my wife earlier and we ended up deciding the Snake Heads ranked pretty high up as absolutely worthless parasites...yeah, they'd make a great villainous organization for Tianxia.
Umm, this thread WAS called Japanese names.
lol
Oh yeah!
Blame Lex! He started this! ;-)
Oh, didn't have time to respond to this yesterday and meanwhile the thread has grown rather big...
But some comments from Nothern Europe...for most people, Finnish doesn't have recognizably iconic sound like Norwegian, German, French, Japanese etc. has so there hasn't been much problem with bastardization...those people who want to develop something based on Finnish usually know what they are doing (though Tolkien's Quenya does have notable phonetic differences...for starters, name of the language is impossible in Finnish, it should be something like Kuenja).
However, it happens every now and then that some writer wants to get exotic-sounding names, sometimes also concepts, and from somewhere digs up existing Finnish names (sometimes misspelled but recognizable...). Eg. finding Mielikki and Loviatar in Forgotten Realms is fun, the "Finnish village" in Icewind Dale 2 rather odd, and similar examples crop up here and there...most of them are just quite funny. However, there has been comments if it is exactly good taste to use whole names of real, living people (comments about Lassiviren the assassin have been made also in these boards), so basing naming conventions on research is not trouble-free either.
Personally, I admit on doing that kind of "research"...if I want nice Japanese-sounding name I just pick some Japanese book and pick nice-sounding names from there. Same goes for other "exotic" languages (Bulgarian, Welsh and Irish have all been used). Also if I want nice name in English, I might just pick a name of some bass player in obscure alternative rock band nobody has ever heard of...
These work when you know the target audience, in publishing these might backfire resulting in unexpected mirth or offense.
About historical realism...D&D has traditionally used hodge-podge approach, happily mixing together everything it can find and romantizing the whole thing (rather American approach, if I may say so). Some other games handle their fantasy more realistically with more consistent and historically accurate cultures...if I want to play something like that I go and play those games, if I want to enjoy romantized mish-mash I play D&D. Different folks, different strokes, different itches.
And generally I am amused by that whole orientalism, exotica and romanticism...quite inevitable, I should say (and Japanese themselves are rather notorious of exotic occidentalism), but something I try not to base my thoughts about Asia on (and advise others to not do so either). Though also reading Kringla Heimsins (Norwegian royal sagas from Middle Ages) was an odd experience too, somehow those stories didn't quite fit the popular concept about vikings...
Perhaps Americans would be annoyed if in fantasy a kingdom "inspired" by them had a illiterate king who is a religious zealot with an Int. of 6. The citizens where slothful and fat, and where known for being loud, rude, proud, cocky, arrogant, and bad dressers. They were also an aggressive kingdom verging on being bullies. I'm sure that would upset a few people.
I think I might be able to field this one.
It would depend on the American.
Some would find it funny no matter what. Some would enjoy it, but fear that is what the author actually thought about us. Others would find it infuriating. And various reactions in between.
Just like how David Bowie's song "I'm Afraid of Americans" received so many varied responses.
Personally, I have seen / read so much bastardization of my culture and heritages, I let it all slide. At worst, I hope the author doesn't think that is the truth, and then enjoy the work for everything else it has.
hmm, it is always interesting to hear the thoughts of a purist. The more we know; the more in depth and interesting our games are; thanks for the thread.
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Okay, so James Jacobs and I had a nice little chat a few minutes ago. As I've thought about this subject throughout the morning and early afternoon, I have become more inclined to agree with the OP. After my discussion with James I'm fully in favor of using proper Japanese naming conventions for Minkai. We're no experts, so we might get things wrong once in a while, but the effort will be there. Ditto our Arabic-influenced areas, our Chinese-influenced areas, our German-influenced areas, and so on.
I love languages and cultures, so shame on me for not forcefully enforcing this from the get-go. Any errors you detect in the future will be just that: errors.
And with that, I consider this discussion over. Let's all please remember to play nice with one another.
Thanks. :)
You have obviously had offers to assist with the Japanese and the Chinese names. I believe I also saw at least one person speak up about German names.
I don't recall seeing any mention of the Arabic names. I am NOT a native speaker, but I was trained by the military as an Arabic linguist. It has been some time since I used the language, but I have all my books and whatnot and would be more than happy to help if needed.
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You have obviously had offers to assist with the Japanese and the Chinese names. I believe I also saw at least one person speak up about German names.
I don't recall seeing any mention of the Arabic names. I am NOT a native speaker, but I was trained by the military as an Arabic linguist. It has been some time since I used the language, but I have all my books and whatnot and would be more than happy to help if needed.
Assallamu alehkum!
English is really hard too... it is a very illogical and confusing language... I find German to be most logical, but even it can be confusing...
Yes, English is a particularly difficult langiage for making things clear-- almost as bad as French (which I find can be excruciatingly vague). German is indeed quite logical, but this sometimes does not allow for nuances that one would prefer not to spell out; and the various combinations of cases can become quite burdensome. Of course, English seems to be the "official" language of the Paizo boards, so for all its shortcomings, it will have to do.
But some comments from Nothern Europe...for most people, Finnish doesn't have recognizably iconic sound like Norwegian, German, French, Japanese etc. has so there hasn't been much problem with bastardization...
Except in the most iconic of Greyhawk personages: Mordenkainen himself (is that "Little Mordenka"?). In any event, his name is a blatant rip-off from the heroes in Elias Lonnrot's The Kalevala: Vainamoinen, Lemminkainen, et al. (Forgive the lack of umlauts, or whatever they're called in Finnish.) Amusingly, the Icelandic sagas always portray Lapps as the best wizards.
Lonnrot's work is also the reason that bards cast spells in D&D (I know that question came up on another thread)--the 1st ed. Bard was an attempt to make game rules for the heroes of the Kalevala, which Gygax loved. No culture is safe from RPGs!
This has certainly become an interesting discussion. Makes me wish I had stayed up throughout the night to join it.
As my background is studying English literature and knowing a little French (I was almost fluent in college, but have forgotten most of it), most of the languages we've spoken of are outside my realm of knowledge. As for the countries in question, while I have read a lot of history and had some study in various cultures, I have also seen a lot of movies coming from all over the world. (James, I loved House of Flying Daggers too; if you need help knocking down Nick, I'll be right there with you). I understand that when one sees a martial arts movie we are not necessarily getting a true reflection of culture.
But that's my point. I'm an American with certain romantic notions of Europe, Asia, the Middle East, even the history of America (Paul Bunyan rocks!) I understand these are romantic notions and take them for what they are worth. When I'm creating something fun in D&D, I want to use these notions as a source of inspiration. I don't want to let "authenticity" get in the way of my creativity.
Besides, what is authenticity? We all have our own perspective of reality. If I've learned nothing from studies of other cultures and religions, it's that we all have radically different understandings of the nature of reality. But now I'm getting philosophical.
D&D is a game and it's good times. It probably won't create world peace (although I love the fact that people from all over the world comment on this forum.)
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One of the advantages an individual DM has when creating a world or campaign is a knowlege of the interests and backgrounds of her players.
Some players want a detailed, quasi-historical campaign background. For those people, if you're going to have an ancient Roman-like culture, you'd better get the details right. (See the old Runequest Vikings and Japanese supplements, or the AD&D 2nd Ed. green-covered historical guides, ... )
Other players want fantasy, painted with broad strokes. Ice barbarians ought to evoke Norse culture, but the tribes might differ from their historical inspirations in either the details or even the fundamentals of the society, if that makes for a good story.
Now, personally, I'm fine with fantasy broad-stroke cultures in general, but I can get distracted and irritated if there's a culture presented in an adventure that's similar to one I've studied closely (say, Mayan-like, or medieval Turkish) that differs in some main aspects of its historical inspiration, for reasons I don't understand. My attitude is: if you're going off a real-world model, get it right, or have some clear reason to make it different.
(More accurately, my attitude is that history influences cultures. I objected to the old Bloodshadows game not because it got 1920's Chicago gang-land culture wrong, but because 1920's Chicago gang-land culture didn't make any sense in walled cities on a savage fantasy planet.)
Many fantasy worlds have Egyptian-esque areas, with animal-headed gods and mummies and deserts. If a DM knows how enthusiastic her players are with historical accuracy or Egyptian trivia, she can rewrite and tailor her campaign to satisfy them.
I appreciate the ideas that some cultures in Varisia are "gypsy-like" (but with goddess-favored throwing stars) or "Amerind-like" (but with magic tattoos) and that there's a "Nippon-like" culture (with similarly broad strokes) somewhere else.
I appreciate that the original poster likes fantasy cultures to adhere a little more closely to their historical models. He has never been arrogant or condescending, and he has continually indicated that our mileages may vary.
In fact, if there were a couple of threads suggesting how the other Pathfinder cultures could be more historically realized, I think that would be cool for those gaming groups which want more "historically Rom" / "historically plains Amerind" / etc. cultures.
What about Latvians, Lithuanians, and Estonians?
I don't know if your fiancee is really Japanese or if she's Hawaiian with a Japanese name, but if she's the first, you might ask her what she thinks of the names.She is not the least bit offended by the names. Neither are any of my Japanese friends (American-Japanese and Japanese born) and I have several.
Now you open another whole floodgate of problematic with the question is my wife "really Japanese," that's potentially very offensive. What do you mean by this? She is half-japanese ethnically. As to what it means to be Japanese, that is a whole other can of worms my friend. I'd be careful where you level loaded phraseology such as "really Japanese."
Are you really Japanese? Or are you potentially an oversensitive gaijin who sees offenses where none exist (I'm not saying you are this, but I've met a lot of people who fit this bill, and they always get their kimonos in a twist about topics like the one you have brought up).
I never assumed that your fiancee, or anybody, in fact, would be offended. I myself am not offended. I merely wanted to know what she thought of it, not whether or not it bothered her--those are the exact (and carefully chosen) words which I used. And what someone thinks of something can be any variety of things, which may or may not relate to whether or not they're offended. Perhaps she likes it? Perhaps she thinks it's silly? Perhaps cute? I was just curious.
And by "really Japanese", I meant is she a nihonkoku shimin? Has she lived the majority of her life in Japan? Because quite frankly, and with no disrespect intended, there is a world of difference, culturally speaking, between somebody born and raised in Japan, and somebody with Japanese heritage born and raised as an American citizen in Hawai'i. I meant no disrespect by the term. I intended to leave this discussion alone, but I wanted to come in and clear up any bad blood that may have resulted from that comment. I know a number of ethnically half-Japanese Hawai'ians, and most (but not all) of them cannot speak the language but for a smattering of terms. (By point of exception, my old boss at the acting studio in Tokyo I used to work at was Hawai'ian-born, and her Japanese was flawless except for a curious pidgin accent that I actually found quite charming.)
So when I said "really Japanese", I didn't mean to insinuate that your fiancee might be somehow "less than Japanese"; I just wondered whether she was commenting from the perspective of a Japanese citizen or an American citizen of Japanese descent. Again, I apologise for any perceived racism inherent in my careless use of the term.
I'll leave the rest of the discussion to the scholars. But Hill Giant and Azzy, I very much like your Ninja=Rogue/Samurai=Diplomatic Fighter way of looking at things.
Yikes!
As it may have bearing on my testimonials on these threads, I have to confess that I am a Canadian who lives in China, but has also lived in America for 3 years, Japan for 6 months, and Korea for a month.
Genetically I am 1/2 Latvian, 1/8 Irish, 1/8 German, and 1/4 Welsh, but I can't speak their languages, although the Irish sounds vaguely familiar.
Yikes!
As it may have bearing on my testimonials on these threads, I have to confess that I am a Canadian who lives in China, but has also lived in America for 3 years, Japan for 6 months, and Korea for a month.
Genetically I am 1/2 Latvian, 1/8 Irish, 1/8 German, and 1/4 Welsh, but I can't speak their languages, although the Irish sounds vaguely familiar.
Oh, where did you live in Japan?
uh, Tokyo mostly....
(as if that narrows it down)
My slumber in a cheap hotel in Meguro was punctuated by trips everywhere. I also holed up in a Ryokan near the Asaksa Kannon temple for a while but the ninjas found me... and then there was the home stay in Kobe, the city, not the basketball player.
Oh, where did you live in Japan?Yikes!
As it may have bearing on my testimonials on these threads, I have to confess that I am a Canadian who lives in China, but has also lived in America for 3 years, Japan for 6 months, and Korea for a month.
Genetically I am 1/2 Latvian, 1/8 Irish, 1/8 German, and 1/4 Welsh, but I can't speak their languages, although the Irish sounds vaguely familiar.
Takamori makes good points. There are many Chinese who live and were born in America...
Most Chinese do not see them as Chinese. Perhaps by blood yes, but they are American. Not Chinese.
This does not mean that they do not know their heritage a lot about China... but it does mean that they do not have the same perspective as a Chinese.
Takamori makes good points about it being the same for Japanese. Why would it be different for American or English?
I believe he is quite correct, as are you. I am half Latvian but I don't know squat about Latvia.
Do they consider me Latvian? It depends who they are and how much they like me, probably. If they want to prove a point about the uniqueness of cultural perspective I am sure they would kick me out of the club, but if I was buying drinks at the bar, I would probably be Latvian again.
What if he was actually Aragorn, son of Larry?
That would be really lame, wouldn't it?
I believe he is quite correct, as are you. I am half Latvian but I don't know squat about Latvia.
Do they consider me Latvian? It depends who they are and how much they like me, probably. If they want to prove a point about the uniqueness of cultural perspective I am sure they would kick me out of the club, but if I was buying drinks at the bar, I would probably be Latvian again.
Yes, buy drinks and make toasts, hand out american cigarets, you will be well liked!
uh, Tokyo mostly....
(as if that narrows it down)
My slumber in a cheap hotel in Meguro was punctuated by trips everywhere. I also holed up in a Ryokan near the Asaksa Kannon temple for a while but the ninjas found me... and then there was the home stay in Kobe, the city, not the basketball player.
Have you been to the Meguro Kiseichuukan? (The Meguro Parasitological Musem?) Wonderful place. There's a preserved dolphin brain with all sorts of tubers growing out of it and goodies like that. I'm very fond of Parasitology and it's a great museum if you're into that sort of thing.
I didn't know there were ninja in Asakusa...it's famous as a place where old ladies go, though I can certainly see how the distinction might have been puzzling.
And now the million-dollar question...did you eat the "Kobe Beef"?
Hmm, and in response to someone's earlier comment, no, "ninja" is not a loan word from Chinese. It's a Japanese word composed of the kanji for "shinobi" followed by the kanji for "person", and read using on-yomi, which, despite its frequent moniker as the "Chinese" reading, is as fully Japanese as kun-yomi, or the "Japanese" reading is. It's true that this "Chinese" reading takes a fair amount of phonetic influence from the Chinese language, but it is most assuredly Japanese. The kun-yomi equivalent of "ninja" would be "shinobi no mono".
hehe most of the Japanese I know; and that would be quite a few, dont think of the Japanese living in Tokyo as all that Japanese but as Americanized Japanese not much different than a Japanese/American born in America; not sure where I am going with this, but I considered it humorous and a bit ironic; hehe considering this thread.
hehe most of the Japanese I know; and that would be quite a few, dont think of the Japanese living in Tokyo as all that Japanese but as Americanized Japanese not much different than a Japanese/American born in America; not sure where I am going with this, but I considered it humorous and a bit ironic; hehe considering this thread.
It's true that people from Tokyo are thought of as rather cold.
I saw a TV program once in which they tested it and had an old woman drop a bushel of apples on a Tokyo street. Nobody stopped to help her or even gave her a second glance.
When she did the same thing in Aomori, about six or seven people rushed in from all directions to help her and see if she was all right.
ouch; that one came back and smacked me; are we Americans considered rather cold by the Japanese? Of the many Japanese I work with, I think the Japanese are probably the most polite people on the planet; and everyone who goes to Japan from our company, that I know of and they go there a lot, really, really like it; many of the occidentals here speak or are learning Japanese.
hehe guess I will take my cold self back to lerking :)
ouch; that one came back and smacked me; are we Americans considered rather cold by the Japanese? Of the many Japanese I work with, I think the Japanese are probably the most polite people on the planet; and everyone who goes to Japan from our company, that I know of and they go there a lot, really, really like it; many of the occidentals here speak or are learning Japanese.
hehe guess I will take my cold self back to lerking :)
Oh, I didn't mean Americans were cold, but as far as generalisations about people from Tokyo go, the biggest one is probably that "Tokyo-jin ha tsumetai"--they're a bit chilly.
Nice quote from Analects, Nick! One of my very favorites.
(Analects is the work attributed to Confucius, but really is a collection of his sayings and deeds written down by his disciples).
For "samurai"--how about "shi"? It is a Chinese word (originally), pronounced like "sure" in Chinese or like "she" in Japanese. It translates best as "knight"--it denotes noble ancestry but not high nobility, some degree of martial skill, but also a measure of education in courtly arts like poetry, ritual, and so forth. The term was often used (I believe) as an alternative for "samurai" in Tokugawa Japan. In recent Chinese history the term came to have a less "martial" and more "scholarly" connotation. So, you get some kind of Asian flavor, but none of the English-language cultural baggage associated with the term "samurai."
And, Nick--my chat about "authenticity" was at some level a confession of my tendencies toward orientalism. In my homebrew, though, I mix and match with the best of them. One of my favorite places is Hattaan Mor, a silk-road oasis that is one of the world's great metropoli and is a place for dwarves to rub elbows with people inspired by the Tibetans and gnomes to put on fireworks displays for the local people (somewhat modeled on Uzbeks or Uighurs without Islam). The de facto ruler is a drow "empress dowager." And my pseudo-European state has a tributary system modeled on China and a "hostage" system for keeping nobles in check that is borrowed from Tokugawa Japan. These things all sound crazy in brief description, but I've worked them out so that they make sense in my mind. So yeah, I don't worry too much about historical authenticity. I run a fairly low-magic campaign, so I don't know about Asian D&D on crack, but my son has found it entertaining so far, at least.
some of the peeps here, heeh refer to those from Tokyo as uhm, assertive hehe as it seems most Japanese from Japan proper working here in the US find it difficult to be as forward and arguementative about things like bills and payments and things and like to have those from Toyko do that sort of thing for them; I help with some English grammar and words now and again and explain some of our cultural anomolies. On our company website there are a few blogs from Japanese coworkers about things they noticed different between the two countries and stuff like that; I find them very interesting and anyone who goes to Japan, which happens all the time, brings back little care packages for everyone.
oh--one more comment, about the parodied version of Americans and our beloved Presidente.
I recently saw an Indian street theatre group do a skit about Bush's latest visit to India and all the things that US pressure is causing the Indian government to do. It included an absolutely hilarious parody of Bush (and American cultural generally). I just about died laughing. If we can't laugh at ourselves, then we take ourselves way too seriously.
Eg. finding Mielikki and Loviatar in Forgotten Realms is fun,
Does it bother you that in FR Ilmatar is male?
RE: Hero. That was the movie that made me realize that Chinese Kungfu Movies are just like American Musicals, but instead of singing, they fight.
some of the peeps here, heeh refer to those from Tokyo as uhm, assertive hehe as it seems most Japanese from Japan proper working here in the US find it difficult to be as forward and arguementative about things like bills and payments and things and like to have those from Toyko do that sort of thing for them; I help with some English grammar and words now and again and explain some of our cultural anomolies. On our company website there are a few blogs from Japanese coworkers about things they noticed different between the two countries and stuff like that; I find them very interesting and anyone who goes to Japan, which happens all the time, brings back little care packages for everyone.
People from Osaka are generally said to be the forward and argumentative ones...that's interesting to hear.
RE: Hero. That was the movie that made me realize that Chinese Kungfu Movies are just like American Musicals, but instead of singing, they fight.
It's interesting that you say that...I've acted in a few musicals and I like kung fu movies, and I've always kind of felt the same way. It's interesting how in a musical, characters will suddenly just break out into song, breaking the rules of reality, that lasts 4-5 minutes, much like a kung fu movie, in which characters will suddenly break out into a fight, that usually breaks the rules of reality and that lasts 4-5 minutes!
With all the ethnic chat and talk of coldness, I just want to say that the nicest and warmest people I have met as a traveler were Chinese farmers.
It's interesting to me that the poorest people I've rubbed shoulders with were also the nicest.
Yup. Of course there are also some really poor a~%#+$&s out there, too.
Yup. Of course there are also some really poor a#~@!%*s out there, too.
Yup. I've met some poor folks who would happily stab you for a nickel. And some rich folks who'd kill you for half of that. And a lot of both sorts are so nice on the surface you never know their true colors until one day their interests no longer align with yours.
On the flip side, I've met some extremely sinister-seeming people who would do anything for you, even when the chips are down and it's against their better interests to be of help. Sometimes you can never tell.
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Except in the most iconic of Greyhawk personages: Mordenkainen himself (is that "Little Mordenka"?). In any event, his name is a blatant rip-off from the heroes in Elias Lonnrot's The Kalevala: Vainamoinen, Lemminkainen, et al. (Forgive the lack of umlauts, or whatever they're called in Finnish.) Amusingly, the Icelandic sagas always portray Lapps as the best wizards.
Hmm, funny, I never actually thought about Mordenkainen but now that you mention it...
Suffix -nen has two meanings, it can be diminutive ("Little Mordenka") but in names it usually means connection or relation ("person connected to Mordenka") and is very common ending in Finnish surnames For example people living on an island, "saari", might be called Saarinen (yes, architects and designers Eliel and Eero Saarinen were Finnish). Similarly, it has been suggested that name Lemminkäinen might come from word "fliminga", meaning that he was of Flamish origin...and while powerful and brave, he was also rather stupid and poorly-mannered as befits a foreigner :)Now, does GH lore ever tell what is Mordenka?
Finns did enjoy reputation of being powerful wizards, but Lapps were known to be the most powerful. And indeed, when you look at myths like those collected in Kalevala, pretty much everyone knew at least some spells, all the characters were single- or multiclassed bards.
It might also be influence to magic system based on spell memorization, as Finnish magic was word magic, knowing the powerful words and names gave you magic...and indeed there are passages in Kalevala which read like "hunt for long-lost spellbook" adventures...
Estonians also share good number of our myths though from what I have read they have good amount of stories about giants and werewolves too (which don't feature that strongly in Finnish mythology).
I suppose chiming in here at this point with "this isn't Earth, remember?" would not be terribly productive? Somebody grok the idea of "Fantasy"?Again, though it isn't Earth, it is drawing on Earth cultures for its inspiration. It is not an alien world.
And I'm glad to see what a...civilised...place the messageboards here are, drjones.
make a world of your own completely spawned without any trappings of our own reality and then tell us how you go. honestly,if the fantasy genre was entirely made up of things that are not similar to our own world, or even have elements of it, then it'd probably be about as interesting to the lay-man as reading a physics theory textbook.
so in other words, im sad to say, about 90% of all gaming products will have to be modified to your tastes by you. the world rarely changes for one person, and in this case it likely isnt going to happen.
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I suppose chiming in here at this point with "this isn't Earth, remember?" would not be terribly productive? Somebody grok the idea of "Fantasy"?Again, though it isn't Earth, it is drawing on Earth cultures for its inspiration. It is not an alien world.
And I'm glad to see what a...civilised...place the messageboards here are, drjones.
make a world of your own completely spawned without any trappings of our own reality and then tell us how you go. honestly,if the fantasy genre was entirely made up of things that are not similar to our own world, or even have elements of it, then it'd probably be about as interesting to the lay-man as reading a physics theory textbook.
so in other words, im sad to say, about 90% of all gaming products will have to be modified to your tastes by you. the world rarely changes for one person, and in this case it likely isnt going to happen.
... Dude, the war's over.
Dammit, I'm kind of offended that Latvians are getting left out. Come on, us and the Lithuanians are some of the oldest civilizations in Europe, and we have cool names like Tigris, Tanis, Karlis (that's mine) and all kinds of stuff thats ends with -ieks and -is.
I feel so dejected. Someone please bastardize my parent culture so I can feel important.
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Dammit, I'm kind of offended that Latvians are getting left out. Come on, us and the Lithuanians are some of the oldest civilizations in Europe, and we have cool names like Tigris, Tanis, Karlis (that's mine) and all kinds of stuff thats ends with -ieks and -is.
I feel so dejected. Someone please bastardize my parent culture so I can feel important.
And you have Dr. Doom, too.
... Dude, the war's over.
well dont i just feel like Mr. Bush Jnr?