Dragonmarks and the lack thereof


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O learned sages of Eberron, hearken!

Suppose someone had his dragonmark peeled off from his back and then raised (or simply survived the unpleasent experience), would he still be able to use his magic or would it be forever lost to him?


First of all...freakin' ouch. Is some sadist trying to make a dragonmarked tapestry? Eek.

Anyway, here is how I would rule it - mind you, I do not run an Eberron campaign nor do I consider myself an Eberron expert, so this is all my opinion. Dragonmarked heirs go beyond mere flesh and bone and no removal of said flesh will destroy that connection. Eventually, the dragonmarks will reappear on the flesh.

Again, my opinion.


Anyone remember Grafts? Fiends, Aboleth, and Illithids are all capable of playing Frankenstein. Why couldn't some Daelkyr take off a Dragonmark and put it on whatever creature they wanted?

Ooh... I like this idea...


****SPOLIER FOR KEITH BAKERS NOVAL AHEAD (Cant remember its name)********

In Keith bakers novel a mind flayer does this to a Halfling with the mark of healing. It killed the halfling. or perhaps the halfling was dead when he did it. I cant remember. Its good though.

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Lilith wrote:

First of all...freakin' ouch. Is some sadist trying to make a dragonmarked tapestry? Eek.

Hey Lilith, can I pitch that to Dungeon, or were you going to use it? I'm being serious. Thanks!

-Amber S.


Lilith wrote:
First of all...freakin' ouch. Is some sadist trying to make a dragonmarked tapestry? Eek.

Far, far worse... And no this question has no connection whatsoever to my upcoming adventure :)

So you folks think, that a dragonmark is not the source of the nagic but rather the expression of it? An interesting notion...

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Since a character has to spend a feat to get dragonmarked powers, they should not lose the effects of that feat if their dragonmark is "stolen" from them. The dragonmark powers remain in you even if your mark is removed; the mark might even surface on its own accord elsewhere on your body.

This is not to say that some powerful magical effect can't come into being that can steal or surpress dragonmarks. It's just not enogh, I think, to just be able to cancel the feat (or feats) out by simply physically removing the mark.


This has been asked on the Eberron boards over at WotC. The answer from Keith Baker was pretty much the same as what James Jacobs said above, esp. about the mark reemerging elsewhere.


James Jacobs wrote:

the mark might even surface on its own accord elsewhere on your body.

I see, so the mark is an expression of a certain innate quality rather than the source of the quality. Makes sense.


Medesha wrote:


Hey Lilith, can I pitch that to Dungeon, or were you going to use it? I'm being serious. Thanks!

-Amber S.

Well, in a way I am using it... but I think our ideas are different enough for Dungeon to accept both.


Medesha wrote:
Lilith wrote:

First of all...freakin' ouch. Is some sadist trying to make a dragonmarked tapestry? Eek.

Hey Lilith, can I pitch that to Dungeon, or were you going to use it? I'm being serious. Thanks!

-Amber S.

Go for it! Feel free to make a sadist who likes wallhangings. :D

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Uri Kurlianchik wrote:
Well, in a way I am using it... but I think our ideas are different enough for Dungeon to accept both.

Ahh, I thought you were asking as a DM. My bad.

-Amber S.


Medesha wrote:
Uri Kurlianchik wrote:
Well, in a way I am using it... but I think our ideas are different enough for Dungeon to accept both.

Ahh, I thought you were asking as a DM. My bad.

-Amber S.

Oh no, my players wouldn't let me run an Eberron campagin. They are old school purists (which stands somewhat like a contradiction to the fact that they play a group of run-of-the-mill Orcs who raid humans and fight for honor.)

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