Hierophantasm |
Has anyone noticed that the Savage Tide Adventure Path is shaping up to contain a significant amount of "cheesecake"?
To explain, Serpents of Scuttlecove just came out, and I'm noticing a continuing trend amongst the female NPCs that they are (mostly) all tough and hot...well, er, vixens! (Thank you, Russ Meyer.)
We have, as a running total:
Lavinia Vanderboren (truly the "goodie two-shoes" of the batch)
Rowyn Kellani (my favorite, and the first fiery femme fatale)
Harliss Javell (brassy, raven-haired, and competent beyond most men)
Tyralandi (half-fiend nymph...nuff said)
That's not even mentioning other "hotties", like Liamae Teslikaria or Amella Venkalie. Also, we're sure to see the seductive succubi queens, like Shami-Amourae and Malcanthet.
So, what's the deal, Paizo? Are we going to see a "Sasserine Swimsuit Spectacular" on your list of releases? ;-)
James Jacobs Creative Director |
It's true; there's an awful lot of cheesecake in Savage Tide. Although we've taken pains to make sure that Lavinia, at least, isn't really presented as a pin-up girl (or Harliss, for that matter). Tyralandi's another story, as are the ones coming up in the last for installments. In other words, there's more to come. Like Malcanthet. Shami-Amourae. Red Shroud. Iggwilv. Orcus.
Wait. Never mind that last one.
cthulhu_waits |
Mmm..Orcus. How well I recall the first Playdemon centerfold with Orcus' hot visage. I'm gonna stop now, because I'm disturbing myself.
I must be turning into a feminist or something. I thought at one point, "Gee, STAP has a lot of strong female characters in it: Lavinia, Rowyn, Harliss.." I prefer the term "cheesecake" to strong female characters. :)
Oh, and I love the title of this thread! Great reference, even though I've never seen the movie.
Hierophantasm |
And yes. This is possibly the best thread title ever.
Thanks! But you're not off the hook with that pin-up calendar that easy!
Orcus? Cheescake? That's just wrong...
The only time "Orcus" and "cheesecake" would be found in the same sentence would be if he was shoving another slice of triple fudge caramel ripple down his Abyssal gullet, the fat bastard. That's why he's "Prince of the Undead", and not "Prince of the Unfed".
King o' Cthulhu |
Lavinia Vanderboren (truly the "goodie two-shoes" of the batch)
Rowyn Kellani (my favorite, and the first fiery femme fatale)
Harliss Javell (brassy, raven-haired, and competent beyond most men)
Tyralandi (half-fiend nymph...nuff said)
Harliss Javell is my favorite.
Side note: Tyralandi is creeeeepyNicolas Logue Contributor |
Hierophantasm wrote:
Lavinia Vanderboren (truly the "goodie two-shoes" of the batch)
Rowyn Kellani (my favorite, and the first fiery femme fatale)
Harliss Javell (brassy, raven-haired, and competent beyond most men)
Tyralandi (half-fiend nymph...nuff said)
Harliss Javell is my favorite.
Side note: Tyralandi is creeeeepy
Javell! That's my woman! Stupid Pett! ;-)
Harliss Javell is my woman! MINE!
::Checks to make sure fiancee is not reading over his shoulder::
MINE!
;-)
carborundum RPG Superstar 2010 Top 32 |
The title reminds me of "Faster Kill Pussycat" from Oakenfold's "A Lively Mind" album. :P
That's not all!
There's the naughty 60's cult film from Russ Meyer. His "ode to the violence in women!" Basically three, sexy, large-breasted, murderous women, stronger than the men and using every weapon they have to prove it.
"Superwomen! Belted, buckled and booted!"
"Go-Go For a Wild Ride With the ACTION GIRLS!"
Dag Hammarskjold |
You are forgetting the jailbait cabin "boy" ... Tavey Nesk, who is obviously pretending to be a boy ... look at the picture in #142 and tell me I'm not right.
Tavey's definately a boy. He looks just like Jonathan Taylor Thomas as Tom Sawyer. Of course now that I say that, everyone's probably going to have him eaten by dinosaurs just to erase the image.
Gibberer |
I thought it might be fun to have Tyralandi join the party on a temporary basis. I figure my group, which wanted to 'save' Lashonna, is bound to wind up as the hopeless thralls of some demon or other by the end of this so why not give them some pretence that it was their own choice?
As for the cabin boy, don't be silly. He's not a girl, he's simply the latest androgynous high priest of Malcanthet to make an appearance in Dungeon magazine. And sailors do not try things he doesn't approve of. At least, not twice.
Lipto the Shiv |
In other words, there's more to come. Like Malcanthet. Shami-Amourae. Red Shroud. Iggwilv. Orcus.
Holy crap! Does this mean someone is finally going to publish stats for Iggwilv? What's next, The Lady of Pain?
Regardless, let it be known that I would shell out the requisite cash for a Savage Tide Swimsuit Issue. For uh... the articles of course.
Fletch |
He looks just like Jonathan Taylor Thomas as Tom Sawyer. Of course now that I say that, everyone's probably going to have him eaten by dinosaurs just to erase the image.
There are worse reasons to feed Jonathan Taylor Thomas to a dinosaur.
In any case, this thread did present me with the actually brilliant idea of making Tavey a girl disguised as a boy. At the least that would make for some suspicious behavior on his/her part when the party starts looking for the poisoner hiding on the ship, but it also reminds me of the girl in 'Pitch Black'. Allowing the dinos or terror birds to home in on her scent in the same way the critters in that movie did might make for some action-packed drama.
By the way, I used to run a Shadowrun character named 'Faster Pussycat'. That's a 'going double the distance' kind of geekiness.
The Black Bard |
Yeah, Tavey was a girl in my game, but only the dwarven cleric with the super-maxed out heal skill, and the aventi druid who spent most of her time wildshaped into creatures with scent ever noticed. The frost sorceror captain still has no clue, and probably won't ever find out, now that Tavey is living on one of the farms.
stingraylonnie |
Tavey's definately a boy. He looks just like Jonathan Taylor Thomas as Tom Sawyer. Of course now that I say that, everyone's probably going to have him eaten by dinosaurs just to erase the image.
I had plans for HIM to be attacked by the T-Rex, but run under a low overhang.
One of my players is then going to ask me why the T-Rex hasn't seized the boy? So I can reply because his head is so big and he has little arms. I love that part of the newest animated movie coming out, it makes me laugh everytime I see it;)
Agamon the Dark |
It's true; there's an awful lot of cheesecake in Savage Tide. Although we've taken pains to make sure that Lavinia, at least, isn't really presented as a pin-up girl
Well, then you haven't seen the mini our DM and his wife picked out for her. Unpainted, no one noticed anything unusual, but now that she's got some color, my eyes bulged at the sight.
"Wow, is Lavinia that stacked?"
"Uh, no, that might be a bit if an exageration..."
:-p
Blackdragon |
James Jacobs wrote:And yes. This is possibly the best thread title ever.Thanks! But you're not off the hook with that pin-up calendar that easy!
GAAAHHHH wrote:Orcus? Cheescake? That's just wrong...The only time "Orcus" and "cheesecake" would be found in the same sentence would be if he was shoving another slice of triple fudge caramel ripple down his Abyssal gullet, the fat bastard. That's why he's "Prince of the Undead", and not "Prince of the Unfed".
Obviously you haven't seen the new and improved Orcus in the Book of Vile Darkness. It looks like he been on the South Beach diet and has a personal trainer now. Six pack abs and all.
Blackdragon |
DMaple wrote:You are forgetting the jailbait cabin "boy" ... Tavey Nesk, who is obviously pretending to be a boy ... look at the picture in #142 and tell me I'm not right.Tavey's definately a boy. He looks just like Jonathan Taylor Thomas as Tom Sawyer. Of course now that I say that, everyone's probably going to have him eaten by dinosaurs just to erase the image.
Everyone in my group thought he looked like a young Anakin Skywalker. I turned him into Darth Vader during the seige of Farshore, and he managed to kill the teams captain. (HE turned traitor on the group and sabotaged alot of the islands defenses.)
Jeremy Mac Donald |
I love the title of this thread. It brought me much joy.
What does 'cheescake' mean? O___O
A pin-up girl. Or a woman whose physical attractiveness would entice one to place a picture of her on a wall. Images might be cut out of magazines or newspapers, or be from postcards and so on historically. Pretty quickly such photos began to appear on calendars, which are meant to be pinned up anyway.
Nicolas Logue Contributor |
David Bedlam |
Well, then you haven't seen the mini our DM and his wife picked out for her. Unpainted, no one noticed anything unusual, but now that she's got some color, my eyes bulged at the sight.
"Wow, is Lavinia that stacked?"
"Uh, no, that might be a bit if an exageration..."
:-p
Okay, you can't just say something like that and not show us!
We demand photographic proof! Yes, we!
...
Fine! I! I demand photographic proof! :p
Peruhain of Brithondy |
Tavey Nesk. Uh oh, I guess we've got to play on at least one of the two folklorical roles of the cabin boy or it wouldn't be a nautical adventure. . .
The cabin boy, the cabin boy, that dirty little nipper,
He packed his a** with broken glass and circumcised the skipper!
or,
It's all a pretty female as you may understand,
Her mind be bent for travelin' unto some foreign land
She dressed herself in sailor's clothes, or so it does appear.
And she hired with a captain, to serve him for a year.
The captain's wife, she bein' onboard, she seemed in great joy,
To think her husband had engaged such a handsome cabin boy.
And now and them she'd slip him a kiss and she'd have liked to toy,
But it was the captain found out the secret of the handsome cabin boy.
Her cheeks they were like roses, and her hair all in gay curls.
The sailors often smiled and said, "he looks just like a girl."
But eatin' all the captain's biscuit her figure did destroy,
And the waist did swell of pretty Nell, the handsome cabin boy. . .
BrokenButterfly |
Side note: Tyralandi is creeeeepy
I guess every guy's open to his own views of course, but I'm now idolising Tyralandi as one of the most attractive creatures (so it's slightly wrong...) to have graced the pages of Dungeon. I've always loved nymphs in D&D (used a gothic cave nymph in my only homebrewed D&D adventure for instance) so to see a gothic nymph Angel of Death in this adventure (one of the best in the ST btw) really put the icing on the cake. Judging by the MM nymph, you could see that the bottom left-hand corner of the page was really the only place to have her portrait appear...
I don't think that this campaign has had much cheesecake in it up until now. NPCs such has Rowyn, Harliss and Lavinia never really struck me as being the pinup type...But now that we're moving into the realms of succubi (there's just something about the fiendish for me) it's looking like the real cake's just about to be served. Illustrations of Malcanthet have ranged from the beautiful (FC1 imo) to the truly creepy (Dragon cover I thought) so I'm particularly intrigued to see how she has been depicted this time around.
I'll take this opportunity to send out my thanks to the artists, since this AP has had some truly stunning pieces. My appreciation for the artists involved! But one question, the sketch of the T-Rex pouncing on the shipwreck survivors never saw print (from the ST preview). Please could I find out the answer as to why? That was one picture I would have adored seeing in full colour especially.
But to round off, I think that this campaign had to have heaps of cheesecake to counter that harpy. Now that was creeeeepy.
James Jacobs Creative Director |
The T-Rex attacking the shipwreck scene certainly occured in the adventure path, but we ended up using that bit of concept art as the inspiration to the cover of #139, which also served as the cover to the whole Savage Tide adventure path, which was in turn inspired by the original incarnation of this whole thing, the cover to the original Isle of Dread.
So... in a way, we did use it. Just not on the inside of the adventure.
savagedave22 |
King o' Cthulhu wrote:
Side note: Tyralandi is creeeeepyI guess every guy's open to his own views of course, but I'm now idolising Tyralandi as one of the most attractive creatures (so it's slightly wrong...) to have graced the pages of Dungeon. I've always loved nymphs in D&D (used a gothic cave nymph in my only homebrewed D&D adventure for instance) so to see a gothic nymph Angel of Death in this adventure (one of the best in the ST btw) really put the icing on the cake. Judging by the MM nymph, you could see that the bottom left-hand corner of the page was really the only place to have her portrait appear...
I don't think that this campaign has had much cheesecake in it up until now. NPCs such has Rowyn, Harliss and Lavinia never really struck me as being the pinup type...But now that we're moving into the realms of succubi (there's just something about the fiendish for me) it's looking like the real cake's just about to be served. Illustrations of Malcanthet have ranged from the beautiful (FC1 imo) to the truly creepy (Dragon cover I thought) so I'm particularly intrigued to see how she has been depicted this time around.
I'll take this opportunity to send out my thanks to the artists, since this AP has had some truly stunning pieces. My appreciation for the artists involved! But one question, the sketch of the T-Rex pouncing on the shipwreck survivors never saw print (from the ST preview). Please could I find out the answer as to why? That was one picture I would have adored seeing in full colour especially.But to round off, I think that this campaign had to have heaps of cheesecake to counter that harpy. Now that was creeeeepy.
I hear you Brokenbutterfly Tyralandi Is hot, and I was upset as well with that sketch of the T-Rex and the shipwreck not seeing print. That was definately the stronger piece! And as for Harpies,Medusas there supposed to be HOT!!! I hate the look of the harpies with there nasty faces and bat wings, there supposed to look seductive with a sexy torso and oh yeah feathers...but I can deal with that. Same goes for medusae there supposed to be sexy just with a few scales and oh yeah snakes for hair, It's the unique traits In these gals that just drive me Insane lol. Well In my world these creatures are sexy what do you guys/or gals think?
DAvePeruhain of Brithondy |
I think harpies somehow got conflated with sirens in the early stages of the game. Maybe someone is more up on their Homer than I, but as I recall, harpies are just ugly hag-like creatures with wings and nasty tempers, while sirens are much more alluring winged females who have beautiful captivating songs. Odysseus wanted to hear their song so badly he had his crew plug their ears with wax and tie him to the mast, so he could listen but couldn't turn the ship onto the rocks.
I'm sure the ancient Greeks were trying to say something about the dangers of listening to women in inventing these two monsters--the "alluring siren" and the "shrewish harpy" remain common epithets for dangerous and unpleasant women.
BluePigeon |
The only time "Orcus" and "cheesecake" would be found in the same sentence would be if he was shoving another slice of triple fudge caramel ripple down his Abyssal gullet, the fat bastard. That's why he's "Prince of the Undead", and not "Prince of the Unfed".
Hilarious Heirophantasm, but just to let you know, Orcus is my master and he'll be knocking on your doorstep shortly....
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny |
Has anyone noticed that the Savage Tide Adventure Path is shaping up to contain a significant amount of "cheesecake"?
To explain, Serpents of Scuttlecove just came out, and I'm noticing a continuing trend amongst the female NPCs that they are (mostly) all tough and hot...well, er, vixens! (Thank you, Russ Meyer.)
We have, as a running total:
Lavinia Vanderboren (truly the "goodie two-shoes" of the batch)
Rowyn Kellani (my favorite, and the first fiery femme fatale)
Harliss Javell (brassy, raven-haired, and competent beyond most men)
Tyralandi (half-fiend nymph...nuff said)That's not even mentioning other "hotties", like Liamae Teslikaria or Amella Venkalie. Also, we're sure to see the seductive succubi queens, like Shami-Amourae and Malcanthet.
So, what's the deal, Paizo? Are we going to see a "Sasserine Swimsuit Spectacular" on your list of releases? ;-)
C'mon, what's swashbuckling, demon-fighting adventure without hot (if swishy), ass-kicking female characters?
Abyssal Lord |
Tavey's definately a boy. He looks just like Jonathan Taylor Thomas as Tom Sawyer. Of course now that I say that, everyone's probably going to have him eaten by dinosaurs just to erase the image.
I had plans for HIM to be attacked by the T-Rex, but run under a low overhang.
One of my players is then going to ask me why the T-Rex hasn't seized the boy? So I can reply because his head is so big and he has little arms. I love that part of the newest animated movie coming out, it makes me laugh everytime I see it;)
THis brought up an interesting point....throughout history, women masquerade as men to gain position and status they otherwise wouldn't be able to because they lacked a y chormosome. So, in the world of fantasy, why couldn't it be the other way around. I wouldn't be surprised of one of those Drow matrons is really a dude in drag or polymorphed. Then again, it makes up interesting scenarios, he can retain his powers only if he remain in female form...
The possibilities are endless...
Abyssal Lord |
James Jacobs wrote:In other words, there's more to come. Like Malcanthet. Shami-Amourae. Red Shroud. Iggwilv. Orcus.Holy crap! Does this mean someone is finally going to publish stats for Iggwilv? What's next, The Lady of Pain?
Regardless, let it be known that I would shell out the requisite cash for a Savage Tide Swimsuit Issue. For uh... the articles of course.
Oh no!!!!
Once Iggwilv is statted, she will lose her mystique! That is one of the things about Wilva that I like, that aura of mystery.James Jacobs Creative Director |
Oh no!!!!
Once Iggwilv is statted, she will lose her mystique! That is one of the things about Wilva that I like, that aura of mystery.
Yeah, I'm aware of the fact that no stats has been a strength of Iggwilv's mystique for the past 30 years, but at the same time... she's waited long enough. Most every other big Greyhawk villain has stats of some sort out there, so why should Iggwilv be left out? She wants to play too!
Of course... even beyond stats, she'll still have plenty of mysteries.