Sarenrae's Holy Symbol


Lost Omens Campaign Setting General Discussion


Is the angel shown in the Player's Guide her holy symbol? (I assume that it is)

If this is the case, who's symbol was illustrated in the Ye Gods! blog entry on 4/26? She's called the Dawnflower, so I had assumed the silver pointed star thing was hers. (But according to the Player's guide, I was wrong)

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blackotter wrote:
...who's symbol was illustrated in the Ye Gods! blog entry on 4/26?

I think that's also Sarenrae's holy symbol since they reused that particular graphic for Kyra's pregen character sheet before they had any art for her. There's nothing that says there can't be multiple and slightly different holy symbols for the gods anyway. The multiple names they go by, for instance, is a fair indicator that there's more than one way to revere them. In this instance, the shining sun is the motif that's the most important. The "star" you're referring to looks more like a sun to me. And, even the angel's wings and upstretched arms are forming a sun-like circle.

So, they're both good.

My two-cents,
--Neil


Yeah, that's the route I was going to go. My player has already printed out a version of the silver one to wear during game, so Im loath to change it on him.

Besides, it seems there are two factions in the church, one for the scimitar wielding dancers and one for the redeemers, so the two symbols make sense.

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The angel-ankh is Sarenrae's symbol. The other one from "Ye Gods" was a generic holy symbol from an item card set; we didn't have final art for Sarenrae's symble yet.

Feel free to use the generic item card symbol, of course, but it's not really associated with Sarenrae's faith (or anyone else's faith in Golarion, for that matter).


Thanks for the reply James. I'll leave it up to my player, if he likes the silver one, Ill make it for the redeemer sect, which he's a part of.

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Just a quick question - I don't want to bother anyone in customer service with it.

Did you guys buy the Player's Guide separately? I'm a charter subscriber and haven't been given the opportunity to download it yet. So far the only downloads I've been offered are my GameMastery ones.

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DeadDMWalking wrote:

Just a quick question - I don't want to bother anyone in customer service with it.

Did you guys buy the Player's Guide separately? I'm a charter subscriber and haven't been given the opportunity to download it yet. So far the only downloads I've been offered are my GameMastery ones.

It's a free download. You can get it here on the product page. The charter subs get a free print edition.

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James Jacobs wrote:

The angel-ankh is Sarenrae's symbol. The other one from "Ye Gods" was a generic holy symbol from an item card set; we didn't have final art for Sarenrae's symble yet.

Feel free to use the generic item card symbol, of course, but it's not really associated with Sarenrae's faith (or anyone else's faith in Golarion, for that matter).

James, Is there any chance that future Item Card sets (possibly the Runelords set coming out in November) will have Holy Symbols for the Pathfinder Chronicles deities?

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Ungoded wrote:
James, Is there any chance that future Item Card sets (possibly the Runelords set coming out in November) will have Holy Symbols for the Pathfinder Chronicles deities?

Being one of the guys who works on the Item Cards, I can field that one for you.

I think it likely that we will do holy symbols of our deities at some point. No telling when, though.

(And yeah, I'll make sure Bulmahn sees this.)

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Ungoded wrote:
James, Is there any chance that future Item Card sets (possibly the Runelords set coming out in November) will have Holy Symbols for the Pathfinder Chronicles deities?

Yes there is. I suspect that any future holy symbols that appear as Item Cards will be those of Pathfinder deities. And you can probably expect to see those symbols showing up on magic items now and then too, probably.

The Rise of the Runelords item card set, for example, will have two new holy symbols for two of the gods in our world.

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Mike McArtor wrote:
Ungoded wrote:
James, Is there any chance that future Item Card sets (possibly the Runelords set coming out in November) will have Holy Symbols for the Pathfinder Chronicles deities?

Being one of the guys who works on the Item Cards, I can field that one for you.

I think it likely that we will do holy symbols of our deities at some point. No telling when, though.

(And yeah, I'll make sure Bulmahn sees this.)

James Jacobs wrote:

Yes there is. I suspect that any future holy symbols that appear as Item Cards will be those of Pathfinder deities. And you can probably expect to see those symbols showing up on magic items now and then too, probably.

The Rise of the Runelords item card set, for example, will have two new holy symbols for two of the gods in our world.

Awesome. Can you tell us which two deities, or is that still a secret?

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Ungoded wrote:
Can you tell us which two deities, or is that still a secret?

Just a guess: Desna and Lamashtu.

Scarab Sages

James Jacobs wrote:
Yes there is. I suspect that any future holy symbols that appear as Item Cards will be those of Pathfinder deities. And you can probably expect to see those symbols showing up on magic items now and then too, probably. The Rise of the Runelords item card set, for example, will have two new holy symbols for two of the gods in our world.

The fact that the Greyhawk Deities from the PHB are not Open Content, but WOTC properties, mean any third party publisher would be wise to invent their own cosmology and avoid any imagery that could be construed as copying.

On that note, have previous Item Cards used the GH imagery, and if so, will that now be a problem (requiring stock on hand to be pulped, etc)?

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EP Healy wrote:
Ungoded wrote:
Can you tell us which two deities, or is that still a secret?
Just a guess: Desna and Lamashtu.

That's an excellent guess!

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Snorter wrote:
On that note, have previous Item Cards used the GH imagery, and if so, will that now be a problem (requiring stock on hand to be pulped, etc)?

Nope; we were very careful not to use any WotC stuff on the item cards or anything in the GameMastery line. Which is why you didn't see a Savage Tide Item Card set, by the way...


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