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Now the votes stand at:

Prett 6

Logue 10,875

Greg 5

James Jacobs 2

Wolfgang Baur 10,001

G 3


Ten thousand votes for Logue? I suspect foul play!

(He should have at least twenty thousand.)

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terrainmonkey wrote:

well, i didn't know wolfgang baur was up for votes. in that case, i'll vote 10,000 times for him. 5 years later and i still have players telling me the Ghoul King adventure was the best ever written. by the way, mr. baur, how's that sequel coming?

need any help with that? :)

nicholas-- don't get me wrong, your adventure was tops in my book but i have a party of hackenslashers and they wouldn't like it. i've run murder mysteries before that were great fun, and this one looks excellent. didn't mean to make you cry there, sir. good work.

Thanks terrain! My tears are abated. I have a couple proposals in the fire that will definately suit your current party better. Here's hoping! ;-)

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Jonathan Drain wrote:

Ten thousand votes for Logue? I suspect foul play!

(He should have at least twenty thousand.)

You're right Jonathan! I'll check my count again...

Right-O sir!

Logue 20,456 is my actual tally. Good catch Messr Drain.

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Jonathan Drain wrote:

Ten thousand votes for Logue? I suspect foul play!

(He should have at least twenty thousand.)

Tcha!

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Great Green God wrote:

Now the votes stand at:

Prett 6

Logue 10,875

Greg 5

James Jacobs 2

Wolfgang Baur 10,001

G 3

I'd like a recount on that Logue score...

I don't see how Vaughn has got 5 when he hasn't even got an adventure in - it's just outrageous...

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Richard Pett wrote:
Great Green God wrote:

Now the votes stand at:

Prett 6

Logue 10,875

Greg 5

James Jacobs 2

Wolfgang Baur 10,001

G 3

I'd like a recount on that Logue score...

I don't see how Vaughn has got 5 when he hasn't even got an adventure in - it's just outrageous...

Yeah, it would be pretty sad if he beat you without even having an adventure in the issue...just sad.

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Richard Pett wrote:
Great Green God wrote:

Now the votes stand at:

Prett 6

Logue 10,875

Greg 5

James Jacobs 2

Wolfgang Baur 10,001

G 3

I'd like a recount on that Logue score...

I don't see how Vaughn has got 5 when he hasn't even got an adventure in - it's just outrageous...

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ah but I recall a previous contest with a similar result for her majesty:)

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and stop copying my shape-changed roper xorn avatar.

Liberty's Edge

"Hey Vasquez, has anyone ever mistaken you for a man?"
"No, Bishop. Has anyone ever mistaken you for one?"
onnyhoo...

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Heathansson wrote:

"Hey Vasquez, has anyone ever mistaken you for a man?"

"No, Bishop. Has anyone ever mistaken you for one?"
onnyhoo...

Ehem...That'd be "No, HUDSON. Has anyone ever mistaken you for one."

Heath's nerdometer just dropped drastically.

Liberty's Edge

"Look into my eye."

Liberty's Edge

So the Sea Wyvern's Wake has arrived, and I've read it, and now I feel sad. I don't know when the next brilliant descent into madness from Richard Pett is coming out.
Please, sir! More Styes!!!

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Heathansson wrote:

So the Sea Wyvern's Wake has arrived, and I've read it, and now I feel sad. I don't know when the next brilliant descent into madness from Richard Pett is coming out.

Please, sir! More Styes!!!

Stout yeoman:)

Liberty's Edge

Nicolas Logue wrote:
Do you ever hit the open gaming at "Other Realms" on Monday nights in Ward Warehouse Jason? I try to go sometimes, but recently I've had rehearsals and haven't been able to make it out. We'll have to get a game together of Paizo-heads sometime soon. That would rock! Shoot me an email and we'll see if we can't arrange something.

That shop is awesome! My work took me to Hawaii back in February and in a fortnight I managed to visit twice. It might just be the best games store I've ever been to (and also very friendly. Unfortunately, I was visiting volcanoes on the games night).

Ukos

PS: I register a vote for Sea Wyvern's Wake; haven't read that "adventure" by Logue yet, but us Brits have to stick together, pip pip, dib dib dib, and all that! Long live her Majesty! U

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Ukos wrote:


Ukos

PS: I register a vote for Sea Wyvern's Wake; haven't read that "adventure" by Logue yet, but us Brits have to stick together, pip pip, dib dib dib, and all that! Long live her Majesty! U

Tally ho! Pip, skip and bob's your uncle. Huzzah for her majesty and her corgis!

Adventure is a very charitable descrption - outrageous piece of slander aimed at my beloved old friend Vaughn more like!

Rich


Is it over yet.... I think I feel ill.

GGG

Liberty's Edge

Not yet...I haven't finished Sortuva Draggin' Slacker yet.


"Mom can we get off this ride? It's scary."

"Don't worry dear, it's almost next month and look, they haven't even put cover up yet."

"Yeah! Mom can I vote for Jonathan Richards?"

"Sure you can dear."

Something I overheard somewhere...
GGG

Liberty's Edge

FINALLY got issue 141 last night ... the suspense has been killing me.

Now I just hope all this discussion hasn't built up my expectations too high .... those two adventures had better be pretty darn good!

Liberty's Edge

I read The Sea Wyvern's Wake and The Swords of Dragonslake over the weekend - and - expectations met! Both very enjoyable adventures to read (and im sure to DM ... eventually).

Mr Pett, well done on turning what could be a very "quick" journey (ok, you sail south for three months, until one evening a storm brews up...) or a very boring one (day 3, no encounter in the morning .... no encounter in the afternoon ... however, that evening your ship is attacked by 1d8 Sahuagin) and turning it into an engaging adventure with some interesting NPCs, a variety of encounters and one very cool / creepy one at Journey's End - I DO like the Aliens "theme"... Oh, and all those Stye's references, who knew there was such trade between Sasserine and the Styes! Out of interest, in your campaign is the Styes a town in its own right, or part of a larger city?

Mr Logue, really enjoyed the Swords of Dragonslake too, its great to see a "roleplaying" and/or investigation adventure at a higher level (rather than being relagated to levels 1-3 as normal). I think my group will really get into this one when we have a chance to play it. Also liked the sort of moral ambiguities presented ... sure Isadora and Janton are evil, and doing a Very Bad Thing, but how will my players react to what happened 13 years ago....? and who will they side with?

And the two most famous actors in Talantier? Priceless....
One question, what's the theatrical superstition about the number 8? (13 I get more) - or is this simply an editorial ... erm, error on the Night Raven map legend?


hehe it is not nice to confuse the Efretti; how can I cause gentle strife and semi warm arguements if I haven't a clue?
:)
Are we discussing whose adventure is better between two posted adventures; I mean really, a thread to discuss another thread about some abscure adventure. Adventures are all gm interpretation; I have seen several gms run the same adventure with very different results so, any discussion about which adventure is better is all obsequious to me.

Are we discussing nationality? Or who historically have been our nations freinds? I have only good things to say about Canada and mostly positive things to say about England, I dont believe in the concept of Great Britian. And, if your a Democrat in America, you probably haven't had an original idea in decades; if your a Republican; you probably need to stand in front of a mirror and stare for a long time to see if you have a soul. If your Green Party; you need an effective plan and maybe some visability; if your....hehe you get the idea. But wait, if your French then......#^%$@*&%^%$$; heeh, individual French persons are cool; but geez, get them in a group and their brains dribble out their head replaced by the dreaded group mind.

We in the U.S are not melting pot no matter what JFK said; we are more like a salad bar; take what you want; leave the rest, their is some good with the some bad, with the something else and most peeps get upset if the carrots stray into the chick peas and the brocoli always looks uncomfortable next to the supremist califlower.

hehe, are we talking about something yet? my avatar doesnt have any flames on it so i am just pretty luke warm about all of this.

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Mothman wrote:

I read The Sea Wyvern's Wake and The Swords of Dragonslake over the weekend - and - expectations met! Both very enjoyable adventures to read (and im sure to DM ... eventually).

Mr Pett, well done on turning what could be a very "quick" journey (ok, you sail south for three months, until one evening a storm brews up...) or a very boring one (day 3, no encounter in the morning .... no encounter in the afternoon ... however, that evening your ship is attacked by 1d8 Sahuagin) and turning it into an engaging adventure with some interesting NPCs, a variety of encounters and one very cool / creepy one at Journey's End - I DO like the Aliens "theme"... Oh, and all those Stye's references, who knew there was such trade between Sasserine and the Styes! Out of interest, in your campaign is the Styes a town in its own right, or part of a larger city?

Hey Mothman,

cheers for that!

The Styes is one of several districts within the main city which form the backrop to the campaign. Three distinct, more tropical locations are also part of the adventure path. Action in the campaign is presently taking place in Festival Town, which is a pretty unique place:)

Rich


Well, I've been trying to stay out of it since my fine discussion on pidgin with Mr. Logue. I also took my sweet time reading the adventures so I wasn't really ready to commit.

However.

I love Hawaii for it's culture and it's physical beauty. England has some great folks, but most of my impressions are dominated by stuffy restaurants with 13 pieces of silverware while it's cold and rainy outside. So based on the geographical origin of the authors: Dragonslake all the way.

However.

I'm a sailor and not a drama guy. Sure there's rigging for the theater too, but it just isn't quite the same as on a moving ship. So Mr. Pett had to meet some pretty high requirements for accuracy in his story. And by and large he cleared the bar with no trouble at all. As others have said the plot was varied and interesting and provided many nautical opportunities for me to play with. So in terms of story: Sea Wyvern's Wake all the way.

However.

Are we really supposed to be judging adventure design and writing here? In that case you guys are both out of my league. It's a complete tie.

Sorry Nick. Ships are the way to my heart.

"I must down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,
To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;
And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover
And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over."


Great Green God wrote:

Now the votes stand at:

Prett 9

Rogue 10,875

Greg 5

James Jacobs 2

Wolfgang Baur 10,001

G 3

Updated! I feel Prett-y, oh so Prett-y!

If we are marked to die, we are enough to do our country loss; and if to live, the fewer men, the greater share of honour.

Callum.

PS. Who's this G pulling past James Jacobs in the home stretch?!


Callum wrote:


PS. Who's this G pulling past James Jacobs in the home stretch?!

You'll have to wait for issue 142 to find out. I'm sort of on pins and needles myself, though somehow I doubt I will ever maintain a lead against James "I've been doing this for how long?" Jacobs. Besides he probably had a hand in the editing.

G 3

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Eltanin wrote:

Sorry Nick. Ships are the way to my heart.

"I must down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,
To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;
And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover
And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over."

NOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo!

Ah, well. I forgive ya Eltanin. ;-)

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Eltanin wrote:
England has some great folks, but most of my impressions are dominated by stuffy restaurants with 13 pieces of silverware while it's cold and rainy outside.

Yeah, my local greasy spoon is just like that. :-P

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Aubrey the Malformed wrote:
Eltanin wrote:
England has some great folks, but most of my impressions are dominated by stuffy restaurants with 13 pieces of silverware while it's cold and rainy outside.
Yeah, my local greasy spoon is just like that. :-P

Nice to see the use of the phrase 'my local greasy spoon' on these boards:)

And how can one not have 13 peices of silverware - how does one eat ones kegeree without a special fork? Pish - I expect Logue is the sort of oafish cad who uses the same knife for his fricandeau of beef and his stewed kidneys....

And anyway, it's not raining now...oh, it transpires that it may be....

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or his demitasse from his pudding spoon...

Liberty's Edge

Hee hee!
Whenever I eats with all those fancy pantses with the 18 forks, I just hangs back and then uses whatever fork they're using, and chews with me mouth shut.
It's not that hard.

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or his charger plate from his erm...fork.

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Heathansson wrote:

Hee hee!

Whenever I eats with all those fancy pantses with the 18 forks, I just hangs back and then uses whatever fork they're using, and chews with me mouth shut.
It's not that hard.

It is for Logue, he's only just off rusks:)


Nicolas Logue wrote:
Heathansson wrote:

"Hey Vasquez, has anyone ever mistaken you for a man?"

"No, Bishop. Has anyone ever mistaken you for one?"
onnyhoo...

Ehem...That'd be "No, HUDSON. Has anyone ever mistaken you for one."

Heath's nerdometer just dropped drastically.

Both fail. It's:

Hudson: "Hey, Vasquez, have you ever been mistaken for a man?"
Vasquez: "No. Have you?"

I think this thread needs to be nuked from orbit. Only way to be sure.

Liberty's Edge

Thou, nature, art my goddess,
To thy law my services are bound.
Wherefore, shall I stand in the plague of custom,
And permit the curiosity of nations to deprive me
for that I am some 12 or 14 moonshines lag of a brother?
Bastardy? Base? Base?
Who in the lusty stealth of night taketh more fire
and fierce composition
Than doth, within a dull, stale, tired bed go to the creation of an entire tribe of fops got tween sleep and wake?
Well, my legitemate, if this letter speed and my plan doth thrive, then Edmund the base shall top the legitemate!
I grow, I prosper,
Now, gods, stand up for bastards!


Heathansson wrote:

Thou, nature, art my goddess,

To thy law my services are bound.
Wherefore, shall I stand in the plague of custom,
And permit the curiosity of nations to deprive me
for that I am some 12 or 14 moonshines lag of a brother?
Bastardy? Base? Base?
Who in the lusty stealth of night taketh more fire
and fierce composition
Than doth, within a dull, stale, tired bed go to the creation of an entire tribe of fops got tween sleep and wake?
Well, my legitemate, if this letter speed and my plan doth thrive, then Edmund the base shall top the legitemate!
I grow, I prosper,
Now, gods, stand up for bastards!

You call Glouchester?

Oh. It's you again.... Next time, tell the bard you got this from to capitalize 'Nature.' I don't wanna take a back seat to that Fortune character.

;)
GGG

Liberty's Edge

But Machiavelli said fortune is a lady, and she favors the bold.

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Heathansson wrote:

Thou, nature, art my goddess,

To thy law my services are bound.
Wherefore, shall I stand in the plague of custom,
And permit the curiosity of nations to deprive me
for that I am some 12 or 14 moonshines lag of a brother?
Bastardy? Base? Base?
Who in the lusty stealth of night taketh more fire
and fierce composition
Than doth, within a dull, stale, tired bed go to the creation of an entire tribe of fops got tween sleep and wake?
Well, my legitemate, if this letter speed and my plan doth thrive, then Edmund the base shall top the legitemate!
I grow, I prosper,
Now, gods, stand up for bastards!

Lear.

Not my favorite Edmund speech, but a good one. Here's the one I like best:

"This is the excellent foppery of the world, that,
when we are sick in fortune, often the surfeit
of our own behavior, we make guilty of our
disasters, the sun, the moon and the stars: as
if we were villians by necessity; fools by
heavenly compulsion; knaves, thieves, and
treachers, by spherical predominance; drunkards,
liars, and adulterers, by an enforced obediance of
planetary influence; and all that we are evil in,
by a divine thrusting on. An admirable evasion
of whoremaster man, to lay his goatish
disposition to the charge of a star!
My father compounded with my mother under the
dragon's tail; and my nativity was under Ursa
Major; so that it follows, I am rough
and lecherous. Fut, I should have been that I am,
had the maidenliest star in the firmament
twinkled on my bastardizing."

Ha! I love it! Astrology both validated and debunked in a grand soliloquy on his own villainy! Edmund. Lear. Good stuff.

I played Kent in the last production of Lear I was a part of. Kent is my favorite. I was so happy when I was cast.

Of course I was only two years old at the time. ;-)

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Krypter wrote:
Nicolas Logue wrote:
Heathansson wrote:

"Hey Vasquez, has anyone ever mistaken you for a man?"

"No, Bishop. Has anyone ever mistaken you for one?"
onnyhoo...

Ehem...That'd be "No, HUDSON. Has anyone ever mistaken you for one."

Heath's nerdometer just dropped drastically.

Both fail. It's:

Hudson: "Hey, Vasquez, have you ever been mistaken for a man?"
Vasquez: "No. Have you?"

I think this thread needs to be nuked from orbit. Only way to be sure.

My Bard is stronger than my Alien-fu! Curses! I typed too quickly in an attempt to clarify who Vasquez was speaking to. I accept the penalty to my nerd-o-meter. I shall ruminate on my error and punish myself for misquoting a modern classic. Thank you Krypter for bringing this to my attention.

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Oh yeah, and to Prett, here is my offering from King Lear, a little speech by Edgar...you know the hero and rightful son...to Edmund, the bastard (that's you Prett).

"Draw thy sword,
That, if my speech offend a noble heart,
Thy arm may do thee justice: here is mine.
Behold, it is the privilege of mine honours,
My oath, and my profession: I protest,
Maugre thy strength, place, youth, and eminence,
Despite thy victor sword and fire-new fortune,
Thy valour and thy heart, thou art a traitor;
False to thy gods, thy brother, and thy father;
Conspirant 'gainst this high-illustrious prince;
And, from the extremest upward of thy head
To the descent and dust below thy foot,
A most toad-spotted traitor. Say thou no,
This sword, this arm, and my best spirits, are bent
To prove upon thy heart, whereto I speak,
Thou liest."

Take it Prett! I PWN you with your own culture! Take it!

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Out, vile jelly!


Finally Dungeon #141 arrived at my FLGS (3 weeks late) and here I find that Mr. Logue has allowed his Pett-y rivalries to spill over into his adventure writing. "Gregor Vane" is merely "snide", whereas "Rikard Prett" has a "remarkable talent for" "pathological lying" and "deludes himself into believing his own performances". Mr. Pett could easily have named "Avner Meravanchi" something like "Nico Logavanchi", but he took the high road and I think his adventure is the better for it.
-LB

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LurkerBeneath wrote:

Finally Dungeon #141 arrived at my FLGS (3 weeks late) and here I find that Mr. Logue has allowed his Pett-y rivalries to spill over into his adventure writing. "Gregor Vane" is merely "snide", whereas "Rikard Prett" has a "remarkable talent for" "pathological lying" and "deludes himself into believing his own performances". Mr. Pett could easily have named "Avner Meravanchi" something like "Nico Logavanchi", but he took the high road and I think his adventure is the better for it.

-LB

I wish he'd name an NPC after me!!!

Hey dude, I made him an 18th level expert. That's pretty freakin awesome. You don't even want to see Gregor Vane's stats...


Nicolas Logue wrote:

I played Kent in the last production of Lear I was a part of. Kent is my favorite. I was so happy when I was cast.

Of course I was only two years old at the time. ;-)

Fellow, I know thee...a knave; a rascal; an eater of broken meats; a base, proud, shallow, beggarly, three-suited, hundred-pound, filthy, worsted-stocking knave; a lily-livered, action-taking knave, a whoreson, glass-gazing, super-serviceable finical rogue; one-trunk-inheriting slave; one that wouldst be a bawd, in way of good service, and art nothing but the composition of a knave, beggar, coward, pandar, and the son and heir of a mongrel b%@%%: one whom I will beat into clamorous whining, if thou deniest the least syllable of thy addition.

Kent is my favourite, too! I started with Edgar, but graduated to Kent. Part of his appeal is that you get to choose which accent to borrow for his disguise - I found that a Yorkshire accent makes many of his lines ring particularly well...


Nicolas Logue wrote:


My father compounded with my mother under the
dragon's tail; and my nativity was under Ursa
Major; so that it follows, I am rough
and lecherous.

Hey! You're talking about my neck of the woods! Good ol' Draco the dragon. In which there lies a certain star named Eltanin. Does this mean that I'm rough and lecherous? That'd be nifty.

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Nicolas Logue wrote:


I wish he'd name an NPC after me!!!

>)

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LurkerBeneath wrote:

Finally Dungeon #141 arrived at my FLGS (3 weeks late) and here I find that Mr. Logue has allowed his Pett-y rivalries to spill over into his adventure writing. "Gregor Vane" is merely "snide", whereas "Rikard Prett" has a "remarkable talent for" "pathological lying" and "deludes himself into believing his own performances". Mr. Pett could easily have named "Avner Meravanchi" something like "Nico Logavanchi", but he took the high road and I think his adventure is the better for it.

-LB

Victory belongs to the most persevering.

Huzzah! Lurker Beneath draws the contest to a close with victory for her majesty! God save the queen, and the fas...damn, wrong version...

Rich


Eltanin wrote:
Nicolas Logue wrote:


My father compounded with my mother under the
dragon's tail; and my nativity was under Ursa
Major; so that it follows, I am rough
and lecherous.
Hey! You're talking about my neck of the woods! Good ol' Draco the dragon. In which there lies a certain star named Eltanin. Does this mean that I'm rough and lecherous? That'd be nifty.

Hey! Get back to reading Dungeon 142!

;)
G-cube


Great Green God wrote:


Hey! Get back to reading Dungeon 142!

;)
G-cube

Man, I finished reading the important part ages ago. I.e. a certain masterpiece about dreams and cultists of Zargon. 9.5/10 GGG. I only leave off the .5 because there's always room for improvement. Great work. Keep 'em coming!

I'm on to Jason's little work of art. Man, that guy is mean. There are some nasty little encounters in there.

Oh! Sorry. This thread was supposed to be about Dungeon 141. I'm already in the future!

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