Pathfinder Online Supplements


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Will there be online supplements for Pathfinder similar to the Dungeon Magazine online supplements?

I hope so!

We make extensive use of the digital art and player maps with tabletop projection.

In fact, I find these digital supplements valuable enough pay extra for...


I second that.
I'm planning to run Rise of the Runelords via the fantasygrounds-software and player-maps like those in the dungeon online-supplements would be of great value to me.

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Boredflak wrote:

Will there be online supplements for Pathfinder similar to the Dungeon Magazine online supplements?

I hope so!

Same here! Beside maps and player handouts, I'm sure there's always good material that just can't fit into the printed product.

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A full PDF of each volume of Pathfinder goes up for sale the same day that the volume in question releases. If you have a subscription to Pathfinder, the PDF is free for you.

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James Jacobs wrote:
A full PDF of each volume of Pathfinder goes up for sale the same day that the volume in question releases. If you have a subscription to Pathfinder, the PDF is free for you.

Cool, that is good to hear.

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James Jacobs wrote:
A full PDF of each volume of Pathfinder goes up for sale the same day that the volume in question releases. If you have a subscription to Pathfinder, the PDF is free for you.

That's terrific, and I will certainly download the PDF version, but one of the things I find most valuable about the Dungeon online supplements is the player maps (DM info such as secret doors, room numbers, traps, etc. removed).

Without that I'll have to do some very time consuming image editing.

Will player versions of maps be included in the PDF version?

Thanks!

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Boredflak wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
A full PDF of each volume of Pathfinder goes up for sale the same day that the volume in question releases. If you have a subscription to Pathfinder, the PDF is free for you.

That's terrific, and I will certainly download the PDF version, but one of the things I find most valuable about the Dungeon online supplements is the player maps (DM info such as secret doors, room numbers, traps, etc. removed).

Without that I'll have to do some very time consuming image editing.

Will player versions of maps be included in the PDF version?

Thanks!

I'm not sure yet. It's certainly something that seems popular, so I'd love to keep including it, and I'll do what I can to see that it happens... but in the end, I'm not the one who has to go in and prepare the alternate maps or post them. There's a chance we won't have the resources to do so, is what I'm saying, with the nature of the company changing so drasticaly now that the magazines are going away.

Stay tuned to the boards here; once we've got an official answer regarding tagless maps, I'll post it.

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In addition to the PDFs, my main request would be a high res version of the map (updated ever so often) for people who want to get a wall map printed at Kinkos or something.

Make it so.


James Jacobs wrote:
A full PDF of each volume of Pathfinder goes up for sale the same day that the volume in question releases. If you have a subscription to Pathfinder, the PDF is free for you.

It is my understanding that there is no current way to provide this access to people who pick up the books at their FLGS. Is there a way the maps and art can be made available online like they were for Dungeon for those who do not subscribe, and would rather not buy the PDFs in addition to the books?

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VanDeBeast wrote:

It is my understanding that there is no current way to provide this access to people who pick up the books at their FLGS. Is there a way the maps and art can be made available online like they were for Dungeon for those who do not subscribe, and would rather not buy the PDFs in addition to the books?

That's certainly something that we'll need to discuss here in the weeks/months to come. I don't have an answer right now.


The maps and art like the ones provided for Dungeon are very useful. If it lessens the load somehow you can ditch the marked maps (DM maps)--If you have the book you can look them up there--but leave the unmarked version (player map).

On the topic of people buying the book at their FLGS and not getting a PDF version; I'm pretty sure something like an insert with a serial number is a logistics nightmare. I say don't do anything about it. Nobody goes to a brick and mortar store to buy a PDF. People buying online are probably more inclined to use a PDF.

It doesn't seem unfair to me at all, it's a "bonus". You pay for the book, anything extra is exactly that. If you still can't sleep well at night, reinforce the idea that it is a perk for subscribers.

If you want the PDF for free, subscribe!


James Jacobs wrote:
That's certainly something that we'll need to discuss here in the weeks/months to come. I don't have an answer right now.

I'm glad to hear you are going to discuss this. I find the Dungeon supplements to be very helpful in the Age of Worms campaign I am running at the moment.


James Jacobs wrote:
That's certainly something that we'll need to discuss here in the weeks/months to come. I don't have an answer right now.

Just wanted to add another voice in praise of the symbol-free maps in the Dungeon supplements. I use them lots. Those would be a very valuable addition to the subscriber PDF's.


Wyvern wrote:
On the topic of people buying the book at their FLGS and not getting a PDF version; I'm pretty sure something like an insert with a serial number is a logistics nightmare. I say don't do anything about it. Nobody goes to a brick and mortar store to buy a PDF. People buying online are probably more inclined to use a PDF.

Maybe I'm just weird, but I'd usually prefer to purchase RPG products at my FLGS. I'm not looking for the PDF version were I to purchase Pathfinder at my FLGS, just the supplemental material equivalent to what is already available for Dungeon, and I think that is the desire of earlier posters in this thread as well.

Wyvern wrote:

It doesn't seem unfair to me at all, it's a "bonus". You pay for the book, anything extra is exactly that. If you still can't sleep well at night, reinforce the idea that it is a perk for subscribers.

If you want the PDF for free, subscribe!

Sure, that is Paizo's prerogative, and I understand that decision. I'm going to subscribe through the first AP. However, I'd like the option of supporting my FLGS by purchasing Pathfinder there, but still be able to get a PDF with the maps and relevant illustrations for the module which I could print from to use as players' aids.


VanDeBeast wrote:
Sure, that is Paizo's prerogative, and I understand that decision. I'm going to subscribe through the first AP. However, I'd like the option of supporting my FLGS by purchasing Pathfinder there, but still be able to get a PDF with the maps and relevant illustrations for the module which I could print from to use as players' aids.

Oh yeah don't misunderstand me. I was talking about two different things:

(1) The whole book as a PDF, and
(2) a PDF with art and maps.

I was saying that it should be ok to have (1) as a subscriber perk. And I'd really like (2) to happen, just like the Dungeon supplements.

As matter of fact, I don't care that much for (1), I'm going to have the actual book in my hands. I do care for (2)... then again, if (2) is not going to happen suddenly (1) seems like a good alternative.


Definately symbol-less maps. They can be printed out, handed to someone to draw, or projected on the table (some day...).


I will definitely use the maps with all of the symbols removed. We use a projector during our games and the maps are great! Saves a ton of time usually spent drawing maps that can be used to game more. Plus the maps look alot better than what I can draw on a battlemat.

One more vote for the maps!


Let's make this more concrete. They've said that they might not be able to afford to give us pdf maps without the symbols, so how much extra would we be willing to pay for these?


I guess my misunderstanding of the process is that the maps are done electronically. Therefore, the maps are designed and then the features/writing are put on the image afterward. I don't know much about layering on a PDF, but I'd prefer a second image (Player map and GM map) versus layering the Player map with GM symbols.

So, in my opinion, it's not a matter of 2 commissioned works, but a matter of the artist stating that it's two different works and paid for their time.

No offense to anyone, I can understand where the artist is coming from. It might be a matter of the contract. Might be something with the artist still holds rights as well.

But then, that's why I'm the consumer and not the publisher.

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Wyvern wrote:

Oh yeah don't misunderstand me. I was talking about two different things:

(1) The whole book as a PDF, and
(2) a PDF with art and maps.

I was saying that it should be ok to have (1) as a subscriber perk. And I'd really like (2) to happen, just like the Dungeon supplements.

As matter of fact, I don't care that much for (1), I'm going to have the actual book in my hands. I do care for (2)... then again, if (2) is not going to happen suddenly (1) seems like a good alternative.

When you have (1), you essentially have (2). It should be fairly easy to export images from the pdf. Also, depending on how the map tags are done, you'll be able to export the map sans tags.


tbug wrote:
so how much extra would we be willing to pay for these?

I'd happily pay a few bucks per issue. Call it $2.99

That being said, I doubt I'm a typical D&D hobbyist. I'm in may late 30's, have an established full-time job, and focus my entertainment expenditures on D&D. I'm sure there are plenty of students and younger, or less focused gamers out there that have a leaner budget.


I was just about to hit the subscribe button whan I noticed the $5 shipping costs. Can you/are you offering subscription for PDFs only so you don't get the physical book only the PDF?

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Peebo Pickle Pardfart wrote:
I was just about to hit the subscribe button whan I noticed the $5 shipping costs. Can you/are you offering subscription for PDFs only so you don't get the physical book only the PDF?

There are no PDF-only subs. PDFs will be available individually for $13.99, which, you may note, is the subscriber cost for the product. So you can choose to look it as subscribing to the PDF and getting the printed copy for the cost of shipping...

(And I'd also like to point out to those skimming the thread that the $5 shipping cost is for international subscribers; it's $4 for US subscribers—less for some destinations.)


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And when we're able to combine it with Gamemastery and other stuff, then it will be nearly insignificant.


Vic Wertz wrote:

There are no PDF-only subs. PDFs will be available individually for $13.99, which, you may note, is the subscriber cost for the product. So you can choose to look it as subscribing to the PDF and getting the printed copy for the cost of shipping...

Thanks. Hadn't thought of that.

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