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Saern wrote:
Lenarior wrote:
I sugest you guys go ask the wizards for advise.

Just as long as they don't live on the Coast.

"So uhm, any advice?"

"EAT s@%& AND DIE, AND LIKE IT BECAUSE I SAY SO! That'll be 20gp."

Last time I checked only tiefling warlocks live on the coast. And they eat gnomes!


James Keegan wrote:
And what kind of person frequents Cute Overload, exactly?

Um, me?

*looks around*

Is that bad?

;-)

Liberty's Edge

I never heard of no Cute Overload, but I like it.
They have a koalathon.

Liberty's Edge

What? It makes me happy for a minute or two.


They generally do top-notch work with bunny rabbits, too. The kittens and puppies are easy. What I appreciate is that Cute Overload takes the effort to include cute moose and hedgehogs.

Oh yeah, I just remembered, based on a reference I saw from his web site, I think Neil Gaiman checks it out, too.

Liberty's Edge

I'm still tough.

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Trey wrote:
James Keegan wrote:
And what kind of person frequents Cute Overload, exactly?

Um, me?

*looks around*

Is that bad?

;-)

Me too. My wife and I check it every day. That and http://icanhascheezburger.com/ and http://ihasahotdog.com/.

Liberty's Edge

Little piglet, got green boots on...

The Exchange

Man up, pussies, this is a rant thread for Christ's sake!

Dark Archive

People bug me.

Some of them, all the time. All of them, some of the time.

Even when they don't bug me, I end up thinking of how they will, or how they have in the past, or how I'm never going to see them again and the next time I'm in that location/situation, the person that replaced them is going to bug me.

I want my own planet. And maybe some ponies, if Sebastian hasn't taken them all.

Liberty's Edge

crosswiredmind wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
And during a re-enactment of the Battle of...

MAKE IT STOP ... MAKE IT STOP

I went into a laughing fit. Riled up the dog. Laughed so hard I was crying. Wiped my eyes and forgot I had Goldbond anti itch cream on them. Now my eyes sting. That made me forget about the mosquito bite, so that's good.

You and your friends need to spin this into a movie deal. Way too f!*~ing funny.

Anger is funny!

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Fake Healer wrote:

Man up, pussies, this is a rant thread for Christ's sake!

GRRRRRRRRRRR! I hate kittens ... kinda ... well ugly ones anyway ... unless they make cute mewing noises ... OK OK I LIKE KITTENS!

So sue me.


Grr... People hating on cute fuzzy animal baby talk make me mad!!

I'm going to go bench press my car, using hate fuelled by my kitteh-powered rage!

Raaar!!!!!!

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Grumpy Trey wrote:

Grr... People hating on cute fuzzy animal baby talk make me mad!!

I'm going to go bench press my car, using hate fuelled by my kitteh-powered rage!

Raaar!!!!!!

Don't forget to listen to some Slipknot while doing that stuff....

Liberty's Edge

Or Barry Manilow.


I've just been overloaded on cute. It's not even the pictures, it's the captions that get me.

But, hey, no hard feelings. I'll even see if I can steal copies when they get back from the printer. I bet they would look great next to your Hello Kitty Lite Brite sets and your Bratz lunch boxes.

C'mon, Heathansson. I thought Texans shoot things like the creatures on Cute Overload, purely out of malice.


I guess I'm just mad that they didn't take my "365 Plane Crashes" calendar idea.

Liberty's Edge

James Keegan wrote:

I've just been overloaded on cute. It's not even the pictures, it's the captions that get me.

But, hey, no hard feelings. I'll even see if I can steal copies when they get back from the printer. I bet they would look great next to your Hello Kitty Lite Brite sets and your Bratz lunch boxes.

C'mon, Heathansson. I thought Texans shoot things like the creatures on Cute Overload, purely out of malice.

I like looking at it now.

It makes me smile.
Dogs. Doing stuff.


All right. This has been too long coming. Some things just cannot be endured.

Sebastian has his own thread where people worship him.

WHAT

THE

F%&$?

SERIOUSLY.

Isn't there a Biblical prophecy about this heralding the end of days or something?

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Saern wrote:

All right. This has been too long coming. Some things just cannot be endured.

Sebastian has his own thread where people worship him.

WHAT

THE

f~@~?

SERIOUSLY.

Isn't there a Biblical prophecy about this heralding the end of days or something?

Sebastian is cool, don't be hatin'! ;P

Liberty's Edge

If something bothers you, go to Cute Overload and look at bunnies for a while.
Works for me...

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The accusation that WotC is just "out to make money" by doing X, Y, or Z is getting really old really fast.

Of course they are. No company starts up thinking "we should just break even" or "let's take a loss". Companies that do not plan carefully and maximize their profits GO OUT OF BUSINESS!

Companies that try to turn a profit - and as large a profit as possible - are not evil unless they are actually doing harm and profiting from it, or they are unethical in their business dealings.

WotC is not causing harm and they are not in violation of any business code of ethics.

I cannot believe that gamers are actually complaining that they have to buy more books. My God people - just look at your shelves! I bet they are stacked with game books. I bet there at least 5 to 10 books that you know are coming out soon and you know that you MUST have them.

If you do not want to buy PHB2 or Martial Powers splat book then don't buy them, but don't blame WotC for trying to run a successful business - no one tries to run an unsuccessful one.


I think Andy Rooney needs to be stopped. Every week at the end of 60 Minutes he delivers a segment about food and what is in food. That's it.

It always starts with him sitting at a desk full of boxes of food. Then he talks about what's on the label and what the heck that means (guess what: Andy doesn't know and he sure as hell isn't going to Google it) . How everything we eat is fake or artificially flavored. Oh my god, the address for the milk company doesn't have cows living there. How funny.

Every week. And he talks about Honey Nut Cheerios like it's a new thing. Andy Rooney, like Billy Pilgrim from Slaughterhouse Five, has become unstuck in time. Or, he can't come up with anything new and CBS doesn't have to heart to just fire him.

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crosswiredmind wrote:
...don't blame WotC for trying to run a successful business - no one tries to run an unsuccessful one.

That's why my ostrich farm didn't work out...!


James Keegan wrote:
I guess I'm just mad that they didn't take my "365 Plane Crashes" calendar idea.

Have you seen the Science of Sleep?

Shiny, those tourism stories were most excellent.

Keegs, Trey, I cannot be cute overloaded. Rule Kittennia!

Dark Archive

RANT TIME!!!

1) PC's who play Drow and make them all Goth an/or Whore-y
2) People who get really, really upset about FICTIONAL Characters dying.
3) People who go out to eat and are F%^$ing drama queens about it.
Lady: I ordered my steak medium and this is medium rare! Either you fix it AND buy my entire tables food or I am going to act like a 5 year old!!!
Me: Right away ma'am...but one question.
Lady: What??
Me: Have you ever seen the movie "Waiting"?
4) People who didn't get that reference annoy me. Rent it, watch it and then you'll see why you don't piss off the people who make your food.
5) PC's who never think before they act.
Me: There are 10 goblins right in front of you, what do you do?
PC: I jump right in the middle of them and go to town!!
Me: Okay, jumping is move action attack is standard...you kill one..the other nine go to won on YOU and kill you. NEXT!!!!
6) DM's who are out to "win the game". They need to have their books burned.

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Mac Boyce wrote:
Me: Have you ever seen the movie "Waiting"?

I often warn friends about that as I worked for a few years as a busboy and waiter and I saw some bad stuff...


Mac Boyce wrote:


3) People who go out to eat and are F%^$ing drama queens about it.
Lady: I ordered my steak medium and this is medium rare! Either you fix it AND buy my entire tables food or I am going to act like a 5 year old!!!
Me: Right away ma'am...but one question.
Lady: What??
Me: Have you ever seen the movie "Waiting"?
4) People who didn't get that reference annoy me. Rent it, watch it and then you'll see why you don't piss off the people who make your food.

While I haven't actually, *seen* "Waiting", I understand the reference. I think these people actually believe that everyone cooking at any restaurant went to some "Iron Chef" french culinary academy to get their job at Outback and that all wait staffers went to some Miss Manners University for the Domestic Servant rather than being some college kid trying to make ends meet. They all deserve lugies and floordrops as part of their meals. Social Darwinism to me. If you're an a55, you should be treated as such.

Dark Archive

My personal favorite is when they demand we get fired for cooking their food incorrectly. When the GM of the restaurant comes back and tells us that, he sets the food down and turns his back to it.

*evil grin*


The Jade wrote:
James Keegan wrote:
I guess I'm just mad that they didn't take my "365 Plane Crashes" calendar idea.

Have you seen the Science of Sleep?

Shiny, those tourism stories were most excellent.

Keegs, Trey, I cannot be cute overloaded. Rule Kittennia!

Yes, I have. A fine flim. That's right, flim. I said it and then typed it.

I'm moving on to pitch the "365 Explosions" Page-A-Day, perhaps along with "365 Justifiable Homicides" (I've been told that "365 Cases of Cannibalism" is both too narrow and too morbid).


Mac Boyce wrote:

My personal favorite is when they demand we get fired for cooking their food incorrectly. When the GM of the restaurant comes back and tells us that, he sets the food down and turns his back to it.

*evil grin*

Did 6 years in a Bob Evans Restaurant as KP and grill cook. I despised people who tried to order things that were no longer on the menu as of the week prior.

Customer: But I want an apple dumpling!
My general response: And I want to be part of an intelligent species. Life sucks like that. You'll get your wish before I get mine.

And I know full well what I did to the food. Especially sausage gravy. It wasn't pretty to begin with, and what I did didn't help.

(But it amused me, so maybe it helped a little.)

Edit: And my personal favorite rant from those days: servers aka waitresses not understanding that the rest of us weren't nearly as well-paid as they were nor as well-treated, and then wondering why we didn't want to cater to their every whim. Because I'm paid an hourly wage and for all of management's claims otherwise, I'm not your equal! To you, I'm a slave! To me, you're a useless clueless bimbo!

Glad those days have passed. I'd probably slaughter the entire crew if I went back. Or just myself. Hard to say.

Dark Archive

My other personal favorite is when they tell me how to cook even though I have a Culinary Degree (which is almost worth the paper it's on)...

EDIT
That's why I never order white gravy no matter where I go ;) And the "useless clueless bimbo's" is what keep the industry going!


James Keegan wrote:

Yes, I have. A fine flim. That's right, flim. I said it and then typed it.

Flim was the cute way the Indian kids said the word film in City of Joy, a film where Patrick Swayze plays a doctor. Not one throat torn out in the whole flick.


Jal Dorak wrote:
Saern wrote:
Color spray deals radiant damage?

Okay, now my rant is on!

I am pretty sure there was a rule somewhere, I'll have to dig through my old 2nd Ed. PHB, that if your wizard didn't take Color Spray then you had to reduce their Intelligence to 3 because they are stupid. I think it was in Chapter 3 somewhere.

*vast majority of color spray rant snipped*

LEGENDARY.


The following story was on UK MSN news today. I invite someone to write a suitable reply. Saern?

'Obese' banned in school letters
Parents will be told if their child has a weight problem under Government plans but letters home must not contain the word "obese".
The Department of Health is urging all primary care trusts (PCTs) to automatically tell parents their child's height and weight as part of a national measuring programme.
But ministers do not want the word "obese" to be used in the letters home after research showed people find it "highly offensive" - instead, the heaviest children should be referred to as being "very overweight", they said.

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ericthecleric wrote:

The following story was on UK MSN news today. I invite someone to write a suitable reply. Saern?

'Obese' banned in school letters
Parents will be told if their child has a weight problem under Government plans but letters home must not contain the word "obese".
The Department of Health is urging all primary care trusts (PCTs) to automatically tell parents their child's height and weight as part of a national measuring programme.
But ministers do not want the word "obese" to be used in the letters home after research showed people find it "highly offensive" - instead, the heaviest children should be referred to as being "very overweight", they said.

They could be referred to as 'pleasantly plump.'

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ericthecleric wrote:

'Obese' banned in school letters

Parents will be told if their child has a weight problem under Government plans but letters home must not contain the word "obese".

Note to school district; replace the word 'obese' with 'Cartman-esque.'

'I'm not fat, I'm big-boned!' 'Yeah, *brontosaurus-boned!*'

I loathe how any criticism of a child is taking as fight-to-the-death words by their parents (who are, almost every time, *far* more concerned with what other people think of them than whether or not their kid is going to have his first heart attack at the age of 30). 'You can't call my Timmy morbidly obese because he can't fit in the school chairs, that's insulting me by saying I feed him junk...'

Wah. Try putting your child's health over your own insecurities!

There should be a test before one is allowed to be a parent. And not just the practical...


According to the same rules above you are all no longer allowed to call me stupid and bombastic. Now I'm to be referred to as, "entertainingly dim."

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The Jade wrote:
According to the same rules above you are all no longer allowed to call me stupid and bombastic. Now I'm to be referred to as, "entertainingly dim."

I was thinking "mildly droll."


ericthecleric wrote:
There should be a test before one is allowed to be a parent.

Perhaps (the infamous) THEY should put birth control drugs in the water. That way those who passed the test would get the antidote to allow them to conceive children. The freedom from unwanted pregnancy would then precipitate the self-genocide of skanks through rampant STDs. It's an all around win! The end result: UTOPIA! (...and a bunch of skeezy corpses, but hey, it worked out alright in "The Stand")


Hey, Skullblob, you're misquoting me! It's Set who you're quoting! :-)


Callous Jack wrote:
The Jade wrote:
According to the same rules above you are all no longer allowed to call me stupid and bombastic. Now I'm to be referred to as, "entertainingly dim."
I was thinking "mildly droll."

I'll take what I can get. ;)

Liberty's Edge

ericthecleric wrote:

The following story was on UK MSN news today. I invite someone to write a suitable reply. Saern?

'Obese' banned in school letters
Parents will be told if their child has a weight problem under Government plans but letters home must not contain the word "obese".
The Department of Health is urging all primary care trusts (PCTs) to automatically tell parents their child's height and weight as part of a national measuring programme.
But ministers do not want the word "obese" to be used in the letters home after research showed people find it "highly offensive" - instead, the heaviest children should be referred to as being "very overweight", they said.

Obese is an appropriate medical term. I see it in charts all the time.

On the flip side, I guess ticking parents off doesn't solve the problem.

Liberty's Edge

Maybe "The medical definition of obesity, according to the AMA (or the British counterpart) is .........such and so forth. Last check, your child weighed....... According to these figures, your child fits this profile."


Oh, yes, I've felt similarly for some time that regimented and universal birth control should be the norm, and one would have to get approval to actually come off of it (whatever the method of its implementation) so as to attempt conception.* But the problem is... who gets to choose?

Just off the top of my head, a close analogy is when one is trying to adopt a child. I'm adopted. Many years ago when my mother and father went before the adoption agency of the State of Indiana, they were currently in their 40s... a little old, but nothing too out of the ordinary, right? They were told by the pleasant, sympathetic, but brainless lady who worked at the agency that they were "too old" to adopt. Heartbroken, they left and abandoned much of their hope. That is until my father did a little of his own research and found out that there was absolutely no such law in this state.

EVER.

Thank god for inquiring minds.

Spoiler:
*Another problem is, considering that I've met my birthmother, I never would have been born!

A further rant based off that: Yes, I see you've adopted a child from Sri-Lankastanazerbajeeb. That's very nice. Ever think of LOOKING THE NEXT TOWN OVER?

Oh my god! There are kids that need to be adopted there, too!

Liberty's Edge

Check out Brave New World by Aldous Huxley,
then the movie Idiocracy.

You can't win.


crosswiredmind wrote:

The accusation that WotC is just "out to make money" by doing X, Y, or Z is getting really old really fast.

Of course they are. No company starts up thinking "we should just break even" or "let's take a loss". Companies that do not plan carefully and maximize their profits GO OUT OF BUSINESS!

Companies that try to turn a profit - and as large a profit as possible - are not evil unless they are actually doing harm and profiting from it, or they are unethical in their business dealings.

WotC is not causing harm and they are not in violation of any business code of ethics.

I cannot believe that gamers are actually complaining that they have to buy more books. My God people - just look at your shelves! I bet they are stacked with game books. I bet there at least 5 to 10 books that you know are coming out soon and you know that you MUST have them.

If you do not want to buy PHB2 or Martial Powers splat book then don't buy them, but don't blame WotC for trying to run a successful business - no one tries to run an unsuccessful one.

I will agree that a D&D player complaining about having to buy more books is puzzling and idiotic, but I do believe there is a more valid point beneath the (perhaps somewhat ineloquent) accusation that WotC is "just out to make money."

I think what other posters more often mean by that is that they are "out to make money"... at any cost. Of course the execs at WotC aren't sitting in dark robes around a table lit by candle light coming up with ways to destroy D&D. They are genuinely doing what they think will be both profitable and good for the game.

But many of us feel that they are wrong, and/or are going about it in the wrong way. There are other factors that must be taken into account when running a successful business, factors beyond the bottom line. How one interfaces with customers is a huge part of that. WotC has rolled several critical fumbles on their PR checks recently. They've taken a lot of actions that have angered a lot of people, explained them extremely poorly, and haven't really taken any steps to correct it. The whole thing then begins to reek of some marketing "professional" who has an over-valued degree from some MBA school, who has come in and "done some polls" and "focus groups" and now "knows what the customers want, and what will sell, SELL, SELL!" When said "professional" is just snorting his own crap and getting off on it.

Just because WotC is (understandably and sensically) trying to turn a profit doesn't excuse any action they take in pursuit of that goal. Their miserable handling of the rollover to 4e has thrown up a cloud of mistrust, suspicion, and disloyalty amongst the fan base. There are several things about 4e that I think I wouldn't have a problem with if they simply weren't associated with 4e and its (well deserved IMO) haze of negativity.

But you're right in that, in and of itself, the "accusation" that they are "just out to make money" is as absurd a complaint as having to buy more books.


Heathansson wrote:
ericthecleric wrote:

The following story was on UK MSN news today. I invite someone to write a suitable reply. Saern?

'Obese' banned in school letters
.....

Obese is an appropriate medical term. I see it in charts all the time.

On the flip side, I guess ticking parents off doesn't solve the problem.

I prefer "fat" ... it demonstrates that small and concise is often more effective.

;-)


Heathansson wrote:

Check out Brave New World by Aldous Huxley,

then the movie Idiocracy.

You can't win.

I liked Idiocracy in a sort of uncomfortable, often-shaking-head-in-hands way. It's the movie I watch when I'm fed up with people in general, just as Office Space is for work. Insightful Mike Judge.

Also, apologies to those I misquoted.


So I have not had a decent rant in a long time and I thought for sure that my Ranting days were over….Silly me!!!

So in my 30+ years of gaming experience I have discovered that there are 2 types of role players; I will call them Types A and B, not to be confused with the personalities of the same name of course:
Type A’s usually look at a setting they want to play in, come up with a character concept complete with motivations, desires and ultimate goals and then they look to the actual mechanical ruleset to come up with the character within the rules framework. If these people look at Character Classes and the like it is only in the cursory of inspections, and not in the linear, to get an idea of what CC would best fulfill their initial character concept whatever that may be.
Type B’s on the other hand look at the setting and then the rule set and then at the character classes and then create characters within the strictest and linear framework of the class playing to the obvious strengths…Let me say this again as I consider this part vaguely important….Type B’s create characters within the strictest and linear framework of the class playing to the obvious strengths. What this usually means is that Type B’s look at a character in the written material and then, based on the obvious class information come up with a concept that plays only to the obvious strengths of the written material as is.
Let us use some class examples from 3.5; Rouges get one hell of a Sneak Attack bonus as they progress and upon cursory inspection they also get class features which assist them in making the sneak attack happen while at the same time avoiding punishment for it. For a Type B this is the obvious strength and there is no other way to play the character (keep in mind this is from my experience). Type A’s on the other hand look past the obvious of this; to us (I include myself in the Type A’s) a Rouges skill set and class features can be used in many ways that have nothing to do with the act itself. Sneak Attack will do the obvious as we all know however a skilled Rouge could use Sneak Attack to help identify the potential for a sneak attack, whether a sneak attack was used after the fact, determine the skill level of the perpetrator of a sneak attack and so on. Type B on the other hand sees only that he/she can sneak up on someone and stab them in the liver.
Cleric: Type B’s look to the stats and play the class strictly as a conduit for a god or gods or pantheon while Type A’s look at the idea that since they get to choose from a domain this would also give them the ability to ID a fellow cleric from the same domain without too much difficulty. We Type A’s look at things concerning domains and gods differently then most and we also use spellcraft alongside our domains to help us be the wealth of knowledge concerning the clerical realms that a Type B would over look in favor of the obvious.
Now in the DMTools chatroom I tried to explain my play style and I thought I covered this rather well except for one person on Friday who thought that my style of play was crippling to the character I might play…Now either I did not explain my thoughts properly which is possible but not at the top of my list since every one on the boards with few exceptions of course are intelligent or this person is so heavily Type B that in that persons mind anything else is well outside the experiences of the person who made such an asinine comment. Now I would normally let something like this slide but this is not the first time I have heard this comment concerning my play style and it is also not the first board I have been vilified in for what I believe so I will spell it out so there is not one single thread of doubt…
Type B’s in my experience cripple their characters because they play them in linear progression and only look at the classes as a list of things they get as they move on or as a list of things ‘Their Guy” can do as time progresses. These people never ever see past the written into the possible and in my mind that is garbage; especially since I am a Type A player. In my opinion and experience the two types never mix well and neither will have fun. Notice here that I said ‘in my experience’ which also includes current experience. I realize that this may not be all of your experiences and some of you may have different experiences but I have not and therefore I am going on my experiences…Now if there are some out there who fit into the Type B class and feel offended by my saying that ‘in my opinion and as it fits my play style your play style is garbage.’…Too Freakin Bad…Get over it!!!! You have every right to say the same thing about my style of play as it relates to your style of play and you know what? You’d be right!! My style of play may not be for everyone and that is alright with me. You have the right to play this wonderful game in any way you so desire and I will defend that right…However don’t expect me to play in a game where I am the only Type A player surrounded by Type B’s; those who I feel cripple the game and their characters by the Linear Progressive nature of your play style period.
Now before all of you out there who might be frothing at the mouth decide to post a response telling me how stupid and asinine I am let me tell you one thing…I do not care.

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