I'm moving and I can only take 10 D&D Rulesbooks...what do I take?


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Liberty's Edge

OK, here's the question: I'm moving to Korea in three days, the packers are coming in the morning. It turns out my apartment is going to be pretty small, so I've last-minute decided to limit myself to 10 or less D&D gamebooks. If you really believe you'd want more than 10, then list them. The Core books are a given...so what should the other seven be? I have virtually every 3.0 and 3.5 book, so have at it! And thanks for your input!


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Andrew Turner wrote:

OK, here's the question: I'm moving to Korea in three days, the packers are coming in the morning. It turns out my apartment is going to be pretty small, so I've last-minute decided to limit myself to 10 or less D&D gamebooks. If you really believe you'd want more than 10, then list them. The Core books are a given...so what should the other seven be? I have virtually every 3.0 and 3.5 book, so have at it! And thanks for your input!

Complete Arcane

Complete Adventurer
Complete Warrior
Complete Divine
Players' Handbook 2
Spell Compendium
Magic Item Compendium

Those are my picks. With those plus core you've got plenty of options without going overboard. Now, if I could add a few more I'd suggest:

Tome of Magic (because magic users who are not mainstream are kinda mysterious and cool. Plus there is some great artwork in this book).

Unearthed Arcana, simply because it is like a brainstorm of variant options, and I like things like the Cloistered Cleric.

Book of Exalted Deeds and Book of Vile Darkness, just because I like my Lights really Light and my Darks REALLY Dark.

The three more recent complete books, if only for the alternate class features and feats.

Dungeonscape, just because I like the concept of the Factotum and would love to see one in play.

All of that being said, really the only extra ones I would push for would be Unearthed Arcana and BoED. (And I might photocopy the alternate class features and feats from the 3 newer complete books).


......

You're abandoning your library? Egads, man. What's /wrong/ with you?! ;)

Ditto above, and I'd add heroes of horror and possibly heroes of battle.

Liberty's Edge

Just take the three core and leave room on your new bookshelf for 4th Edition.

In more seriousness, you normally DM more than play right? Got any campaign setting or Monster Manual type books? Those might be handy.

Paizo Employee Managing Developer

Bring 'em all and make furniture out of the ones you don't use much.

Get a scanner and take those little ones and zeroes with you. For where ever you're leaving get a climate controlled storage unit. (Or friend's house)

But seriously:

PHB
DMG
MM
MM3
CA
CAd
CW
CD
DrC
SC

Maybe swap out whichever "Complete" book you personally don't use/like and bring the PHB2. Yeah, do that.

Liberty's Edge

Yeah, I DM; I haven't played more than twice in the last five years. I can't get my list under 20, because I want all my MMs and ...

Here's my 20-Can't-Do-Without:

Core Books
DMG2
MM2-5 (I like the templates in 4)
FF
FC1 & 2
ToM
SC
MIC
BoED
BoVD
LM
HoH
ECS
FRCS

...I figure I can make it without my FR and Eberron supplements, but I don't want to. I want CM, CA and CD; I want LM and... suddenly I'm back to four trunks.

I love the super bad guys I cobble out of CA, CD, CM and BoVD, but I want to be sure to take a campaign setting in case all I find are FR nuts.


~gives an amused look~ You do have my pity. Will you be back or is everything lost for good? All I can say is good luck! I doubt I could get my list under 30 books, not including all the Dungeon and Dragon mags I would want.

RPG Superstar 2009 Top 8

It hurts me to choose which to leave behind. I would say leave behind DMG2, FC1 & 2, ToM, BED, HoH.

What does the second FF stand for? The first one I assume is Fiend Folio, but I can’t figure out what the second might be.

I am a little afraid of the day I have to move my books since when I take all of them to games they fill one of my luggage bags.

Liberty's Edge

Sharoth wrote:
~gives an amused look~ You do have my pity. Will you be back or is everything lost for good? All I can say is good luck! I doubt I could get my list under 30 books, not including all the Dungeon and Dragon mags I would want.

Oh, don't even get me started with magazines!

Yeah, It's only a year, though I'm considering volunteering for two years. My daughter can go to the school on base or at the Embassy, and my wife's Korean, so it's a piece of kimche, er, cake for her, and it's another $450 a month voluntary extension bonus! At any rate, it's a weight restricted location, so I can only take three thousand pounds. I can get by with very little, and my wife is excited to buy new stuff, but my daughter is three and attached to everything in her room, to include her six hundred pounds of books! 3K sounds like a lot, but it disappears fast! I've got a house sitter moving in tomorrow night (think, The Shining, "Gotta keep that boiler running in the winter, ayah, gotta keep it at just the right temperature or it's KABLOOIE!!"), so he can keep my library company, but I will miss whatever I don't take :-(


nothing throw it all away, wait for 4e and give wotc your money again!

Liberty's Edge

Zynete wrote:

It hurts me to choose which to leave behind. I would say leave behind DMG2, FC1 & 2, ToM, BED, HoH.

What does the second FF stand for? The first one I assume is Fiend Folio, but I can’t figure out what the second might be.

Hey! I listed it twice! That means I can add another book! Which one, which one...

Liberty's Edge

Tobus Neth wrote:
nothing throw it all away, wait for 4e and give wotc your money again!

Well, even if you don't use all the books, and regardless of what edition you play, the art and maps and fluff blurbs in the 3.5 books are great inspiration.

Liberty's Edge

I hear that art, maps and fluff from previous editions will be completely incompatible with 4E...

Maybe you could leave MM2 off your list - I never seem to have gotten a whole lot of use out of that one (partly because I'm lazy when it comes to updating to 3.5).


PACKERS! WOOOO!!!!! PACKERS!!!!
(appoligies)

Don't forget, Pathfinder is coming. Will you have access to a computer? You could always cut weight with a few .pdf's of the lesser choices.

Liberty's Edge

mwbeeler wrote:

PACKERS! WOOOO!!!!! PACKERS!!!!

(appoligies)

Don't forget, Pathfinder is coming. Will you have access to a computer? You could always cut weight with a few .pdf's of the lesser choices.

Korea is one giant wireless broadband network! Technologically speaking, it's literally right beside japan, in both respects, ha, ha. Yes, #2, also. My Mac is loaded with pdfs! The bad thing about 3.5 pdfs is that they cost almost the same as the physical book (drivethrurpg.com).


Andrew Turner wrote:

I'm moving and I can only take 10 D&D Rulesbooks...

Well, since you can 'take 10' and have more than two minutes to spare... go ahead and 'take 20'!

Sorry, that's probably not very helpful, but the lists above seem to have it covered.

Good luck!


Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

What about buying some of the PDFs of the ones You don't actually need at the table but don't want to leave behind?

i.e. It sounds like You use the BoVD as a BBEG Cookbook but You aren't likely to need to generate new arch villians on-the-fly at the table right? Same thing with the MM's if You prepare encounters in advance. Similarly, as an experienced DM You might not even need more than just the SRD handy for spells, magic items and treasure tables which would eliminate the Core3 also...

EDIT: Oops, just saw Your post about PDF costs.

Liberty's Edge

Laithoron wrote:

What about buying some of the PDFs of the ones You don't actually need at the table but don't want to leave behind?

i.e. It sounds like You use the BoVD as a BBEG Cookbook but You aren't likely to need to generate new arch villians on-the-fly at the table right? Same thing with the MM's if You prepare encounters in advance. Similarly, as an experienced DM You might not even need more than just the SRD handy for spells, magic items and treasure tables which would eliminate the Core3 also...

EDIT: Oops, just saw Your post about PDF costs.

Those specific examples are pretty good points in favor of the PDFs...While I've spent hours with BoVD and BoED and the MMs, they rarely make an appearance at the table. Thanks.


Ask yourself this...

1. What type of campaigns are you going to run?
2. Are you going to be doing the Pathfinder / Gamemastery campaigns exclusively?
3. If not, what whould you need to keep for 6 players occupied for a year?
4. If this is NOT for the player alone, what do YOU need to keep yourself occupied?
5. What can you get over there?


~wistles~ Damn! The PDF's are just as expensive as the hard copies.


Expanded Psionics Handbook
Player's Handbook 2
Spell Compendium
Magic Item Compendium
Complete Book of Eldritch Might
Tome of Horrors
Dragon Compendium Volume 1


actually, leave those basic books home.
The SRD is easily available and downloadable... no point in dragging those books with you ;)

Dark Archive

If I had to pick 7 books besides the core 3, I would be looking at those books that gave me the most bang for buck so to speak. So my list just off the top of my head would go...

Spell Compendium
Magic Item Compendium
Rules Compendium (yeah yeah I know it isn't out, but it will be in a few more months)

After those 3, I would take as many of the Complete Series as you can if you are going to be primarily playing, or as many of the Monster Manual/Monster Ecology type books that you can if you are primarily DMing. All that said, if you want the best of both worlds, bring an AP to run while you are gone as it will take about a year, and 12 magazines don't weigh that much. Then you can focus on the Complete Books and such instead of monster books as everything you need to run the AP's is in the adventures.

Hope that helps. Personally, I don't think I could limit it down to 10 books or even 30. My D&D collection is my primary form of entertainment and in truth my one indulgence. Best of luck overseas!!!

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

XPH
PHB2
MM3
Tome of Horrors (Better still, get the revised PDF)
Spell Compendium
Eberron Core or FR Core
Bo9S Or Complete X of choice

Liberty's Edge

Matthew Morris wrote:

XPH

PHB2
MM3
Tome of Horrors (Better still, get the revised PDF)
Spell Compendium
Eberron Core or FR Core
Bo9S Or Complete X of choice

That's a good list.

Liberty's Edge

Actually, these are all good suggestions. I suppose I would leave behind the Complete books, because I think they're the least helpful for straight DMing...then again, they may be helpful for players who didn't bring their books overseas.

The Exchange

Maybe you should reconsider your criteria. Bring only books for the players. Assume you will be re-kindling their spirit in gaming or they have never gamed. So bring the Complete series and Compendiums. Don't even bring your Core Rules.

Assume you and the players will use the SRD. I would assume you would use digital and you will need books to support your players. Although it is not perfect, I use DM Genie and then import the books into DM Genie. You need the original book to get the password, which I think you have. It is not perfect because you have to have to wait for others to input the data into DM Genie. But for the $30 it costs for DMGenie (or some similar product) you get access to most of your library.

And subscribe to Pathfinder so you get digital adventures. Your weight restrictions apply on the way home also! Send your Pathfinder hardcopy to your home of record. (I am old Army. I spent 18 months in Korea.)

Liberty's Edge

Duncan Clyborne wrote:

Maybe you should reconsider your criteria. Bring only books for the players. Assume you will be re-kindling their spirit in gaming or they have never gamed. So bring the Complete series and Compendiums. Don't even bring your Core Rules.

Assume you and the players will use the SRD. I would assume you would use digital and you will need books to support your players. Although it is not perfect, I use DM Genie and then import the books into DM Genie. You need the original book to get the password, which I think you have. It is not perfect because you have to have to wait for others to input the data into DM Genie. But for the $30 it costs for DMGenie (or some similar product) you get access to most of your library.

And subscribe to Pathfinder so you get digital adventures. Your weight restrictions apply on the way home also! Send your Pathfinder hardcopy to your home of record. (I am old Army. I spent 18 months in Korea.)

Wow! A reverse of my natural thinking, but a great suggestion! I think I know the Dming, but especally for new players or lapsed players, the other books would be most helpful. Digital Pathfinder and GameMastery are huge boons, too. DM Genie support for Mac?

Scarab Sages

Andrew Turner wrote:
OK, here's the question: I'm moving to Korea in three days, the packers are coming in the morning. It turns out my apartment is going to be pretty small, so I've last-minute decided to limit myself to 10 or less D&D gamebooks. If you really believe you'd want more than 10, then list them. The Core books are a given...so what should the other seven be? I have virtually every 3.0 and 3.5 book, so have at it! And thanks for your input!

DooD!!!

Clothes are over-rated, leave some of your clothes and take all your books.

Life is too short, Play Naked!!

Liberty's Edge

Temmogen wrote:
Andrew Turner wrote:
OK, here's the question: I'm moving to Korea in three days, the packers are coming in the morning. It turns out my apartment is going to be pretty small, so I've last-minute decided to limit myself to 10 or less D&D gamebooks. If you really believe you'd want more than 10, then list them. The Core books are a given...so what should the other seven be? I have virtually every 3.0 and 3.5 book, so have at it! And thanks for your input!

DooD!!!

Clothes are over-rated, leave some of your clothes and take all your books.

Life is too short, Play Naked!!

Thanks! to everyone who responded to my plea for advice!

In the end, I did, indeed, decide to leave about two hundred pounds of military gear I've collected over ten years (and will get reissued in Korea anyway) and half the civilian clothes I planned on taking, which allowed me to take ALL MY BOOKS, even the CoC books!

A cool thing about this thread--by limiting the number of books to be listed, I think we see a general picture of what, as gamers, we see as the most important of the supplements! Interesting, and thanks again, to everyone! My books are packed, wrapped and crated. They board the Slow Boat out of Anchorage to the Far East tomorrow!


Well, too late to influence your selections, but I like having the core books hardcopy available, and that is especially true if you're trying to recruit/train new gamers. Much more enjoyable to page through the books with their artwork than to wade through SRD online if you're new to the game. And I've gotten to the point where I can find just about anything in the books as fast as you can look it up online.

Otherwise, enjoy Korea. It sounds like you may have done a tour there before, but if you haven't, make sure to see Kyongju (the capital of the ancient Korean state of Silla) when you're there. It's a bit far if you're stationed at Seoul or Osan, but not too far from Pusan or Chinhae. Korea's a great place, and I'd love to have done a two-year tour there.

Good luck shipping your collection home again if it grows. (You'll undoubtedly collect a lot of knick-knacks and memorabilia too--or your wife and daughter will). Surface mail shipping of books is usually not inordinately expensive--I shipped six 50 pound boxes of books home from China about 5 years ago for about $300. Of course if you wait two years you can just leave your collection with your mates there and come back and buy 4e stuff. ;)

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Companion Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber
Andrew Turner wrote:

Thanks! to everyone who responded to my plea for advice!

In the end, I did, indeed, decide to leave about two hundred pounds of military gear I've collected over ten years (and will get reissued in Korea anyway) and half the civilian clothes I planned on taking, which allowed me to take ALL MY BOOKS, even the CoC books!

A cool thing about this thread--by limiting the number of books to be listed, I think we see a general picture of what, as gamers, we see as the most important of the supplements! Interesting, and thanks again, to everyone! My books are packed, wrapped and crated. They board the Slow Boat out of Anchorage to the Far East tomorrow!

Good luck over there man :)

Scarab Sages

Take the big 3 and pdf the rest. Yes, it would take a bit of time and effort, but i would simply copy all the material and put it on your laptop or simply email it to yourself for later use. This way you can bring all your items with you.

Thoth-Amon

Liberty's Edge

Paizo Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Companion, Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber
Andrew Turner wrote:

OK, here's the question: I'm moving to Korea in three days, the packers are coming in the morning. It turns out my apartment is going to be pretty small, so I've last-minute decided to limit myself to 10 or less D&D gamebooks. If you really believe you'd want more than 10, then list them. The Core books are a given...so what should the other seven be? I have virtually every 3.0 and 3.5 book, so have at it! And thanks for your input!

Thats funny... When I moved to Turkey.. and knew I was going to be in a small Dorm room.. I thought...hmm... Should I leave my thousands of RPG books in storage?.. I only have a 500 pound weight limit...hmm.. nah... nah that many books can't way that much...

Ended up I was 500 pounds over my weight limit.. and still waiting to be charged for that... My dorm room was.. Bed... Computer desk..Surrounded by Books and Books everywhere!!! Was not easy getting around :-p

Scarab Sages

Dragnmoon wrote:
Andrew Turner wrote:

OK, here's the question: I'm moving to Korea in three days, the packers are coming in the morning. It turns out my apartment is going to be pretty small, so I've last-minute decided to limit myself to 10 or less D&D gamebooks. If you really believe you'd want more than 10, then list them. The Core books are a given...so what should the other seven be? I have virtually every 3.0 and 3.5 book, so have at it! And thanks for your input!

Thats funny... When I moved to Turkey.. and knew I was going to be in a small Dorm room.. I thought...hmm... Should I leave my thousands of RPG books in storage?.. I only have a 500 pound weight limit...hmm.. nah... nah that many books can't way that much...

Ended up I was 500 pounds over my weight limit.. and still waiting to be charged for that... My dorm room was.. Bed... Computer desk..Surrounded by Books and Books everywhere!!! Was not easy getting around :-p

Sounds like an incredibly cool room.

Thoth-Amon

Liberty's Edge

Paizo Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Companion, Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber
Thoth-Amon the Mindflayerian wrote:


Sounds like an incredibly cool room.

Thoth-Amon

Oh it was..... But my First Sergeant Did not think so.. :-(..

Paizo Employee Sales Associate

Andrew Turner wrote:

OK, here's the question: I'm moving to Korea in three days...

So have you recieved your W1, yet? It looks like it shipped on 8/2 so you should have it by now, but I want to make sure you've gotten it before I let you go. It looks like that was the last shipment to go out to your old address.

Spoiler:
That's right... before I let you go. When I'm not running Customer Service for Paizo, I am a member of the oligarchy that actually controls the US Executive branch, as well as the US Military/Industrial Complex.

Of course... now that you've opened this spoiler, you have been marked for termination. Sorry 'bout that.

Liberty's Edge

Cosmo wrote:
Andrew Turner wrote:

OK, here's the question: I'm moving to Korea in three days...

So have you recieved your W1, yet? It looks like it shipped on 8/2 so you should have it by now, but I want to make sure you've gotten it before I let you go. It looks like that was the last shipment to go out to your old address.

** spoiler omitted **

Spoiler: Ha, Ha!

Actually, I haven't received W1 yet, but mail to Fairbanks is very slllllloooooowwwwwwwwww...

I just got Dungeon 150 (*sniff, sniff, sob*) today, so it may be a while yet before W1 makes it. My Housesitter is on the lookout for various and sundry that didn't make the change-of-address cutoff. Thanks! the traditional Paizo-Concern is appreciated, and at least half of what keeps me coming back for more (the other half of course, being the superior-quality products)! :D

Liberty's Edge

I should have asked if you noticed the 8th name on the list, reference the spoiler...

Liberty's Edge

Cosmo wrote:
Andrew Turner wrote:

OK, here's the question: I'm moving to Korea in three days...

So have you recieved your W1, yet? It looks like it shipped on 8/2 so you should have it by now, but I want to make sure you've gotten it before I let you go. It looks like that was the last shipment to go out to your old address.

** spoiler omitted **

W1 was sent to Korea, and I have it now. These are the absolute highest quality products of their type I have ever seen! Just amazing!


The DM Guide, 4 Monster Manuals, and five copies of the Player's Handbook! It's really all you need.

Ultradan

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