"Jervis Stoot and Chopper were the same, and the eyes and tongues of all 25 victims were found in a horrific altar to a birdlike demon whose name none dared speak aloud."
Are there any other bird-like demons besides Pazuzu?
Could just be your standard Vrock
Pazuzu used to be known as Pazrael?
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Yep, as soon as I saw birds and eccentric I knew Stoot was a Demon cultist dedicated to Pazuzu! Just beware when you enter the woods of Stoot's Island and heard a low, bass, "TWEET" behind you.
Oh and there's no such thing as a standard Vrock bud... Here's Spores in your eye!
- singing like a Vlark!
Chances of there being Pazuzu elements in Sandpoint are indeed pretty high...
Great! Pazuzu is surely one of the best demon princes!!!
Chances of there being Pazuzu elements in Sandpoint are indeed pretty high...
Would using the name "Pazuzu" in conjunction with "bird-themed demon-lord" element not be a violation of WotC's copyrights?
I know the name predates WotC by a couple thousand years and is well into the public domain, but is it the case for Pazuzu as birdie-demon lord??
Just wondering...
Bocklin
I'm pretty sure all the Demon Lords/Devils are OGL. I'm not 100% on this tho.
I watched The Exorcist at work the other night. I was surprised to find out I was the only one to have seen it before.
Pazuzu used to be known as Pazrael?
Yes, it was (and presumably still is) an alternate name that he goes by (at least in D&D).
I'm pretty sure all the Demon Lords/Devils are OGL. I'm not 100% on this tho.
A good chunk of them are from various mythos around the world. Some are not (Malcanthet, Shami-Amourae come to mind - but they're easily replaced with my namesake ;) ).
Pazuzu was described as being so incredibly ugly that other demons were scared of him - statues of him were placed in the windows of home to scare off other demons (facing out from the home, not facing in - an important distinction).
So is Pazuzu the birdie demon-lord OGL or not?
My point is, if he is not clearly OGL, it might be dangerous for Paizo to pluck an old mythology name (free of rights) and to use it for a birdie demonlord that really looks like a WotC demonlord. The name might be free of use, but maybe not the specific use you make of it?
Does someone know where this answer of which demonlord are OGL or not can be found?
Bocklin
So is Pazuzu the birdie demon-lord OGL or not?
My point is, if he is not clearly OGL, it might be dangerous for Paizo to pluck an old mythology name (free of rights) and to use it for a birdie demonlord that really looks like a WotC demonlord. The name might be free of use, but maybe not the specific use you make of it?
Does someone know where this answer of which demonlord are OGL or not can be found?
Bocklin
I might be simplifying things here, but if he was OGL, wouldn't he be in the SRD?
He is not, so I imagine that he is not OGL . . .yes the name is free of use as it is mythos, and I am sure Paizo is well aware of what it can and cannot do with the birdman . . .they would not use him if they couldn't.
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We can certainly use the name Pazuzu, and we can certainly use his mythos in Pathfinder, but we can't use the D&D version that appeares in the Demonomicon or in Fiendish Codex I. That interpretation is strictly WotC's IP. Sort of. Because Pazuzu as a bird demon also appears in the Tome of Horrors I, and that IS an OGL product. So it's a little weird and complicated.
The Pazuzu in our world will remain a demon lord, and if/when we ever need stats for him, we'll probably make up our own that are similar but different. He'll also probably draw a LOT more heavilly on the real-world mythology of the character.
In any event... careful readers will note that the name Pazuzu doesn't appear (and likely won't appear) in context with the events of the Late Unpleasentness in Sandpoint. Not only does this keep things nice and creepy and mysterious, but it gives us more time to decide how exactly we want to handle him.
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was vaguely familiar with Pazuzu...
looked him up on wikipedia. Yeah I know not the best source but still it's ok.
this description struck a cord.
He has the body of a man, the head of a lion or dog, eagle-like taloned feet, two pairs of wings, the tail of a scorpion, and a Serpentine penis.
Don't know about you guys, but that is a LOT cooler than a bird demon! Ok ok... being for all ages take off the penis... *ouch*
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He has the body of a man, the head of a lion or dog, eagle-like taloned feet, two pairs of wings, the tail of a scorpion, and a Serpentine penis.
Don't know about you guys, but that is a LOT cooler than a bird demon! Ok ok... being for all ages take off the penis... *ouch*
Huh, amulets of Pazuzu were placed in houses or worn by pregnant women to protect against Lamashtu.
Not to be confused with Paizozu, deific demon of soda flavor mixing.
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We can certainly use the name Pazuzu, and we can certainly use his mythos in Pathfinder, but we can't use the D&D version that appeares in the Demonomicon or in Fiendish Codex I. That interpretation is strictly WotC's IP. Sort of. Because Pazuzu as a bird demon also appears in the Tome of Horrors I, and that IS an OGL product. So it's a little weird and complicated.
The Pazuzu in our world will remain a demon lord, and if/when we ever need stats for him, we'll probably make up our own that are similar but different. He'll also probably draw a LOT more heavilly on the real-world mythology of the character.
In any event... careful readers will note that the name Pazuzu doesn't appear (and likely won't appear) in context with the events of the Late Unpleasentness in Sandpoint. Not only does this keep things nice and creepy and mysterious, but it gives us more time to decide how exactly we want to handle him.
Time for a sticky legal thread, isn't it? ;-)
These ever repeating questions of ours...Greetings,
Günther