In this post here in a thread on EN World, Erik Mona talked about the idea of producing an annual equivalent of a "Best Of Dungeon Magazine" (obviously with a different title though). It would have about 30 or so new adventures like you would see in a typical issue of Dungeon and be about 150-200 pages long.
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Earlier today, while pondering this issue, I came up with the idea of a fairly sizable annual collection of, say, 30 or so of this type of adventure, written 100% by "new" authors who query and submit the modules to us. In this case I mean "new" authors who have not yet been assigned a Pathfinder adventure or GameMastery Module. This would be a stand-alone softcover book, most likely. Let's say 150-200 pages long. Anyone think that would be fun?
Personally I love this idea and would definitely buy it if they decided to go ahead with it. What do you think? Is it a good idea? Would you buy it?
Olaf the Stout
Would you buy it?
Yep yep. Absolutely!
In this post here in a thread on EN World, Erik Mona talked about the idea of producing an annual equivalent of a "Best Of Dungeon Magazine" (obviously with a different title though). It would have about 30 or so new adventures like you would see in a typical issue of Dungeon and be about 150-200 pages long.
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Earlier today, while pondering this issue, I came up with the idea of a fairly sizable annual collection of, say, 30 or so of this type of adventure, written 100% by "new" authors who query and submit the modules to us. In this case I mean "new" authors who have not yet been assigned a Pathfinder adventure or GameMastery Module. This would be a stand-alone softcover book, most likely. Let's say 150-200 pages long. Anyone think that would be fun?Personally I love this idea and would definitely buy it if they decided to go ahead with it. What do you think? Is it a good idea? Would you buy it?
Olaf the Stout
I still think this would work better as a quarterly than a big book at the end of the year. Perhaps anchor each volume with one or two medium length adventures by a "name"
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I still think this would work better as a quarterly than a big book at the end of the year. Perhaps anchor each volume with one or two medium length adventures by a "name"- Ashavan
Quarterly sounds better to me as well. Say, 6-10 adventures each of "typical" dungeon length, and the idea of a longer "title" adventure sounds good as well.
Stefan
I think I read on EN World (it was an interview but I cant do links, sorry) that the WOTC guys are thinking of a hardcover compilation of the online content to their Dungeon and Dragon.
I know Paizo is a seperate company and OGL means this would not have to be passed through wizards but I wonder what it might do to the relationship, or the possibilities of future products licenced from them?
I'd buy it though, in a second.
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I know Paizo is a seperate company and OGL means this would not have to be passed through wizards but I wonder what it might do to the relationship, or the possibilities of future products licenced from them?
We're still on great terms with WotC, and the possibility of Paizo dong more licensed products in the future is a very real one.
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I still think this would work better as a quarterly than a big book at the end of the year. Perhaps anchor each volume with one or two medium length adventures by a "name"
Actually, after thinking about this for a while I think a quarterly or bi-annual book is probably the way to go, too.
--Erik
I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Nobody produces a better adventure than Paizo. Nobody.
I'd buy it.
Actually, after thinking about this for a while I think a quarterly or bi-annual book is probably the way to go, too.
--Erik
This sounds better and better.
Have you guys considered doing a monthly one, perhaps with 3 adventures in it?
Hilarious! :)
Erik, if you did a quarterly or bi-annual one I would probably buy it. Of course I imagine that finding the time to actually make the book in the first place will be a challenge all by itself.
Olaf the Stout
I love the idea of getting that many adventures in one go, as well as the idea of using "new" authors so we can really get a good variety and give more DMs out there a chance to shine.
However, wouldn't it be somewhat confusing now that Paizo can't use any licensed WotC stuff? By that I mean it might be tough to make sure enough quality submissions remember to, say, not include mindflayers and other stuff owned by WotC.
Maybe after a year or so of Pathfinder there'd be enough new monsters, items, prestige classes, etc that authors could be encouraged to focus on the Pathfinder world to limit OGL violations.
However, wouldn't it be somewhat confusing now that Paizo can't use any licensed WotC stuff? By that I mean it might be tough to make sure enough quality submissions remember to, say, not include mindflayers and other stuff owned by WotC.
Maybe after a year or so of Pathfinder there'd be enough new monsters, items, prestige classes, etc that authors could be encouraged to focus on the Pathfinder world to limit OGL violations.
I don't see it as a problem at all, to be honest. While there's all sorts of cool things that are lost to us freelancers (warlocks, hexblades, mind flayers, all of MM2, 3, 4, and 5, etc) there's quite literally a ton of OGL books out there. Looking at my shelf at the moment, I count 10 "Monster" books, and I know there's quality books I don't yet own. And that doesn't count critters that appear in other books I own.
In short, I think you'll see adventures that are at least as interesting - possibly even more so, given the expanded area writers can explore.
I would also love to see a Dungeon Annual. There were a lot of great early 2E adventures that I would love to see given the 3.5E treatment including Wolfgang Baur's "Kingdom of Ghouls" from issue #70 and "Ex Keraptis Cum Amore" by Andrew Miller from #77 to name just a few. I think this kind of annual would go over well.
Count me in for this one (both as a buyer and a potential contributor).
I would also love to see a Dungeon Annual. There were a lot of great early 2E adventures that I would love to see given the 3.5E treatment including Wolfgang Baur's "Kingdom of Ghouls" from issue #70 and "Ex Keraptis Cum Amore" by Andrew Miller from #77 to name just a few. I think this kind of annual would go over well.
I'm not sure whether this would be possible, since these adventures are the property of WotC and not Paizo (anymore). I don't think Paizo could use the stats for true ghouls presented in DUNGEON for one.
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I still think this would work better as a quarterly than a big book at the end of the year. Perhaps anchor each volume with one or two medium length adventures by a "name"
I like the quarterly idea also. Maybe have a couple adventures each for low, mid, and high level, with an extra adventure in each issue that builds on a recurring location.
Like, say, Movri Castle, or Belowmountain (or something).
I'd Buy this in a shot!
Quarterly at least.
I love the idea of getting that many adventures in one go, as well as the idea of using "new" authors so we can really get a good variety and give more DMs out there a chance to shine.
However, wouldn't it be somewhat confusing now that Paizo can't use any licensed WotC stuff? By that I mean it might be tough to make sure enough quality submissions remember to, say, not include mindflayers and other stuff owned by WotC.
Maybe after a year or so of Pathfinder there'd be enough new monsters, items, prestige classes, etc that authors could be encouraged to focus on the Pathfinder world to limit OGL violations.
Those submitting the ideas would figure it out pretty quick - or their work would not get published. I bet one or two 'rejected because of copy right infringement' template emails would clue them in.
I would also love to see a Dungeon Annual. There were a lot of great early 2E adventures that I would love to see given the 3.5E treatment including Wolfgang Baur's "Kingdom of Ghouls" from issue #70 and "Ex Keraptis Cum Amore" by Andrew Miller from #77 to name just a few. I think this kind of annual would go over well.
WotC would have to do this sort of thing as they own the rights. They might agree to subcontract this out to Paizo but I'd not hold your breath for the immediate future as WotC is pulling their licenses in and prepping for something they feel will be big. I can't see subcontracting out jobs to be big on their to do list right now.
I am a big fan of 5-6 pages per adventure. Keep the stuff I dont need OUT of the adventure, I dont need to know the history of every npc, or some tragic event that happened 1000 years ago. Keep the words simple. Include maps, and interesting ideas. Do it quarterly and have lots of adventures, and I am a subscriber again :)
I would buy it....which reminded me, I'm trying to decide if I should use my unused account credit on back issues of dungeon, but was hesitant b/c of the crapshoot nature of it. Is there some objective list of the 'best' dungeon adventures of all time? I realize that's tough to do, but if I can pick 6 back issues, I want to make the most of it...
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I am a big fan of 5-6 pages per adventure. Keep the stuff I dont need OUT of the adventure, I dont need to know the history of every npc, or some tragic event that happened 1000 years ago.
However some of us do like history behind the adventure to use in our long ongoing campains. Maybe offer the histories and backgrounds to us as web enhancements.
Any further news on this?
Olaf the Stout
I think this is an awesome idea. I wouldn't be surprised to see something like this from Paizo, and I would buy it in an instant!
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I think it's an awesome idea. I would buy it (no, I'd PRE-ORDER it) in a heartbeat. I would love a book of short to medium length adventures of varying level spans.
It could be the "bush leagues" for writing for the Pathfinder modules, or the other GameMastery adventures.
It's been tossed around on here that eventually, new authors can (and should) submit monsters/bestiary entries for publication. If these get accepted, the next "step" might be to write a 5 or 6 page adventure for this compilation.
After you've become an established author whose ideas are trusted, is known to meet deadlines, etc. you could move onto the bigger projects.
Count me in! Quarterly - My $0.02.
I'm in.
Love the idea. I've always thought doing an adventure anthology a few times a year is a good idea; gives new adventure authors a chance to get their work out there and some more work from veterans that isn't tied to a particular campaign.
I'm a qualified "in". While I love and miss the short Side Trek adventures formerly found in Dungeon, I'm not sure I want a whole publication of them. I'd rather have fewer/longer adventures anytime. You know, like the ones we're getting in Dungeon :)
Of course, I understand these would need to be OGL-compliant...
Well I'd sure love to see adventures done by the fan base again. I love the great stuff people like Richard and Logue put out but I always loved seeing what other D&D players come up with.
Anyone from Paizo care to comment on the possibility of such a product being made?
Olaf the Stout
As a subscriber to Pathfinder/Dungeon/GameMastery modules, I can say that I have never been more impressed with a adventure publishing company and would gladly buy any Paizo produced adventure product.
ASEO out
I'd definately buy it if Logue wasn't in it
On a similar note, will we ever see another Dragon Compendium?
I'd definately buy it if Logue wasn't in it
Oh ho ho! The illustrious Rich Pett graces us with his presence. Look out motherf~@~er! I'm coming for you in Reading!
Yeah! I would buy it too.
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Given Paizo's track record, I'd imagine this to be of the highest quality. Do it as a hardbound (or softbound) and downloadable .pdf, and I'm sold.
That said, a couple of suggestions.
1. Let's see how well OGL goes before suggesting Paizo work out an official "Dungeon" with WotC. I remain among the skeptics to see what happens with Dragon and Dungeon as WotC's DI and fear that Paizo's "Annual Dungeon" might inadvertently curb creativity.
2. d20 Modern. Any hope of doing the same for that campaign setting? Or perhaps seek out adventures that can play out across campaign settings with tweaks.
I'd definately buy it if Logue wasn't in itOh ho ho! The illustrious Rich Pett graces us with his presence. Look out motherf%#%er! I'm coming for you in Reading!
yawn
I'd definately buy it if Logue wasn't in itBut . . . it's the "Best of" . . . so Logue can't be in it.
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::Oh c'mon, you knew someone would do it::
Oh - very good point:)
Huzzah!