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Scarab Sages

I need Help I want to play a Dervish guy, but dont know what the best idea for my Sylph and/or my Ifrit some advice ?


Can you be more specific, please?

Dervish of Dawn Bard? Dervish of Dawn Fighter? Dervish Bard? A build that includes the Dervish Dancer feat? (If so, what class?)

Liberty's Edge

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I have a Dervish of Dawn Bard Ifrit. LOTS of fun and high init and damage.

Level 1:

+0 BAB
+4 Dex
+2 Dance

+6 To hit
1D6+6 to damage

Wildfire Racial gives +4 to Init, while giving up the bonus to sorc charisma, Reactionary +2 Init, and +4 Dex. gives an easy +10 to initiative.

Sarenrea Trait, Flame of the Dawnflower, to also give +2 fire damage on a critical hit to add a bit more damage in, and at level 1 your looking at:

+6 1D6+6 18-20/x2+2

Then get Harmonic Spell and Extra Performance feats at level 3 and 1 respectively, and once you get Bladed Dash, you will become a flaming ball of blenderization.

Silver Crusade

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Dawnflower Dervish Bard

Dervish Dancer Bard

Qadira: Dawnflower Dervish Fighter

Dervish Dance Feat

Note that a title for the goddess Saranrae is "The Dawnflower". You won't find that on the Pathfinder SRD anymore, though you can still use it in a search on there.

Scarab Sages

Jason Hanlon wrote:

Can you be more specific, please?

Dervish of Dawn Bard? Dervish of Dawn Fighter? Dervish Bard? A build that includes the Dervish Dancer feat? (If so, what class?)

All option Open. I think to build a Sylph Bard/Magus build and a Ifrit Fighter/Magus I think but really open to idea

Bard (don't see really difference between Dervish of Dawn Bard & Dervish Bard, the first one seem really better)
Magus
Fighter


Dawnflower dervish bard 1 + swashbuckler x is fun.

Scarab Sages

Zach Williams wrote:

I have a Dervish of Dawn Bard Ifrit. LOTS of fun and high init and damage.

Level 1:

+0 BAB
+4 Dex
+2 Dance

+6 To hit
1D6+6 to damage

Wildfire Racial gives +4 to Init, while giving up the bonus to sorc charisma, Reactionary +2 Init, and +4 Dex. gives an easy +10 to initiative.

Sarenrea Trait, Flame of the Dawnflower, to also give +2 fire damage on a critical hit to add a bit more damage in, and at level 1 your looking at:

+6 1D6+6 18-20/x2+2

Then get Harmonic Spell and Extra Performance feats at level 3 and 1 respectively, and once you get Bladed Dash, you will become a flaming ball of blenderization.

Can you give Stats and Level Class progression please, not better to become a Fighter later for more feat and HP ?


Arghan wrote:

All option Open. I think to build a Sylph Bard/Magus build and a Ifrit Fighter/Magus I think but really open to idea

Bard (don't see really difference between Dervish of Dawn Bard & Dervish Bard, the first one seem really better)
Magus
Fighter

If you're just looking to build a dervish dancing magus, that's covered extensively in the magus guides. Check out the Guide to the Guides thread in the advice forum (it's stickied) for the Magus guide entries.

For a Dervish Dancing Bard, I'd say Dervish of Dawn is the best fit. I'd go Sylph on any semi-caster arcane class, soley because of the "Windy Escape" racial spell. Best defensive spell ever.


Arghan wrote:
Zach Williams wrote:

I have a Dervish of Dawn Bard Ifrit. LOTS of fun and high init and damage.

Level 1:

+0 BAB
+4 Dex
+2 Dance

+6 To hit
1D6+6 to damage

Wildfire Racial gives +4 to Init, while giving up the bonus to sorc charisma, Reactionary +2 Init, and +4 Dex. gives an easy +10 to initiative.

Sarenrea Trait, Flame of the Dawnflower, to also give +2 fire damage on a critical hit to add a bit more damage in, and at level 1 your looking at:

+6 1D6+6 18-20/x2+2

Then get Harmonic Spell and Extra Performance feats at level 3 and 1 respectively, and once you get Bladed Dash, you will become a flaming ball of blenderization.

Can you give Stats and Level Class progression please, not better to become a Fighter later for more feat and HP ?

Yeah Zach, I'd like to see your plans too. I'm taking notes.

Seriously, you're in a campaign with my Dervish of Dawn bard and you've never offered to compare builds? FOR SHAME! :p

Silver Crusade

Ifrit swashbuckler / sorcerer (ifrit bloodline) from Qadira. Dervish Dance feat at level 3.

Silver Crusade

Why does everyone in the west dance while they fight?!

A real man just charges on through with the strength of a raging fire!

Grand Lodge

Reiji Nakami wrote:

Why does everyone in the west dance while they fight?!

A real man just charges on through with the strength of a raging fire!

I prefer mysterious as the dark side of the moon. You kill them with fewer injuries to yourself that way.

Silver Crusade

Just a note: Come to my table with a Dervish of the Dawn and I'm going to ask for your additional materials.

Silver Crusade

Kotenbo Tsao wrote:
Reiji Nakami wrote:

Why does everyone in the west dance while they fight?!

A real man just charges on through with the strength of a raging fire!

I prefer mysterious as the dark side of the moon. You kill them with fewer injuries to yourself that way.

Injuries? Bah! I welcome evil to try!

Liberty's Edge

Jason Hanlon wrote:
Arghan wrote:

Can you give Stats and Level Class progression please, not better to become a Fighter later for more feat and HP ?

Yeah Zach, I'd like to see your plans too. I'm taking notes.

Seriously, you're in a campaign with my Dervish of Dawn bard and you've never offered to compare builds? FOR SHAME! :p

STR: 8

DEX: 18
CON: 12
INT: 14
WIS: 8
CHA: 16

BAB: +0

Bonus Feat: Dervish Dance
Level 1: Harmonic Spell
Level 3: Extra Performance
Level 5: Enhanced Arcana

Traits: Flame of the Dawnflower, Reactionary

Spells:
1st Level: (1)Vanish, (1)Feather Step,
2nd Level: (1)Cure Light
3rd Level: (1)Weaponwand
4th Level: (2)Bladed Dash, (2) Allegro
5th Level: (2)Versatile Weapon, (2)Cats Grace

Weapon at 5th Level: Cats Grace + Allegro + Dance
+1 Keened Scimitar +15/+15 1D6+11 15-20/x2+2

Using Harmonic Spell from Inner Sea World Guide, she will basically dance in and out of invisibility, getting free rounds of bardic performance, around the enemy so it is doubtful she will get a full attack unless the enemy is not focusing on her.

Grand Lodge

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Reiji Nakami wrote:

Why does everyone in the west dance while they fight?!

A real man just charges on through with the strength of a raging fire!

False.

Lets get down to business. Dervishes are middle eastern. By my understanding they are a kind of Muslim mystic. Similar to the charismatic or Pentecostal Christian. The whirling dance is a form of worship to the Sufi Dervishes.(says the theology major, with the force of a great typhoon!).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dervish

Silver Crusade

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Janzbane wrote:
Reiji Nakami wrote:

Why does everyone in the west dance while they fight?!

A real man just charges on through with the strength of a raging fire!

False.

Lets get down to business. Dervishes are middle eastern. By my understanding they are a kind of Muslim mystic. Similar to the charismatic or Pentecostal Christian. The whirling dance is a form of worship to the Sufi Dervishes.(says the theology major, with the force of a great typhoon!).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dervish

I am speaking of the west in relation to Tian, Good Sir! For some reason, it seems like half the people I hear of in the Pathfinder Society have taken up this strange battle-dancing. It perplexes me, as I don't remember Sensei Farabellus ever covering such material in his lessons!

As for the lands and religion you describe, I don't even know what half those words you have used mean. You seem to be speaking perhaps of the Keleshite Empire and the worship of Sarenrae? That still confuses me as I see all kinds of these "dervishes" that do not appear to be from that mysterious land.


Janzbane wrote:
Lets get down to business
Kotenbo Tsao wrote:
mysterious as the dark side of the moon.

Someday I'll... make a maaan... out of youuuuuu...

EDIT: Hey, I think I just found the guy teaching those dancing Tian Martials! :D

Silver Crusade

Jason Hanlon wrote:
Janzbane wrote:
Lets get down to business
Kotenbo Tsao wrote:
mysterious as the dark side of the moon.

Someday I'll... make a maaan... out of youuuuuu...

EDIT: Hey, I think I just found the guy teaching those dancing Tian Martials! :D

By Hei Feng's lightning! And he even sings about manliness when he does it!?

I shall have to seek out this training facility when I return to Tian and convert them the true techniques of the School of the Undefeated of the East!

Silver Crusade

Just started a similar concept...Paladin based

Dancing 11 rounds per day - yields a +10 to hit, 1d6 +7 / 18-20/x2
If I do non lethal, I add +1 more damage and can intimidate to cause shakened for essentially the battle plus can cause frightened on a crit.
Also flagbearer still helps the group.
Blade of Mercy lets me do non lethal without penalty.
Just one level of bard and paladin the rest. No archtypes
Because you are dex based, keep putting skill points into escape artist so you can use Liberating Command if grappled as your CMB will be low.

Fax Malchaera
Male Ifrit Bard 1/Paladin 2
LG medium humanoid
Init +4 Senses Darkvision (60) Listen -3 Spot -3
DEFENSE
AC 19, touch 14, flat-footed 15
hp 23
Fort 7 ,Ref 10 ,Will 6
OFFENSE
Speed 30 ft
Melee Masterwork Iron, Cold Scimitar +7 (1d6+4/18-20/x2)
Ranged Masterwork Longbow, composite (+1) +7 (1d8+1/x3)
Special Attacks Smite Evil
Space 5 Reach 5
STATISTICS
STR 13 DEX 18 CON 11 INT 10 WIS 5 CHA 18
Base Atk 2
Feats Flagbearer, Enforcer
Traits: Blade of Mercy, Maestro of Society
Skills Acrobatics +7, Diplomacy +8, Escape Artist +8, Intimidate +10, Use Magic Device +8, Acrobatics +7, Diplomacy +8, Escape Artist +8, Intimidate +10
Languages Common, Ignan
Gear Masterwork Iron - Cold Scimitar, Masterwork Longbow - composite (+1), Scimitar, Longspear, Arrow - Flight (20), Backpack - masterwork , Whetstone, Weapon cord, Air crystals, Alkali flask (2), Holy Water (flask), Everburning torch, Wand of Cure Light Wounds (50 charges), Wand of Bless Weapon (50 charges)


Cool build - but Liberating Command is not usable on yourself. It's an immediate action to use it, and it's also an immediate action to escape, but you cannot use two immediate actions in the same round.

Scarab Sages

Derwalt wrote:
Cool build - but Liberating Command is not usable on yourself. It's an immediate action to use it, and it's also an immediate action to escape, but you cannot use two immediate actions in the same round.

Interesting...I had not considered or seen that.


I second an Ifrit Dawnflower dervish bard.

Scarab Sages

BigNorseWolf wrote:
Dawnflower dervish bard 1 + swashbuckler x is fun.

So is Dawnflower dervish + urban barbarian - nothing like cool rage for dex - uncanny dodge is also nice

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