Kill Doctor Lucky


Product Discussion


I must say it's nice to see KDL get the treatment it deserves. However, I was wondering how this differs from the "directors cut" version avalible from Cheapass (besides the obvious of course). Things like card text, board layout and soforth. Are you also planning on printing expansion boards and variants like "Save Dr. Lucky"?

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nemo128 wrote:
I must say it's nice to see KDL get the treatment it deserves. However, I was wondering how this differs from the "directors cut" version avalible from Cheapass (besides the obvious of course). Things like card text, board layout and soforth. Are you also planning on printing expansion boards and variants like "Save Dr. Lucky"?

The card text is much the same, though there's now a bit more explanatory text on them, and they're in color, and are illustrated. The board layout is the same as the original map of the mansion. Spite tokens are now part of the main rules.

Currently, the only companion product we've announced is Kill Doctor Lucky... And His Little Dog, Too, an expansion which includes the dog variant rules from the special edition plus a couple of other variants using the dog.

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How appropriate is this game for younger players (6-10)?


Danflor wrote:
How appropriate is this game for younger players (6-10)?

It depends on how mature they are (inasmuch as they are able to recognize that the game is making fun of something that in reality would be quite wrong), and/or how sheltered you want to keep them.

The goal of the game is to "Kill Dr. Lucky" as he moves about a Clue-like board, after all. The winner is the person who does indeed kill Dr. Lucky. However, it is done with a sense of playful fun and without any gory detail. It's far milder than any video game, although it is made clear that Dr. Lucky is a very nice if a bit senile old man, and the players represent nefarious individuals with unspecified grudges or plots against him.

Play goes pretty much like this: on a turn, a player moves, and if they end up in a room alone with Dr. Lucky, they may play a card and declare an attempt to "Try to kill Dr. Lucky with a poke in the eye," or "...rat poison," "a broomstick," "a Civil War cannon," or "bad cream" (for examples). Other players then play luck cards which explain how Dr. Lucky avoids his unfortunate fate. These include answers such as "Doctor Lucky pauses to examine his own thumbs. You miss." or "You question your freshness."

I've played it with my cousins in that age group (well, age 9-12 actually, which would be a better choice than 6-10), and they enjoyed it a lot. A parent wasn't so sure it was in good taste, however. Not enough to stop the game, just enough to glance askance at the game with a slight bit of suspicion in a parental kind of way.

Having said all that, based on childhood development, I'd probably not play the game with most 6 or 7 year olds. At 8-10, it'd depend on the sophistication of the kid.


Danflor wrote:
How appropriate is this game for younger players (6-10)?

Our recommendation for the game is ages 10+, but I did demo this game for an 8-year old last year at Gen Con So Cal who whooped my butt. :-)


Joshua J. Frost wrote:
Our recommendation for the game is ages 10+, but I did demo this game for an 8-year old last year at Gen Con So Cal who whooped my butt. :-)

I got solidly beat by my 9 year-old cousin. She's a clever and vicious little nip.


Vic Wertz wrote:
Currently, the only companion product we've announced is Kill Doctor Lucky... And His Little Dog, Too, an expansion which includes the dog variant rules from the special edition plus a couple of other variants using the dog.

What's the odds we'll see Craigdarroch? I loved the expansion -- being Canadian -- and would like to see the larger board. The spite tokens were a nice touch, I must say, and the scotty dog's fun to use.

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Christopher LaHaise wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
Currently, the only companion product we've announced is Kill Doctor Lucky... And His Little Dog, Too, an expansion which includes the dog variant rules from the special edition plus a couple of other variants using the dog.
What's the odds we'll see Craigdarroch? I loved the expansion -- being Canadian -- and would like to see the larger board. The spite tokens were a nice touch, I must say, and the scotty dog's fun to use.

If you see it, it won't be called Craigdarroch—Cheapass Games encountered some problems after using that name.

We haven't yet decided what the next product in Titanic's KDL line might be.

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I just got the deluxe edition and the "And His Little Dog Too" expansion. Everything is beautiful quality except the rules sheet, both for the game and the expansion, are alarmingly thin. Unless I get them laminated, they're not going to survive players very long. The corners have already got bent up by someone putting the box lid on with the sheet slid over.

For future reprints, PLEASE go to slightly heavier magazine coverstock rather than just magazine pagestock.

Also consider having some one-page play summary printed or tipped-in on the inside of the lid. That would make the game survive far longer.

Scarab Sages

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I played this for the first time yesterday and had a blast. The first thing that surprised me was that the rules are simple. I cannot wait to play again in the near future.

Thanks so much for hte great entertainment you provide.

Liberty's Edge

Is this a game that someone who likes Clue a lot, but isn't really a game person might like? Because my mom's birthday is coming up, and she loves Clue and Scrabble, but I've already upgraded both her sets twice in the last ten years. So, um, I need something new.


Gailbraithe wrote:
Is this a game that someone who likes Clue a lot, but isn't really a game person might like?

In my opinion yes. KDL is like the prequel to Clue.

Scarab Sages

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A prequel to clue. Yes, it is a lot like that and I do believe that someone who likes clue would enjoy it.

It is a great game.


Since there wasn't one already, I started a Yahoo group for KDL.

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DrLucky/?yguid=289399578

Please join and share your experiences and game tips.


Yes I've got a friend who loves Clue, actually has every released edition including card expansion. And they fell in love with Kill Doctor Lucky. Now she wants to try our collection of other non-mainstream games.


When does this come back available?

Been "dying" to get my hands on it. How "unlucky" for me!

Sczarni

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reinbowarrior wrote:

When does this come back available?

Been "dying" to get my hands on it. How "unlucky" for me!

You also might want to try your local gaming store. I know the one I work at has KDL, and as of last week the distributor still had a few (so you might be able to special order it).

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reinbowarrior wrote:

When does this come back available?

Been "dying" to get my hands on it. How "unlucky" for me!

While we hope to reprint it eventually, we've been unable to get a quote for the reprint that won't require us to raise the price point substantially. We're still looking....


I brought this game to school and one of my kids accidently broke the board when he folded it wrong. I want to replace my home copy. When will this game be available again? It's hard to find now (I realize its out of print now)

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P.H. Dungeon wrote:
I brought this game to school and one of my kids accidently broke the board when he folded it wrong. I want to replace my home copy. When will this game be available again? It's hard to find now (I realize its out of print now)

Hopefully by Gen Con in August.... hopefully.

Sovereign Court

Vic Wertz wrote:
P.H. Dungeon wrote:
I brought this game to school and one of my kids accidently broke the board when he folded it wrong. I want to replace my home copy. When will this game be available again? It's hard to find now (I realize its out of print now)
Hopefully by Gen Con in August.... hopefully.

That is fantastic news. Thanks for the update.


Any idea how long it might take before Paizo has more of "Kill Dr.Lucky" in stock?

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fallenknight663 wrote:
Any idea how long it might take before Paizo has more of "Kill Dr.Lucky" in stock?

We are working on a reprint, but need to get some new art for some changes to the packaging. Then we need to find a time when we aren't printing an expensive hardback book so that we have the cash flow to pay the printing costs, which tend to be really high for boardgames. I would expect that we will have it back in stock in October or November at the latest.

-Lisa

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

I would really like to purchase this game... my family loves playing "Clue", and I think this would be a fantastic variant to offer them.

Is the ETA for a reprint of Kill Doctor Lucky still around October/November?

Thanks in advance for any info.

Cheers,
M

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Mauricio Quintana wrote:
Is the ETA for a reprint of Kill Doctor Lucky still around October/November?

That's still the goal.

Paizo Employee Director of Brand Strategy

Lisa said last night that a reprint is coming out for Christmas. Whether that means December or a bit earlier she didn't say.

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