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In response to a summons much earlier in this thread, and as a mentally retarded, half-blind, turpentine-drinking, illiterate gamer-hating-Christian-out-of-a-Tom-Hanks-movie, I agree with the original poster. Just because the rest of you can read above a first grade level doesn't mean everyone that sees the magazine can.
People like us only get to post on the internet for a few minutes at a time before the drool causes the keyboard to malfunction and the smell of the filth in which we sit becomes overwhelming. You should respect the fact that the original poster overcame both his educational failings and imbecility long enough to string semi-coherent sentences together and express an opinion on anything. The hardest decision guys like us make every day is whether to work on our tinfoil hats to protect us from orbital mind lasers or stand on the street corner to warn people about the wrong they gone and done.
Waitaminute...wasn't I the guy that threw a hissy fit about that Graymalkin Adventure being linked to the X-men...

The Jade |

Brilliant, Cap. You've offered a scenario which leads me to an idea that settles the matter entirely. Even for the pathologically stubborn. One can only get confused by "2 issues left" if one already owns the magazine before reading the cover. If it's on the shelf, and you're thinking of buying it, "2 issues left" much more clearly means that it's the second to last issue, yes?

The Jade |

In response to a summons much earlier...
Read it aloud. Made a roomful of people double over. Red faced laughter all around. That was too much. Your seething despite is like some kind of curmudgeonly ambrosia.
And I was right there with you on the X-Men thing until the author himself showed to ask, "What's X-men."

tdewitt274 |

Brilliant, Cap. You've offered a scenario which leads me to an idea that settles the matter entirely. Even for the pathologically stubborn. One can only get confused by "2 issues left" if one already owns the magazine before reading the cover. If it's on the shelf, and you're thinking of buying it, "2 issues left" much more clearly means that it's the second to last issue, yes?
So, what you're saying is that the people with subscriptions should be the ones ofended by this, as we've already purchased the magazine and, in fact, own it. Therefore, there is only, truely, one more issue left to own...
Dang! He was right all along!
OK, I'm joking. Please don't beat me. :X

bubbagump |

So let me get this straight: some poor slob is minding his own business when he sees this magazine and gets caught by a few lines on the cover. He misunderstands "penultimate" and thinks, "Oh, how wonderful! There are two issues after this one! I think I'll buy this issue so I can count the remaining issues! What fun!"
The poor slob then waits a month and purchases what he thinks is the next-to-the-last issue. "Whee!" he thinks. "Next month there will be another issue, and then I'll have three!"
Again he waits a month. And another month. And another month. And it doesn't come. If he were a subscriber, he'd be getting a check about now. If he's not a subscriber, he's out...nothing.
Wow, you folks at Paizo really are evil! You've perpetrated a heartless trick on this poor fellow, and he'll probably spend the rest of his life waiting for that last issue (which he hasn't paid for yet).
Just think how mad he'll be when, decades later, he discovers #360 advertised on the WotC boards as a back issue.
Gee, in all the years I've followed the teachings of Demogorgon I've never seen such a diabolical trick. Congratulations!

tdewitt274 |

You know, the last issue should be Dragon's and Dungeon's "Black Album"
Just the name on a black background...

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You know, the last issue should be Dragon's and Dungeon's "Black Album"
Just the name on a black background...
The last cover should be black with thousands of occult symbols and line drawings of cavorting demons...just for my letter carrier >:}

The Jade |

So, what you're saying is that the people with subscriptions should be the ones ofended by this, as we've already purchased the magazine and, in fact, own it. Therefore, there is only, truely, one more issue left to own...
Dang! He was right all along!
OK, I'm joking. Please don't beat me. :X
That's exactly what I'm saying. It's us subscribers who are getting shafted by the conventions of the english language and now that I've complained at englishlanguage.com I'm back to say that these english users at Paizo should be slathered in a bucketfull of white-knuckled terror gravy. That's right... I'm saying they should be all be duct taped to a big kitty-peed couch and forced to watch a Lost in Space marathon in slo-mo/remixed for deepest bass frequency.

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tdewitt274 wrote:That's exactly what I'm saying. It's us subscribers who are getting shafted by the conventions of the english language and now that I've complained at englishlanguage.com I'm back to say that these english users at Paizo should be slathered with a bucketfull of white-knuckled terror gravy. That's right... I'm saying they should be all be duct taped to a big kitty-peed couch and forced to watch a Lost in Space marathon in slo-mo/remixed for deepest bass frequency.So, what you're saying is that the people with subscriptions should be the ones ofended by this, as we've already purchased the magazine and, in fact, own it. Therefore, there is only, truely, one more issue left to own...
Dang! He was right all along!
OK, I'm joking. Please don't beat me. :X
Danger! DAAANger DAAANNNNGEEERRR, Will Robbins!!!

Ophryon |

One can only get confused by "2 issues left" if one already owns the magazine before reading the cover.
...and the concept of Schroedinger's Cover says that until I open my mailbox and observe the magazine it is both and neither ultimate and penultimate. So if I read it with my eyes closed, do I get an extra issue?

Olaf the Stout |

Thank god he didn't see the issue where the had Angles instead of Angels on the cover! I can only imagine how mad he would have been when he couldn't find a single acute angle, obtuse angle or right-angle in the issue.
Yes, I'm a little late to the party. No-one told me about it. :-(
*Runs off to his room to cry himself to sleep*
Olaf the Stout

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ELAzalin wrote:So ..... you agree, there are two magazines left by this logic. So therefore the cover was correct?Mothman wrote:2 depending on how long I am perusing.
At this point, how many balls (or magazines) do you have left NOT ON THE FLOOR?Think critically my friend.
Dude - I cannot believe the wording of something on the cover is soooo important to you. No matter the interpretation - which James explained to you twice (at least). How about just going over to the WOTC board and complain about the magazines being cancelled for a few months. You will have a lot of company and people who agree with you. They would welcome your complaining nature...
And why should Paizo not advertise their new offering as the magazines close down. I am completely thrilled by what is coming (I do not suppose you have looked at the new Game Mastery Modules), and cannot wait for Pathfinder. I personally choose to support those companies that support my game. I support Paizo because they love the game and give us superior products and I support WOTC because they produce my game.
You can either be a cause for good or detract from those that support us. My suggestions is - if you are that mad about things in life - talk it over with your mother because obviously she really upset you as a kid...

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Thank god he didn't see the issue where the had Angles instead of Angels on the cover! I can only imagine how mad he would have been when he couldn't find a single acute angle, obtuse angle or right-angle in the issue.
I'm sure he could have found something that was obtuse ...
Ah, sorry, trying to play nice.

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tdewitt274 wrote:That's exactly what I'm saying. It's us subscribers who are getting shafted by the conventions of the english language and now that I've complained at englishlanguage.com I'm back to say that these english users at Paizo should be slathered with a bucketfull of white-knuckled terror gravy. That's right... I'm saying they should be all be duct taped to a big kitty-peed couch and forced to watch a Lost in Space marathon in slo-mo/remixed for deepest bass frequency.So, what you're saying is that the people with subscriptions should be the ones ofended by this, as we've already purchased the magazine and, in fact, own it. Therefore, there is only, truely, one more issue left to own...
Dang! He was right all along!
OK, I'm joking. Please don't beat me. :X
Danger! Danger, Will Robinson.™
The "Will Robinson" name and character likeness, and the following, "Warning! Warning!", "That does not compute.", and "Danger, Will Robinson!"; are registered trademarks of Gold Key Comics® Space Productions ©1954, 1967, 2007
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OK...you're right: I screwed up the quote the first time around.

The Jade |

The Jade wrote:One can only get confused by "2 issues left" if one already owns the magazine before reading the cover....and the concept of Schroedinger's Cover says that until I open my mailbox and observe the magazine it is both and neither ultimate and penultimate. So if I read it with my eyes closed, do I get an extra issue?
Precisely. Did you know Paizo's particular wording on their covers is arcanely designed to corrupt the mind of one young soul each year? It's some sort of sanity-sucking pact they had to make in order to secure all that inside information for all those Demonomicon articles.

Ophryon |

I can only imagine how mad he would have been when he couldn't find a single acute angle
Somehow this reminded me of Infocom's famous "T-Remover" (please tell me someone else here remembers...)
Applied to the heading in question, it would read "Ulimae Penulimae: wo issues lef". Now if that isn't a mind-altering incantation...

Anonymous User 141 |

BOOHOOWOOOHOOOO! WAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAA! sniff! sniff!
please hold me someone....
Here. That's alright Kruelaid, everything will be alright. Soon Pathfinder will be out and it will be a much better reading. See? You're smiling already!
This Carebear moment was brought to you by Paizo, probably the best publisher in the world

Phil. L |

This thread is amazing. Really.
As for editing. Paizo have made one genuine mistake recently. In the "Twisted Night" adventure Stephen describes all of the animals that have been affected by the song of despair and slaughtered. Unfortunately, creatures with less than 6 Intelligence (including all non-awakened non-familiar animals) are not affected by the song of despair. The monster ability therefore doesn't gel with the description of the encounter.

Elcian |

The Jade wrote:One can only get confused by "2 issues left" if one already owns the magazine before reading the cover....and the concept of Schroedinger's Cover says that until I open my mailbox and observe the magazine it is both and neither ultimate and penultimate. So if I read it with my eyes closed, do I get an extra issue?
Brilliant!
Glad you let the cat out of the box with this one
Elcian
Well I appreciated it anyway. *wanders off to contemplate further*

Elcian |

What saddens me the most about this thread is that there may never be another one.
What will I read with my after-work beer?
BOOHOOWOOOHOOOO! WAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAA! sniff! sniff!
please hold me someone....
Dont panic this is the Penultimate thread.
.....so there is one left.
No wait 2 left, no 1 left....or is it 2...
Umm, carry on..
Elcian

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I nominate the abolition of the thought police.
Also... here's a killer site for my fellow writers and those looking to cut down on their accidental gaffs.
Jade that is a MAD site. I bookmarked it for sure. Now I can show all of my friends that I am right when I correct their spelling mistakes. (They really hate it when I send back their stuff with red crosses and circles all through it).
P.S. And yes I did spell mechanism wrong in my original post (machanism)... I even proof read it too. Just goes to show you what can happen when you are in a hurry.
P.P.S. I just had to keep this thread going as I am pissing myself laughing =)

tdewitt274 |

Oh by the way, someone forgot it so far and without it, I am afraid that this thread's splendor would be uncomplete:
"You there! Yes, you [random poster]: I disagree with what you say, I mean you are a complete Nazi"
Okay. So, that's done.
I think that Godwin's Law cannot be forced. Besides, invoking it by "our side" would make the OP correct.
Don't do it man! Don't do it!

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This thread is amazing. Really.
As for editing. Paizo have made one genuine mistake recently. In the "Twisted Night" adventure Stephen describes all of the animals that have been affected by the song of despair and slaughtered. Unfortunately, creatures with less than 6 Intelligence (including all non-awakened non-familiar animals) are not affected by the song of despair. The monster ability therefore doesn't gel with the description of the encounter.
Poop. Thought I caught all the references to animals going crazy, but I guess not.

Lady Lena |

Phil. L wrote:Poop. Thought I caught all the references to animals going crazy, but I guess not.This thread is amazing. Really.
As for editing. Paizo have made one genuine mistake recently. In the "Twisted Night" adventure Stephen describes all of the animals that have been affected by the song of despair and slaughtered. Unfortunately, creatures with less than 6 Intelligence (including all non-awakened non-familiar animals) are not affected by the song of despair. The monster ability therefore doesn't gel with the description of the encounter.
Poor James, like you don't have enough on your plate. I think the odd mistake here and there can be forgiven due to the fantastic products and stories you guys manage to produce. Oh, and as my husband won't let me go near any of the newer Dungeons, I'll have to be studying my new Dragon when it gets here so I can play the pick on James game too ;)

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This thread is amazing. Really.
As for editing. Paizo have made one genuine mistake recently. In the "Twisted Night" adventure Stephen describes all of the animals that have been affected by the song of despair and slaughtered. Unfortunately, creatures with less than 6 Intelligence (including all non-awakened non-familiar animals) are not affected by the song of despair. The monster ability therefore doesn't gel with the description of the encounter.
Here's a kinda esoteric one--in Here There Be Monsters (I think), the pteranodon bust over the pteranodon statblock has teeth.

farewell2kings |

I have a friend who works for a magazine and they play a game each month. Whoever can sneak a minor error past the editor gets $50. Maybe they're doing the same thing to James?
Actually--I'm going to owe James a beer or two at a future GenCon convention for making a mistake like that.....I thought I was doing real well with Twisted Night since I actually went to the Wizards website to download the errata for the night twist (which changed the whole dang adventure since the despair song's range was brought down to Earth). Live and learn.